After today's accouncement - planning to ask for remote learning

[Howslifenow]

After these new lockdown restrictions and increase in cases, is anyone planning to not send their kids to schools and ask for remote learning.
After today's announcement I am thinking of doing this.
YIBU - To do this
YANBU - It's fine if works for you and the school

Dear god no, I'll be shoving them through the door as long as the school lets me keep doing it. It's better for their mental health and for their education that they're in school, and it's better for my mental health and our financial survival if we are both able to work. I am 'clinically vulnerable' but it's a risk I'm willing to take for them to be happy and getting an education.

What would be great though is if parents could properly socially distance during the school run - stop running up to me and dc, stop congregating at the school gate so no one can get in or out, etc. The school sent out about 3 emails about this last week, but no one seems to be paying any attention.

Sorry but your child should be attending school all the time they are open and they don't have a medical reason to shield. Just my opinion of course . All of the measures today (which i believe is the pre amble to stricter ones ) is to protect our childrens education. Covid isn't going anywhere. You could be talking about keeping your child at home for months / years potentially.

Look, as I understand it, the whole point of wanting everyone to bloody well take the social distancing/limiting social contact seriously is so that our children can stay in school as much as possible. (That and not overwhelming the NHS so that people don't die when they could have been made well again)

People are being selfish and going out and about way more than they need to. A limited social life shouldn't cause mental anguish to the average person who isn't utterly self-centred and in need of constant attention from others.

We need to keep the economy going in some form to be able to pay for healthcare and education. Sadly this means we need to deal with those who "hate wearing a mask" and won't think of others.

I'm sick of snowflakes in the late teens to 30 something bracket who can't survive without a hectic social life. The students moaning that their Uni experience is being ruined. Just shows what 18-21 year olds these days actually want from the Uni experience and that seems to be 3 years of partying rather than gaining a useful degree and making good friends (still in touch with mine after 30 years).

We may well end up with remote learning again because of people''s lack of social conscience. "I'll decide for myself what risk level I'm comfortable with and socialise accordingly" is just announcing that you're thick as mince because you can't understand that your social contacts potentially become everyone else you meet up with's social contacts as far as transmitting Covid is concerned.

Rant over !

Just out of interest are you going to stop all outside visitors to your home, not visit friends or family with your child at their home inside, never take your child to a restaurant, pub, venue, museum etc or on holiday. Because surely that's what you would be doing if you are so worried about Covid and them attending school that you want to take them out of education and teach them remotely at home ?????

Are you people not worried about around 5000 cases today.

You do realise how rare it is for children to actually catch Covid, right?

And your “socialisation pods” with other remote learners are not a match for what a school can provide. You are doing your children a disservice because you’re anxious.

@changing35

Just out of interest are you going to stop all outside visitors to your home, not visit friends or family with your child at their home inside, never take your child to a restaurant, pub, venue, museum etc or on holiday. Because surely that's what you would be doing if you are so worried about Covid and them attending school that you want to take them out of education and teach them remotely at home ?????

Er, none of those things are a fraction as risky as school.

For an average family following rules and guidabce, school is far and away the most risky thing they do.

You do realise how rare it is for children to actually catch Covid, right?

This is false, children catch just the same. Antibody studies prove this.

It's a persistent myth.

The previous lockdown showed that home learning even when delivered effectively by the school is still hit and miss dependent on the child’s home life, the child and sometimes things out of the parents control. In your circumstances you may ask and have all the resources so approval granted, another parent then asks but would need much more teacher driven material but the head cannot say no as they said yes to you. If I was a head I would be reluctant.

@Howslifenow

By remote learning - i just need indication of the work they will be doing for a week. I can work with my kid on these activities in my spare time along with DH.

So you don’t actually want your kids to be properly educated then?

Infections are rising in age groups from 2 to 11. So definitely they catch it. I don't know how many schools have got cases but in my area around 10 % of schools have at least 1 case.

@RepeatSwan agree, if Covid gets into my house it’s because it’s come home from school. I want my kid to stay in school, for schools to stay open, I am taking no other risks. I personally think that schools will close at some point but until then all children unless vulnerable or have vulnerable parents or care givers should attend.

As people have said, you can always ask.

Our school is doing remote working for the one or two who are off awaiting results of tests in the family.

Other than that the teachers are at work early, don't have their own rooms any more so it's harder for them to sit quietly to get set work done. That's because they are moving around rather than having the kids moving. Which means everything has to be carried around with them from class to class. They're not allowed to take books home to mark unless the books have sat in quarantine for 24 hours - and then only if absolutely necessary, to try to keep Covid out of their homes.

We now have three lunch times and three different breaks - two years on each lunch and break so they don't mix. That has to be covered by teachers and staff - even the cleaners are stepping in to cover break times so the teachers can get to classes on time.

One of our teachers emailed me on Sunday following up on some work DS has done. I had my feet up, they were working.

If you want to home school, home school. Otherwise don't expect too much from a teacher - your child has a school place and should be in it.

BTW my DS has a heart condition and his consultant has said school is more important that the remote possibility of Covid causing him problems. He's at school and so much happier than the final month of lockdown. We never really noticed how much he was feeling isolated until he went back - it's like a different child in the house. I'll try my hardest to ensure he stays at school for his mental health's sake if nothing else.

I am a governor of a primary school. We received guidance yesterday from our local authority that has made it very clear that remote learning is only for those who are absent due to isolating (having been in contact with someone who is positivie) or in rare circumstances if the child has to shield.

The only option for you if you were in our authority would be EHE - Elective Home Educating - which means you remove your child from the school roll and educate them at home. The school would no longer have any responsibility towards your child so would not provide any guidance or curriculum information.

@Howslifenow

Are you people not worried about around 5000 cases today. If people are allowed an option to WFH, why fine parents who want to keep kids at home. Even keeping them on the roll is enough for me as I can teach her for some time.

Because you are legally obliged to send your children to school or to formally take them out and home educate yourself.

The relationship between an individual and their employer is governed by the employment contract. The parties are free to negotiate whatever arrangements suit them best.

It sounds like the system where you live has been designed to accommodate concurrent remote and in-school learning.

What you're asking for wouldn't be possible in many parts of the UK. Schools barely have enough staff to teach the children who are in school, and many teachers are working 8-6 in school with 20 minutes for lunch/ bathroom visits. There simply wouldn't be time in the day for teachers to teach and supervise their class all day, set up beforehand and attend meetings and training after school, and teach remotely.

No child unless shedding or has a shielding household member should be doing remote learning. They should all be in school where their parents are NOT there. They needs far more than just the lessons. Being involved with other kids and adults is critical to development, confidence and being a decent contributing member of society as an adult. No one should be denying their child this and fines should be absolute issued if a child is not attending

Why should school provide remote learning for some at the expense of others?

Remote learning is already offered at our school as an option. We have number of children with compromised immune systems who haven’t returned since March. Definitely not unreasonable to request it, but without further government guidance the school has no obligation to accept.

One other thread - Rise in young women being admitted to hospital. One of the reasons s is caring responsibilities and schools. Shouldn't we try to prevent this instead of just accepting. Even if 30 % of us do remote learning school congestion will be removed. As PP have mentioned hybrid model is active in other countries.

If your child is vulnerable or a member of your household is, I would ask as I really feel people in this circumstance should be exempt from fines or being forced to de-register.

If it’s because your anxious OP, I’m sorry but I think you’re being very U. Teachers can’t cater to specific children because their parents have worries. We are all worried. I have crippling anxiety disorder and I am absolutely petrified of the day one of my DCs come home with a high temp or cough. But it’s not fair on them to let my anxieties impact them in such a huge way, that would be detrimental to their mental health and well-being. Children have been through enough this year, they need the normality, stimulation and social interactions they get at school.

[quote Southernsoftie76]@RepeatSwan agree, if Covid gets into my house it’s because it’s come home from school. I want my kid to stay in school, for schools to stay open, I am taking no other risks. I personally think that schools will close at some point but until then all children unless vulnerable or have vulnerable parents or care givers should attend.[/quote]
How do you work that out? The only way you can be sure of that is if nobody leaves your house except to go to school, they travel there in a 100% protective suit with own oxygen supply and have zero contact with anybody outside of school and if nobody at all (not even food deliveries) come to your house and nothing is brought in from outside except from school.

What you are saying is ridiculous.

If my child was immune compromised maybe. If I was living with my 80 year old mother maybe. Otherwise definitely not. Children learn through their peers. The virus was most likely around from December. There is no risk to healthy children.

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/school-education-coronavirus-lockdown-cases-18978048

275 schools in Wales with Covid case

Depends what’s right for each family, a second time around I imagine you would know.

I took my kids out of school early due to Covid. However by the end of it (6months) I could see my youngest was negatively affected so would send them as long as school is open as I’m happy to put my wants below theirs, but only because I’m happy to do so, others may not and that’s fine too.

Did you read the other thread? Everyone admitted to hospital is tested even if they present with injuries from a car accident. If they test positive for Covid the injuries are treated in the Covid ward to prevent spread. Think of the amount of 30 - 40 years olds who go hospitals every day. Of course a percentage will have a positive test.