WAP

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To think this song is fucking horrid???

DP apparently thinks I'm a prude because I'm banging on about it.

And all the people posting videos copying it is making me 🤢

I mean, A lot of the world (men) already thinks of women as just tits and a vagina, this shit does not help.

He thinks I'm a prude
I think I'm a grown woman and we're not into that shit

What do you think

@Edel2019 honestly it sounds so bland to me, it never seems to get going, but as you can see from my username I'm happiest when some bloke with long hair and too much eyeliner is screaming over down tuned guitars and double kick drums.

I just listened to it without watching the video and tbh while I like the video its much better just audio. There is so much going on in the video but the song is really paired back with the focus on the vocals and the video totally detracts from that.

@TheNewLook because who there is no wrong way to do feminism... Feminism allows women to express themselves in any way they see fit. 8v so start telling women they are 'doing feminism wrong' you start to sound pretty patriarchal... I would have thought this was obvious.

*if you

I have listened to it once and even then I watched half of the video. Watched because of all the surrounding hype. We listen to our own music in the car. The song is rubbish.

DD told me her computer science teacher asked what WAP stands for (wireless application protocol) and she was the only one in the class to laugh.

I like the song and its not fir children

I find it funny how "WAP" offends people.

Is it because it's 2 female rappers singing this?

Would you say the same if it was male rappers??

Because male rappers have been singing and rapping about these kind of things for years.

Those who are offended by this, I believe haven't listened to bashment/Dancehall genre. Never listened to music by vybz kartel/popcaan/Shenseea/Vanessa bling.

Deary me could you imagine the reaction they'd have. 🤣🤦🏽‍♀️🤣🤦🏽‍♀️

It’s shit

i’m sorry but you are being really unreasonable you are being a karan
this song is about female empowerment though the way of a women’s pleasure’ male rappers always sing about them having sex and their pleasure and finally a women raps about it so your are being sexist aswell
if you have a problem with the song then don’t fucking listen to it and it’s abit of an exaggeration with it making you feel sick because as if you haven’t had sex and done sexual things with your partner or masterbaited and you enjoy that so then why shouldn’t a rapper make a song about female pleaser and empowerment

*don't tell other women that they're 'doing feminism wrong'

Why?*

Because it's not some club that has rules that must be obeyed. Feminism on MN is totally fucked. It's full of mean girls who think they can pass judgement on who can woman better. It's a world away from what it started out as.

i’m sorry but you are being really unreasonable you are being a karan

Ok 🤨

And don't worry hun, I don't fucking listen to it

Why are you so bothered that you're posting about it then?

Feminism allows women to express themselves in any way they see fit.

Ah yes, the old feminism is all about women expressing themselves - but only when that expression suits men and the male gaze. Otherwise women can fuck off. You only have to look at what has happened to JK Rowling recently to see that that is the truth.

don't tell other women that they're 'doing feminism wrong'

Why?

Because it's not some club that has rules that must be obeyed. Feminism on MN is totally fucked. It's full of mean girls who think they can pass judgement on who can woman better. It's a world away from what it started out as.

This, 'with bells on' as MNetters like to say

@amelia4543

i’m sorry but you are being really unreasonable you are being a karan this song is about female empowerment though the way of a women’s pleasure’ male rappers always sing about them having sex and their pleasure and finally a women raps about it so your are being sexist aswell if you have a problem with the song then don’t fucking listen to it and it’s abit of an exaggeration with it making you feel sick because as if you haven’t had sex and done sexual things with your partner or masterbaited and you enjoy that so then why shouldn’t a rapper make a song about female pleaser and empowerment

Lol!

What's a 'karan' by the way?

I have to say, the song has become a bit of an ear worm for me recently, I can't get it out of my head! But it is pretty gross. How come men don't sing about being gagged and choked by their sexual partners?

Because it's not some club that has rules that must be obeyed. Feminism on MN is totally fucked. It's full of mean girls who think they can pass judgement on who can woman better. It's a world away from what it started out as.

Could you expand on this please? What did it start out as?

I think the song is pretty bland. It wants to be controversial but it's nothing worse then artists like the City Girls have been saying for years? We had Khia and "my neck, my back" what, 20 years ago? I dont find anything shocking about it at all. The beat is OK.

Feminism allows women to express themselves in any way they see fit

Yes, I thought you were going to say something like that. And once those women have expressed themselves, is it anti-feminist to criticise them for being disgusting? Is that your feminism? Women beyond reproach?

Just checking the rules. Sorry, there are no rules. Ok then, I’ll stand by my critique. Just expressing myself, you know.

Is it because it's 2 female rappers singing this? No

Would you say the same if it was male rappers?? Yes

Lyrics from www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/cardi-b/wap.html (copied and pasted them)

Thanks for removing my post MN, I copied and pasted it then realised there was a word in the lyrics that I should have censored, apologies!

I don’t mind the song in parts, talking about pussy and sex is fine. I dislike the parts about wanting to be choked (on a dick) because it still seems all about men and their pleasure, whereas the song could have really been about female empowerment. Men rap about sex and their dick all the time but they don’t talk about being choked or ‘lookin for a beatin’

Great, you express yourself however you want to and I will too.

Yes it is anti-feminist to slag off the way in which other women choose to express themselves.

It's not new, "my neck, my back" by Khia, Lil Kim's 'How many licks?"

I don't think they're the same (at least in terms of 'empowerment').

My neck, my back is a woman directing a man to give her oral in the manner she wants. It's basically an instruction manual with most of the focus on making sure they're doing it with some proper effort, and it's all about her pleasure. Might not be to some people's taste because of the subject matter, but the message is pretty clear and tbh is more akin to what I'd expect from male rappers.

How many licks is pretty much the same. The focus is on her pleasure and the guys that have made her orgasm. Again, not to everyone's taste but the focus is her.

WAP could have managed that but instead the focus keeps slipping back to calling women whores, spitting on them, choking them, and giving them cash/things rather than giving them pleasure. None of that says female empowerment so much as 'I'm hot because I'll let you treat me like your personal porn fantasy/prostitute' which, to me, is the opposite of how women should be empowered. Female empowerment shouldn't be dependent on letting men do demeaning things to us for their own sexual thrill. It defeats the object.

Clearly some women on here who havent a clue what feminism is. It has fuck all to do with the lowest common denominator being free to Express Herself without critique.