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Hidden account in my name

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Hungryforchocolate · 20/09/2020 20:23

Ok this is potentially a long one and I am torn with a moral dilemma by letting bygones be bygones or claiming what is apparently mine.

When I was younger my parents set up a bank account with a high street provider which was all christmas money/birthday money/communion money etc. You get the drift - all money went into it. It was a children's savings account in the name of one parent. My mum.

My parents divorced when I was 10 and it was messy. My mum hid accounts including this and had my Dad cash in an endowment policy he was paying with the aim of being handed to me in later life. It would have matured cric. £90k and mum had him cash it in for £1600. There was a second one for my younger brother which also was forced to be cashed in at £1200. The relationship with my mum has never been great and she has always been money orientated. When I got a Saturday job at 15 earning £30 a week in the local hair dressers, she took 50% so £15. When I got my EMA once attending colleague she again took 50% - this was never put into the house for food so I found myself either buying my own or going round relatives/friends for dinner most nights. I moved out at 17 and been private renting since. I would occasional pop back for her birthday/mothers weekend etc as she was still and is still my mum

My mum sold the family home last year and I put on a postal redirection on the house to forward post in mine and my brothers name to my new address many miles away from her. My younger brother at the time was travelling around Asia so my address was his base.

I received a letter from the bank address to MUM RE Hungryforchocolate and also another MUM RE Hungryforchocolate's brother. I opened both as both my brother and I share initials and it didn't have Miss/Master salutation. The letter was regarding a children's passbook account which apparently was going down in interest with the same bank we used to go in with our birthday money to. I have never had an idea about these accounts were still open and when checking their website, it said it should have been transferred to the child at 18. That was approx 10 years ago for me so I visited said bank who wouldn't tell me much about the account because it was not apparently mine yet has my name all over it but the lady informed me, my brother and dad apparently both of us children are mental incapable hence they have never 'matured'. She did say the amount in there was 'potentially life changing' and confirmed they had been open since each of our respective birth years. Probably said too much but it was enough to confirm this was the same account we once deposited money into when younger.

Now my dilemma.

My Dad wants me to proceed to freeze the account in my name, my brother to do the same with his, and subsequently have the funds transferred over. He is being very persistent on the matter which hasn't help as my DP and I have been looking to buy a home. My brother has said we will put the funds from both accounts together and split 50/50 as one account may have more than the other. We don't know the balance but the life changing comment was made by the bank as I said in there the drama/stress this will cause is not worth it if its say £1.00

My Mum in the politest way will absolutely flip at me. She already sends me very distressing texts telling me she wishes I would die, wished she never had me, how nasty I am for minor things like not bringing her a second birthday card two weeks after her actual birthday where she got one because I was the 'only' person not to bring one to her party. She is hard work that I am very much LC as much as I can be due to her moods and the abuse I receive when things are not exactly as she pictures. She will also attempt to turn her side of the family against me and the pain this will cause my grandmother will be heartbreaking as my mum will make her choose between daughter or granddaughter.

I have confided in another family member who is very familiar with my Mums moods and treatment towards me but also the divorce drama of hiding money away. They have said whilst the money is in an account in my name, it does not mean it is money for me and could be a way of my mum hiding money away from her new partner. He is just as bad as her to be honest so a match made in heaven but doesn't make what she has done/doing right.

Do I:

  • Ignore the issue altogether. Whilst the account is RE me and apparently I lack mental capacity (which I don't!!!) it has nothing to do with me. [YABU]
  • Freeze the accounts to the source of the funds can be established/evidenced in statements to show it was money from when we were children. [YANBU]

The way it is going, which ever way I go, I will potentially get merry hell from one parents towards me. Dad will calm down after a while as he will respect my decision in time but my DP believes my mum will need to be completely blocked/NC as she will never forgive, understand, forget or be calm.

If I go to freeze the accounts route, what an earth do I need to do or how do I do this? I have all the court documents from their divorce where she said these accounts 'no longer exist'

ARGH.

OP posts:
CiderJolly · 20/09/2020 21:07

Morally the money is yours that was there when you turned 18- what she put in afterwards is hers isn’t it?

Despite her crappy behaviour I wouldn’t take her money even if it is in your name. Just take what is morally yours and no more.

Staffy1 · 20/09/2020 21:10

Freeze if you are able, but is that possible if the bank told you the accounts weren't actually yours?

Thehop · 20/09/2020 21:12

@Twigaletta is absolutely right.

Get a solicitor to sort this quick before your mother moves the funds. The money is yours. She cost you your inheritance from your dad don’t let her take this too.

I also think splitting both with your brother is the right thing to do.

RuggerHug · 20/09/2020 21:14

Get a solicitor on it first thing tomorrow, if that relative you spoke to lets your 'D'M know you're aware of the account now she will probably empty it/move it. Move quickly.

Star81 · 20/09/2020 21:15

You need to claim the money and split it.

Why should you not claim what’s rightfully yours.

If a statement shows its recent money then return that amount to her and keep what was put in before you were 18.

SonjaMorgan · 20/09/2020 21:19

OP my mother previously told me she wishes she never had me. For years I tried to fit in and make a relationship work with her. A few years ago something clicked, she is the problem and not me. I have never been happier not having to live up to some expectations that are constantly changing and I can never meet.

Get some legal advice, try to get the money and go NC.

SunshineCake · 20/09/2020 21:21

What is that person on about. So stupid. It is your money. It was opened for you as a child. Do what is necessary to get it.

Interesting your brother has decreed it should be split in half since his will be less.

billybagpuss · 20/09/2020 21:22

This is your money, you need to get the account frozen and ask the bank what they need to release it

notapizzaeater · 20/09/2020 21:24

It's your money, I'd find out what I'd need to do to get it and get it.

Choccylips · 20/09/2020 21:27

You sound like you and your brother need and deserve this money I think you should go 50/50 with him. Forget your mother she as led you an awful life you don't need that. Fight for this now and enjoy the rest of your life Good Luck.

Ravenesque · 20/09/2020 21:27

Freeze the accounts. The money is yours and your brothers. If your mother flips out then so be it. She's the one hiding this from you, she's the one in the wrong.

Freeze them straight away. Do it tomorrow.

Mumsgirls · 20/09/2020 21:28

I used to work for a bank. An ‘ in re’ account was one held be an adult in respect of a child. This was to identify who the money was for. However legally the adult controlled and in effect owned the money. You will not be able to either take the money or freeze the account. This was an old and unfair way of handling a child’s money and it caused massive problems when children lost out on shares when Building Societies became companies. The money, if for you should have been held in trust.
Please do not get your hopes up and sorry to bear bad news.
Also please posters should not be advising unless sure of facts, you have been given wrong information on this post, even if well meant.

HaggieMaggie · 20/09/2020 21:28

Are you genuinely likely to have a “life changing” sum of money saved from birthdays, Christmas and religious gifts? Where has the rest of the money come from?

AllTheCakes · 20/09/2020 21:29

You need to get to the bottom of it. Freeze and work out where the money came from.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 20/09/2020 21:30

@ToastyCrumpet

It’s your money. Freeze the accounts. You’re well rid of your mother.
I would add to this to follow your brother's suggestion to combine and share after paying any legal fees you might incur.
SisyphusAndTheRockOfUntidiness · 20/09/2020 21:32

Don't feel guilty about it. Your mother has essentially deprived you / attempted to deprive you of money that was intended for you & your brother. Get the proof together, split both accounts with your brother. It sounds like whatever happpens, your mother will never be happy with you, nor act reasonably towards you. You could give her all the money or be canonised & she'd probably still find a reason to be horrible.

RubyViolet · 20/09/2020 21:33

Why would birthday and Christmas money add up to a life changing amount??? I think the money is your Mum’s which she has hidden from past and current partners.
My hunch being based on that this is exactly what my Mum did when she split from her partner.
Secret account for a reason.

Thisisnotnormal69 · 20/09/2020 21:33

Try to get it frozen as quickly as possible before your mother gets wind. You have nothing to feel guilty about here, what an evil woman

Mmsnet101 · 20/09/2020 21:33

Take the money and freeze your mother. Once you have access to the account you should be able to tell what is actually your money and what is your mum avoiding tax etc. Then decide what to do.

She wouldn't hesitate to do the same to you. She is emotionally abusive and this is a good and very valid reason to break all contact.

Move on with your life with what is rightfully yours.

Eddielzzard · 20/09/2020 21:34

Get it frozen, go NC with your mum.

DressingGownofDoom · 20/09/2020 21:34

Yeah you need a solicitor.

mellicauli · 20/09/2020 21:38

Yes, unfreeze the money. It’s yours. Don’t worry too much about her. She does about you, after all.

This is actually theft. She has stolen your money by deception. But she hasn’t spent it..so what is her motivation ? There’s another story in there.

RandomMess · 20/09/2020 21:48

Freeze the money and then get a list of all transactions so you can work out if she has put "her" money in it - presumably fraudulently!

At least you can then decide how much is yours/brothers hers...

Does she claim benefits? Has she done this to hide her capital so she could live if the tax payer?

amymel2016 · 20/09/2020 21:49

Agree with everyone else OP, get some legal advice tomorrow. Call the bank and see what your options are.

LUZON · 20/09/2020 21:49

@Mumsgirls

I used to work for a bank. An ‘ in re’ account was one held be an adult in respect of a child. This was to identify who the money was for. However legally the adult controlled and in effect owned the money. You will not be able to either take the money or freeze the account. This was an old and unfair way of handling a child’s money and it caused massive problems when children lost out on shares when Building Societies became companies. The money, if for you should have been held in trust. Please do not get your hopes up and sorry to bear bad news. Also please posters should not be advising unless sure of facts, you have been given wrong information on this post, even if well meant.
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