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To think we are heading for a full 2 week national half term lockdown

594 replies

Midlifelights · 04/10/2020 13:15

DS’s school ramping up the preparation to teach on MS teams & making sure they can all use it & have the tech in place.

Teachers indicating that it’s going to be half term plus another couple of weeks after.

Given the rising numbers, it’s seems more likely that’s what’s coming - and maybe even a full lockdown this time & not the half arsed one we had before.

Aibu? I am worried as my kids really hated it last time but with so many new cases, it just seems the likely path

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SoUtterlyGroundDown · 05/10/2020 18:05

@FelicisNox

If it's the safest thing to do I'm all for it.

This middle of the road crap gets right on my nerves: pick a bloody side and stick to it.

Safest in terms of Covid you mean? What about all the issues caused by lockdown? Or does only Covid safety matter?
Cutesbabasmummy · 05/10/2020 18:06

@CheeryAlmond

Why are some people so desperate for harder, stricter lockdowns?

If you're happy to lock yourself away, no one is stopping you. The rest of us want to continue living our lives the best way we can at the moment.
Thinking of going back to sitting indoors day after day, with only a supermarket open for entertainment is absolutely soul destroying.
Thinking about seeing no family at Christmas is heartbreaking (let's face it, no one will stick to that rule.)

The public have already given up so much. There's nothing left to give. Patience is fraying. The local lockdowns are doing nothing.

This virus isn't going away. I saw an article today where it was said that only half the population will be getting the vaccine (when it arrives) and absolutely no under 18s; so awaiting that for a semblance of normal is pointless.
We have to learn to exist along side it. The same way we've done with other illnesses.

Flu kills, Norovirus kills, chickenpox kills... we live alongside these diseases.

We do have a chicken pox vaccine though. My 5 year old is vaccinated.
Flaxmeadow · 05/10/2020 18:08

I just don't think we can afford the economic damage

But if we don't lockdown, and the virus runs uncontrolled, then there would also be economic damage.

It's a rock and a hard place. All that can be done is a balance between lockdown and economy

BettyBoo246 · 05/10/2020 18:10

No. Why would there be. Deaths are not rising exponentially. They are currently under the 5 year average for this time of year.

Delta1 · 05/10/2020 18:12

I very much doubt it would be a blanket national lockdown.

noideaatallreally · 05/10/2020 18:17

For those of you who question my description of the domino of cases in schools - today Public Health Wales said there have been positive cases in 577 different schools. In other words over one third of all Welsh schools.

Someonetakemebackto91 · 05/10/2020 18:26

Hospital pulled my daughter out already.
I am not sure what will happen but we are now Indoors until Xmas I think. However my DD is extremely extremely vulnerable !

CheeseAndOnionIcecream · 05/10/2020 18:42

There probably will be one but I reckon it will be much longer than 2 weeks.

HesterShaw1 · 05/10/2020 18:52

Has anyone actually wondered whether all these kids in school just have colds? And are testing +ve because the virus is so prevalent now that absolutely stacks of people have or have had it.

These kids aren't ill.

Gemima14 · 05/10/2020 18:53

A further national lockdown will not happen. There will be catastrophic outcomes if the government did this. There is no need, the NHS is not overwhelmed, most of the new cases are either asymptomatic or with minimal symptoms. Half term is not the same in every county, how could they possibly choose a date? Those who think there will be a lockdown are either misinformed or desperate to be shut away again! I will eat my words IF it happens.

Yorkshiretolondon · 05/10/2020 19:00

Can’t see it myself. I just can’t imagine schools will close- the govt hated thinking teachers were having an easy life the first time around can’t see it happening again- might add teachers have been working all along on site and off and speaking personally this term so far has been manic to say the least- we are classroom teaching and online teaching....

MamaAffrika · 05/10/2020 19:01

Nope, DfE guidance to s hooks said they HAD to have remote learning in place by end of Sep. So lots of schools have been working hard to get it ready for then. Probably just feels like they know something you don't buy I guarantee that is not true and schools are not expecting 2 week lockdown.

NRatched · 05/10/2020 19:01

Has anyone actually wondered whether all these kids in school just have colds? And are testing +ve because the virus is so prevalent now that absolutely stacks of people have or have had it

I think theres a huge element of this to it. People presenting asymptomsatically with covid, would previously have not been included in the figures as they wouldn't test. But if they get a normal winter cold, some of the symptoms match, so they get a test and the covid is picked up where it would not be otherwise. If we are to believe that loads of people do not even get ill, and I am sure I have read figures as high as 80% who have no symptoms?

It would be quite interesting to get a load of random population testing done I think. To find out just how many have it (or have had it). I suspect the number of infected is, and always has been WAY higher than suspected. Which in turn would mean the death/serious infection rate was much lower than we feared, if it turns out more had it but were fine. So it would be a good thing to find this out.

Rosebel · 05/10/2020 19:06

I really hope it doesn't happen but cases are rising where I live and the school had their first case this week (not in either of my daughter's years)
I still really hope it doesn't happen because if it does I bet it will be weeks and weeks again.
I'm not sure the country would cope. Unemployment is rising and the economy is shot to pieces. People aren't going to stop seeing family again, especially if it drags over Christmas because it's too much.
We do need a new normal despite the fact it's a pretty rubbish normal. Shutting down and reopening might help the NHS (but I doubt it as cuts mean they struggle every winter) but as a whole we can't keep doing it. It's just not practical.

CheeryAlmond · 05/10/2020 19:10

@BunsyGirl

I hope you’re not right as my DS1 is due to take his 11 plus on 7 or 9 November. It has already been delayed by almost two months. God only knows what will happen if there is another lockdown. This situation is so shit for Year 6 children. We are having to apply for schools that we haven’t even seen in person due to open days being cancelled. I am so worried about my DS having to turn up at a school next September that he’s never visited.
Exactly the same as my DD in reception. She'd had so much time off from nursery, then was dropped off to a new building in September with adults she'd never met. Obviously no parents allowed in to settle the children.

It was heartbreaking.

CheeryAlmond · 05/10/2020 19:15

@Cutesbabasmummy

Before the vaccine (thats still relatively new I believe) we lived alongside chicken pox. The same with all other diseases.

Ladywinesalot · 05/10/2020 19:22

Certain areas in the U.K. ie: Midlands, have a 2 week half term in October in State schools.

That’s why the Govt are saying 2 weeks half term.

ArtieFufkinPolymerRecords · 05/10/2020 19:25

@clopper

It’s almost like some people on here are desperately wanting another lockdown. The virus is not going to go away. This is no way to live. Lots of people have been tested in big groups ( meat processing factories, students)and they are not aware that they have covid and have no symptoms. For most people this is not a serious disease and most recover. Some may have ‘long Covid’ but post viral fatigue symptoms are also linked to other viruses. It’s treated on here like if you get covid then it’s a death sentence! Some posters have truly lost perspective.

We are trashing the economy and the well being, particularly of young people, for nothing. What about the self employed and those working in the arts hospitality and leisure? They will not survive much more of this.

My elderly parents are heartily sick of not seeing anyone or going anywhere or doing any of the activities they enjoy. They cannot believe how fearful younger people are. Realistically they have limited time left. They want to truly live not just ‘stay alive’

I have lived through 3 redundancies ( my partners) which were far more stressful than worrying about a virus that may not even make me ill. I feel like that a lot of people urging this lockdown do so from privileged positions of high income, a nice house to work from home in, a garden, resources for children to learn at home, possibly a more secure public sector job ( like myself, I have been better off through lockdown)

Life feels joyless and pointless. We can’t celebrate life events or mourn the dead properly. We can’t be sociable with each other and now with masks smiles are hidden. I worry about young children’s development when all strangers are to be avoided and considered infectious! No one smiles much any more and if they do the smiles are hidden by masks. Humans are social animals.

The nhs may have been protected but many are now in huge waiting lists for operations which can affect the quality of life. Cancer diagnoses and treatments have been postponed. Primary health care is a shambles.

And yet.... so many on here want draconian rules to shut everything down again and use the police force and huge fines to control everyone. I despair. Hide away and ‘stay safe’ if you want but don’t impose it on the rest of us.

I realise that what I have said will be controversial to many but this is my opinion and what ever arguments you throw at me won’t change my mind. My extended family and most of my friends feel the same as me. Maybe we are the silent majority heartily sick of the whole lockdown and ever-changing rules. I am working in a school so I guess am at risk and I have some underlying conditions which put me at the higher end of the risk scale but I am not breaking any of the rules ( rule of 6 ) etc. But I am heartily sick of it all to be honest. I think the lockdown hysteria has gone to far. We should make our own risk assessments according to our own circumstances.

I feel exactly the same way as you.

I must admit I was able to enjoy some aspects of the previous lockdown - we have secure incomes as we are both public sector workers, a house with a garden and no young children to worry about home-schooling- so having extra time at home to enjoy the good weather in the garden and time every day to exercise was a bonus. However, I certainly don't want to return to the restrictions of before, which meant my child who is at university having to miss the summer term, and not being able to see family members for months on end.

Cutesbabasmummy · 05/10/2020 19:29

Yes we did. I was so poorly with it and my BIL is still pockmarked! Hopefully we will get a vaccine for Covid at some point Hmm

MadameBlobby · 05/10/2020 19:30

@HesterShaw1

Has anyone actually wondered whether all these kids in school just have colds? And are testing +ve because the virus is so prevalent now that absolutely stacks of people have or have had it.

These kids aren't ill.

There is also the confusion about what equals a case and whether it is just a positive test or requires more than that. That said given hospital cases are rising serious infections must be too.
AutumnleavesturntoGold · 05/10/2020 19:31

Shorter lock downs are may be what's needed, circuit breakers as they call them. Nothing long term. Just enough to keep repressing numbers.

ListeningQuietly · 05/10/2020 19:32

Shorter lock downs are may be what's needed, circuit breakers as they call them. Nothing long term. Just enough to keep repressing numbers.
Do elaborate on how it would work

Newgirls · 05/10/2020 19:32

Excess deaths at home, more child abuse, job losses, reduced cancer treatments - the cost of lockdown. Another lockdown would be tragic.

Flaxmeadow · 05/10/2020 19:36

Excess deaths at home, more child abuse, job losses, reduced cancer treatments - the cost of lockdown. Another lockdown would be tragic.

But this would happen without lockdown as well. The services would collapse. Either because they would be inundated with hundreds of thousands of sick people in a short space of time or because people in welfare services would be off sick or caring for someone off sick . Probably a mixture of both

tempnamechange98765 · 05/10/2020 19:39

noideaatallreally you didn't hear the Health Minister's statement today then? It's not spreading in Welsh schools. Look at the news.