to think that karma won yesterday

[redlockscelt]

This will no doubt out me if you know me but never mind.

We live in one of a pair of farm cottages down a small lane on the way to another village.
Our lovely neighbours shared their ring doorbell footage with me yesterday as we were the targets of the theft. We'd had a large, awkward, cumbersome package delivery which was (as instructed) left in the side yard and was visible from the lane. Two men, older and not that fit, came passed in a car and stopped to look at the package and with great difficultly manhandled it into the back of the car, having to shove the seats down and go to some effort putting it in.

If only we had access to cctv at the other end to see their faces when they opened their spoils to discover that they had approx 40kg of hay

Annoying for us of course but they got what they deserved I reckon.

I saw an interview once with Linda Robson saying she'd been carrying a black bag full of dog shit out once and had it stolen from her... I think she got a black eye for it though but it was consoling that it was literally shit!

Do you think they actually knew it was hay? Would people actually want to nick hay?! For their horse maybe

@Bagadverts

If they put that much effort in to proper work we’d all be much better off. How much does 40kg of hay cost?

I thought you were going to say how much does 40kg of hay weigh 🤐😂

The situation is not helped by people who leave out stuff for people to help themselves to rather than offer it online.

There is a woman who goes around specifically pinching stuff from gardens, often shown on one of the groups taking someone's bags of compost or whatever she can steal.

My dad had a car stolen in the 80s, he has always bought cheap old bangers with a years tax (until the change) and a years mot.
Because they were cheap they often wernt worth getting repaired.
He had an old seat malaga with a bad head gasket and the thief broke down on the motorway.
Karma!

I do hope the thieves are picking scratchy bits of hay off uncomfortable places every time they sit in the car.

H’mmm

I have an old tv to dispose of

If I find an imposing box and some labels
And leave it under my doormat , will someone nick it so you think,

Do you live in a small Welsh village - and is the TV very old indeed? At least it will prevent the thieves from being able to perpetrate any online scams whilst they're watching a bit of telly

Our neighbour had some new fence panels delivered yesterday, the delivery driver left them at the front because you know, covid, so me (arthritic) and neighbour (v old) slowly manhandled them round the back. As I was coming back from the first drop, a van had pulled up and 2 guys had hold of 2 panels just about to load into their van. I asked if I could help them and they said they presumed it was rubbish as it had been left outside. It was quite obviously new, and they quite obviously intended to take the rest, I gave them a right bollocking, think I scared my neighbour. Cheeky fuckers

I know my story wasn't about karma lol, just that there's thieving bastards everywhere

Brilliant

The nun on the bike one is the best of all. The thought of them finding filthy nappies, dog poo or sick is hilarious, but at least they'll instantly know that they haven't struck lucky - and probably chuck them on some unsuspecting person's property for them to clean up

However, maybe the wee-whisky thieves have already imbibed on a good quantity of average quality stuff and have been saving the ill-gotten 'really good stuff' for last. No point sipping when you have liquid gold like that - gotta take a really good swig

Actually, angry bees come a very close second!

I wonder whether these thieves are stoic and treat it as par for the course when they discover that today's booty wasn't quite as lucrative as it could have been. I rather think that some of them are so entitled that they actually feel angry at their victims for having 'played a nasty trick on them' - and not doing the decent thing by ensuring that they only leave boxes or bags on public display containing new iPhones or Tiffany jewellery.

I've mentioned this previously, but I remember reading once (in the US, iirc) of a burglar who broke into somebody's garage and then got trapped/locked in and unable to escape. He sued the householders for 'illegal imprisonment' and actually won compensation.

I heard of a case in the US when a burglar stole a safe and found it full of CSA images. He took a 10 year prison sentence so he could shop the owner to the police.

I asked if I could help them and they said they presumed it was rubbish as it had been left outside. It was quite obviously new, and they quite obviously intended to take the rest, I gave them a right bollocking, think I scared my neighbour. Cheeky fuckers

We have regular scrap men who pull that excuse - claiming they assume that any metal visible from the end of your property is scrap left out for them to kindly rid you of. Along with rusty, bent old ironing board stands and wrecked old toys, they've also taken a child's brand new double garden swing and grab any abandoned Asda trolleys that lazy people have walked home with, before Asda's own collectors can get there.

I heard of a case in the US when a burglar stole a safe and found it full of CSA images. He took a 10 year prison sentence so he could shop the owner to the police.

Wow - that certainly leaves you with several mixed feelings.

That’s bloody expensive hay!
That’d cost me less than £10 and only about £12.50 at the most expensive place I know.
Is it gold plated?

That sounds like an urban myth, JohnMcCain.

@JukeBoxHero that man is my new secret crush!

It's real Flounce. There's a podcast that covered the case, and had an interview with the thief if I remember correctly.

Oh I love stories like this! Shame shame!

I've mentioned this previously, but I remember reading once (in the US, iirc) of a burglar who broke into somebody's garage and then got trapped/locked in and unable to escape. He sued the householders for 'illegal imprisonment' and actually won compensation.

You do recall correctly. He was stuck in the garage for 8 days with nothing but a case of Pepsi Cola and a bag of dry dog food to subsist on. I still don't think he deserved compensation.

Here are the details, along with those of several similar cases.

Crazy Stories of Homeowners Getting Sued

MissConductUS

Thanks very much for that - that's a really interesting read.

I don't doubt that his circumstances were traumatic, but I don't see any way how it was anybody's fault except his own. Compensation is for when you suffer because of somebody else's actions or negligence, so them giving you money goes to restorign the balance between you both. As he was botht he sufferer and the one at fault, he should have sued himself for his own stupidity negligence. Then again, he probably could have done that and won a fortune from his own insurer.

@JukeBoxHero

Old work colleague of DH's had his laptop bag stolen by a lad on a bike as he walked to work. Unbeknown to the lad it only contained his cheese and onion sandwiches for lunch as he'd left the actual laptop in the office. A few minutes later the boy cycled back past and threw the bag, still containing his lunch, back at him 😂

That made me laugh out loud, @JukeBoxHero!

It's also interesting, in the case of the burglar finding the abuse images, to realise that some people committing crimes must have a hierarchy of crime. Not that I'm suggesting most people wouldn't think perpetrating/participating in child abuse was worse than burglary of course, but this man obviously had set his own line of acceptability whereby he believed that, whilst paedophilia and child abuse is not acceptable behaviour, burglary is. You hear of it in prisons as well, where murderers and armed robbers will take it upon themselves to violently attack and persecute other prisoners who are child abusers, presumably because their crimes were really abhorrent.

@WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll - You're quite welcome, I found it a good read as well.

There is a legal doctrine called "assumption of risk" with the classic example being if you go to a baseball game and then get hit by a stray ball, you can't sue the team or the batter. You assumed the risk by attending the game, knowing that it's a danger. I'm surprised the same principle didn't win in the burglar's case.

With regard to the burglar winning compensation -

We had some forklift truck training a while ago and the trainer was going through H&S stuff with us and told us about a youth who had broken in to a factory, found the keys and stolen a forklift truck. Apparently he crashed it and seriously injured himself and then successfully claimed compensation from the company he’d broken into and stolen the forklift from.

I was amazed it was true, but he showed us all the newspaper reports.

I once ordered a worm compost bin. The worms are sent separately from the bin and some toerag knicked them off the doorstep. The replacement had Wiggly Wigglers or some such printed on it in huge letters and a sticker telling you it was live worms so the thief must have known what they were taking!