To feel no more worried about getting COVID-19 than anything else?

[Afibtomyboy]

Just that

I’m not vulnerable. I’m fit and healthy.

It would be a serious challenge if I was very ill because I’m a single parent with no support structure. But that applies to any serious illness.

I’m no more worried about catching Covid 19 than anything else. And seeing as I am not particular worried about contracting anything in particular, it means I’m not worried about contracting Covid. It really doesn’t bother me.

In fact, with Covid one would get a great deal more support than, say, if I got pneumonia.

I’m one else completely lacking the FEAR??!

In the light of what be posted and the fact the elderly are at risk. I’m wondering why they are talking about mass vaccine for Covid yet we don’t do the same for flu. We usually only give flu vaccine to the vulnerable on NHS.
Why is that, since both viruses are passed on the same way?

@meow1989

Im asthmatic and had a rough time (3 a and e trips and countless anyibiotics and steroids) for the first time last year. I was careful at first then gradually less so, started worrying if I should be more worried iyswim.

Unfortunately, I have what is clearly a cold picked up from ds (and a negative covid test) currently and its knocked me out this week, back on steroids and antibiotics, feeling rough. I hate it as I'm not one to lean into illness, I like to be outside running after ds not convalescing. This is the thing with underlying conditions - people with them aren't all frail all the time, you might otherwise think they're fit an healthy and (relatively) young.

Its made me concerned again as if a cold does this, what would covid do? I have a 2 year old and I don't want to be too ill to watch him or need to be in hospital.

Me too. my DC's are vociferous about my coughing. So I went on to the covid app which advised me to get a test. Good stuff, I don't have a car so nearest walk is in Barking Essex. South East London to Barking on public transport with covid symptoms. What planet is this app on? 😡

My friend is a nurse and has had the virus from.working on covid-19 wards with inadequate PPE back in the beginning of the crisis. He is seeing more young people hospitalised with the virus and even deaths of young people. He himself had residual breathing problems that took months to clear. My 30 year old neice in law (paramedic) also had the virus and was left with residual breathlessness which tools months to clear. So I don't want this virus

Took

@Shooglywheel

In the light of what be posted and the fact the elderly are at risk. I’m wondering why they are talking about mass vaccine for Covid yet we don’t do the same for flu. We usually only give flu vaccine to the vulnerable on NHS. Why is that, since both viruses are passed on the same way?

Because covid is not like flu, and long covid is a serious risk to all age groups.

@RepeatSwan
What percentage of people are affected by long COVID? I understand it’s serious but just how many are you talking about? I’d quite like to see some references.

[quote Shooglywheel]@RepeatSwan
What percentage of people are affected by long COVID? I understand it’s serious but just how many are you talking about? I’d quite like to see some references.[/quote]
If you want to do a little reading there is loads online about it.

10% is the widely quoted figure, although Sweden just reported 15%.

Within that 10% (15%) is a wide range of effects, from a rash to (what appears to be) permanent heart damage.

It's an unquantifiable risk. I would not willingly expose myself to an unquantifiable risk, I really value my health. My preference is for all the people who are happy to catch it to go ahead and get it first!

Well good for you.

Was in my local pub Friday night. Just after I'd washed my hands a 20 something did a U-turn to wash her's too. She hadn't had any intention of doing so. I saw her rejoining her group of about 8 in the pub garden.

@Hyperfish101

Well good for you.

Well my real first preference would be a more stringent approach that protects everyone, but there are plenty on here who say we all have to 'crack on' - they can crack on and I will do my best to look after my family. What else can I do?

At least I am not spreading it.

What more can any of us do? It's the only thing I can do to protect my family and everyone else.

It's not my fault so many people don't take the virus seriously.

I am very frustrated at the moment, so many threads saying we need to pretend the virus doesn't harm people. I believe it does harm people and am behaving accordingly.

AntiHop

Statistically, I know the chances of me dying of covid or becoming long term unwell from covid are very slim

Well, if you count a 10% risk of long Covid as “very slim”.

I’m not living in fear. I don’t want to get it though, and imo it’s silly to be no more scared than anything else. Fit, healthy people have been in ITU which is traumatic in itself. Yes, you’d be just as scared to get cancer, but atm you’re likely to get covid without precautions. Also, anyone that’s already experienced something that brings chronic fatigue type issues knows that’s worth avoiding.

Other people are more at risk than you and are understandably scared. I find it bonkers the amount of people who don’t quite seem to get it. Not all our children are perfectly healthy with wonderful strong organs working at their best either.

I think this idea that you won't be harmed by it is a bit more complex than you think. Yes you're unlikely to die or be seriously ill But I worry about long Covid and having post viral fatigue for months. I've had something like that before and it is so miserable.

The more we know about it the more we realise we don't know. Some people are genetically susceptible as they can't make interferon proteins that are the first line of an immune response. Are you one of these? What about the healthy fit people who have it and then developed heart problems? What is happening there?

So I don't think you need to be terrified but the fact is there's much that is not known.

Oh, with you al the way.

I'm terrified of anything that flies, vaguely uneasy about spiders but Covid-19? Nah, I really couldn't give a shit from a 'me catching it' point of view.

@RegularHumanBartender

You getting covid is not the concern, the concern is you passing it to a vulnerable person

Anyone could pass on a virus to a vulnerable person at any time. Why is this one special?

Because this virus is something you are very aware of - you would be making the conscious decision to potentially pass it on to a vulnerable person

No one in their tight mind wouldn't expose a vulnerable person to a virus, and this is exactly the same.

Yes I'm not worried at all. I stick to the rules and am careful to ensure I don't pass it on to more vulnerable members of society but am not worried personally about getting it. I know it can be awful and can lead to complications but I suppose I have a fairly 'what will be will be' mindset.

I'd like to know what the risks of Long Covid is, compared to generic post viral fatigue. My teacher DH had a bout of glandular fever, likely picked up from a minimally symptomatic or asymptomatic secondary pupil. It wiped him out for well over a year - after the initial symptoms subsided, he suffered extreme fatigue, hair loss (followed by horrible folliculitis), cognitive fog, painful limbs etc. Pretty textbook post viral syndrome. He couldn't return to fulltime work for years, and only really recovered after extensive vitamin supplementation with a highly experienced doctor. The post viral syndrome support community is huge, because its very common, sadly. It can follow any virus.

Anyone in the UK who's had Covid got it less than a year ago - it's horrible, depressing but unsurprising that a proportion of them continue to suffer. I wonder if post viral syndrome has simply been renamed??

Yanbu. It's funny, I saw a mention of swine flu the other day, and I vaguely remember being offered a vaccine because I was pregnant in 2009, I don't remember much else. So I was shocked when I googled and the upper estimate for swine flu cases is 1.4 billion worldwide. It was a pandemic, there was one bbc news article predicting 65,000 deaths in the UK.. and I barely remember it. No lockdown, no masks.

I think it's perfectly possible to not be concerned or scared for yourself but to not want to pass it on to anyone vulnerable. I didn't read the OP as saying she doesn't care about passing it on to her vulnerable relative or that she wasn't going to follow the rules just that she's not living in fear of the virus on a personal level.

I'm the same. I'm not scared for me. I'd be scared if my grandma caught it which is the reason why I follow the rules and do my bit but I'm not scared about me personally.

It's possible to be both.

@Shooglywheel

This might help.

Shoogly - do you have a table with data for the UK, and not Sweden (whose population is much less likely to be overweight and whose life expectancy is higher than in UK)?

@BeakyWinder

Yanbu. It's funny, I saw a mention of swine flu the other day, and I vaguely remember being offered a vaccine because I was pregnant in 2009, I don't remember much else. So I was shocked when I googled and the upper estimate for swine flu cases is 1.4 billion worldwide. It was a pandemic, there was one bbc news article predicting 65,000 deaths in the UK.. and I barely remember it. No lockdown, no masks.

Yes, but we have had 65k+ excess deaths from covid, so the comparison is meaningless.

Without lockdown we would have had far more.

@Monty27

Was in my local pub Friday night. Just after I'd washed my hands a 20 something did a U-turn to wash her's too. She hadn't had any intention of doing so. I saw her rejoining her group of about 8 in the pub garden.

Gosh you’re a mind reader!

@RepeatSwan

What are you doing to “protect” your family?

It's illogical how frightened people are. If the same very anxious people applied their risk analysis to driving / doing DIY at home / cooking and eating meat / flying / giving birth etc then they'd probably do nothing at all with their lives and go nowhere

@RepeatSwan with Covid not from Covid. The huge majority were over 85 years old with other Comorbidites.