Reporting dangerous dogs?

[LondonLassi]

Something has been on my mind for a few days after hearing about the poor 12 day old baby who died after being attacked by a dog.

My sister’s neighbour has a 16 year old son who is regularly in trouble with the police. I spend a lot of time there. The screaming and shouting that comes from next door is horrendous and the police are often called out to restrain him. He is not in school. Smokes weed all day. I’ve never seen his face because he wears a hoodie over a face covering (even pre-COVID) I’m just trying to paint a picture of the kind of troubled youth we’re dealing with here. If you make eye contact with him he will swear at you, call you names and threaten you. He is quite frankly a bit scary.

About a year ago they got two puppies from the same litter. They are fully grown now and they look like some sort of pit bull cross. Possibly pit bull/mastiff. They are huge. I’ll attach a pic of what I think they might be. When we sit out in the garden we can hear them next door fighting and growling, they barge my sisters fence to try to get to her small jack Russell terriers. They’ve had to repair the fence three times already after the dogs broke it.

This boy walks the dogs regularly. They are not muzzled. If we happen to leave the house at the same time the dogs go up on their hind legs and get very over excited. The boy has to pull them back to get them away. They try to break free to get to anyone walking near them if they’re out for a walk. Tonight we happened to be leaving as the boy was walking home. The dogs immediately started barking at us and were trying to run towards us and had to be restrained. We often hear people shouting when they walk by because of the dogs trying to get to them. It’s very scary when it happens because they are big and intimidating.

I am terrified of what would happen if these dogs managed to get loose. They have been raised by someone with a violent, anti social background. I can’t shake the image of them getting hold of a child. The boy has a little brother in the house, probably around 6 years old.

What would you do in this situation? I’m thinking of reporting them as potentially dangerous dogs. If IABU please tell me. It just seems like an awful attack waiting to happen.

I’ve been called an idiot, a snob, prejudiced, pearl clutching, ignorant, a know it all that lives in a small world. But how dare I get angry and give it back to you 🙄

his deadly beasts
Truly descended into hysteria with nonsense like this 🤣

You’re only angry because we don’t all agree with your rants and ill informed posts that have steadily got more hysterical and nasty.

exactly how is an inherent trait bred out?!
If you say they can make lovely pets in the right hands then surely this point is invalid and wrong?

Do bull breeds not have an inherent tendency to kill and maim? It’s what they were bred for. Again you have now said they can make lovey pets? Direct contradiction.

I’ve posted links too, some with solid facts about the breeds in question that are nothing short of terrifying
Again...

but we do know the boy and the dogs. Can you not read?
You also said the dogs are living with a younger child, who I'm taking is not full of bite holes from these savage beasts?

OP you have made it clear that you are prejudice against bull breads. However the bigger issue here is that you hate the neighbours so this is a good way to get one up on them. Has your sister had any run ins with the dog to suggest they would be aggressive to people. Has she seen them bite, attack? Not just run into a fence?

but we do know the boy and the dogs. Can you not read?*
You also said the dogs are living with a younger child, who I'm taking is not full of bite holes from these savage beasts?*

But the boys mother is scared of the dogs

@sunglassesonthetable my mum is scared of my dog. She's never bitten her, gone for her done anything other than jump up at her once when she was a puppy. My mum is now terrified and if my dog goes to nuzzle her hand she jumps and will walk away.

@queenofpandas

do you think the 16 year old sounds like a responsible owner?

Would you let your dog repeatedly lunge at people on the street?

@sunglassesonthetable the 16year old has parents. For all purposes he is just walking the dogs, the dogs belong to the family he didn't buy the dogs for himself.
Dogs lunging on a lead is NOT an automatic sign of aggression. More often than not it is excitement

No I didn't say dog's lunging on the lead was aggression, I know it could be excitement, I asked wether you would let your dog repeatedly lunge at passers by?

Given that we know that they are his dogs ( and his mother is frightened of them) and that he doesn't have a good relationship with his mother ( so probably doesn't take kindly to her input ) - Do you think he is a suitable owner for these two strong and active dogs?

@queenofpandas

@sunglassesonthetable sometimes no matter how much training you put in it can be hard to curb these behaviours as others have said it takes strangers to behave appropriately to make the training work.
Again the dogs don't belong to solely the 16year old. It is a family effort, from OPs posts it seems that the 16year old is. It doing anything irresponsible

@queenofpandas
How is it invalid and wrong? It is in their nature to be aggressive but in the right hands they can be controlled and make lovely pets. Isn’t that the whole argument going on here. Even the die hard dog lovers have said in the wrong hands dogs can be dangerous 🤨 They were bred to maim and kill, that’s common knowledge. With the right owner they hopefully won’t do this but at the end of the day it’s still in their nature. The are beautiful dogs but even with the right owner I’d still be weary. The facts and figures relating to the breed ARE TERRIFYING. It doesn’t mean that they can’t still be lovely pets. It just doesn’t bode well for their future when they are being raised by a dangerous child.

My sister runs back into the house if they are in the front yard. They lunge at her and bark like crazy. The kid laughs while this happens. Their garden is littered with ripped up teddies and they have killed numerous foxes. They don’t just run into a fence, they barge at it repeatedly until the wood snaps and they half get into her garden. My sister has now put reinforced steel bars agains the panels to keep the fence up. They sound so calm and placid don’t they! Definitely been raised to be disciplined and obedient.

@queenofpandas

With respect I think that's a bit of a cop out. I don't believe you would let your dog lunge repeatedly at strangers. Responsible dog owners don't.

I know dog owners who have had tricky dogs and who only walked them at night to avoid this sort of thing.

The problem is that the 2 dogs are managed by this 16 year old . They "belong" to the family in name only. Is he an appropriate owner for 2 strong and active dogs?

@LondonLassi you and your sister are bordering on being hysterical. You don't like the neighbours that's been made clear, you clearly aren't a dog fan.
My cockapoo rips up teddies in fact in your eyes she would be a monster who should be PTS because she's killed more teddies then I care to count. She also has her mad 5 mins in the garden. She'll run round in circles, doing her 'doodle dash' barking and jumping at fences. Again in your eyes she's dangerous and untrained. When out on walks she gets excited if people come towards her, she goes on her hind legs and barks, this is something we've had to work hard on, unfortunately because she's fluffy people don't care and will reward her for doing it by giving her cuddles. Again in your eyes that would make her vicious? However inside the house (unless someone rings the bell) she is soppy, sleeps for majority of the day, will lick you to death if she had the option too.
Would you say my cockapoo was dangerous because she rips teddies, will 'lunge' on her lead to come to you and runs/barges into the fence. Or because she's small, fluffy and cute looking would you save your hysteria?

@queenofpandas how ignorant to assume the kid has two parents. My sister has lived next to them for ten years. Not a father in sight. He beats the shit out of his mother and is regularly in trouble with the police. You paint a picture of a normal 16 year old with a normal family who walks the dogs like a good boy. Seriously, can you not read?

@sunglassesonthetable as the dogs have never bitten, never got loose and attacked etc I wouldn't say he wasn't being responsible. Not being responsible would be letting them off the lead, encouraging them to attack etc. Seems to me they are kept on a lead and as they haven't attacked are therefore under control

@LondonLassi Seriously, can you not read? Interesting. Again someone has had a differing opinion so you throw insults, i understand you were expecting everyone to agree but unfortunately as seen by majority of the responses YABU. You have nothing to report the police won't come out for a dog that barks when approached by a stranger who is on a lead.
You are the problem OP

@queenofpandas No, your dog does not sound dangerous but definitely untrained and undisciplined. Great job! No wonder your mother doesn’t like her. I’m sorry I don’t like the 16 year old thug that uses drugs, swears at his neighbours and beats his mother up. I’m a terrible person 🙄 I must remind myself to make more of an effort with him next time my sister minds the 6 year old while his mum is in hospital and he has to go into foster care for the night. Next time he pulls out his knife at the cops I’ll ask him if I can borrow it to chop my veggies.

@queenofpandas the majority of responses are from people who agree with me? It’s only a small handful of you that keep banging on about how lovely dangerous dogs are.

Their garden is littered with ripped up teddies and they have killed numerous foxes. They don’t just run into a fence, they barge at it repeatedly until the wood snaps and they half get into her garden
With respect, you really don’t seem very knowledgeable about dogs at all.
I thought you said your sister has jack
Did I read that wrong??
If so, they surely must rip up teddies?
That is a very typical dog behaviour.
I’ve yet to meet a jack that doesn’t disembowel soft toys.
And I’d be very surprised if they don’t shake and kill any rats they find?!
Prey drive (killing foxes, rats, cats etc) is in no way linked to human aggression and again, most dogs exhibit prey drive to some degree

** has jack Russells that meant to say

@LondonLassi definitely untrained and undisciplined.

And there you go. Showing your complete lack of knowledge about dogs and dog breeds. Great job OP

@queenofpandas

I am in two minds about the 16 year old but the continual barking and lunging ( even in excitement) would be a big problem for me.

I would not want any dog, particularly a strong looking dog ( breed irrelevant) doing that to me on a regular basis.

Your Mum didn't like it when a puppy did it to her.

I don't think a responsible dog owner would allow it either. I don't believe you would let your dog do it. And I certainly wouldn't let mine do it.

No, your dog does not sound dangerous

So my dog doesn't sound dangerous but is the bull breeds do it they are dangerous?

@LondonLassi

@queenofpandas your dog has bitten your mother, lunges and barks at people, barges your fences. Sounds like the definition of a well trained pup. It doesn’t take a dog behaviour specialist to see that you have an out of control spoiled dog on your hands. The difference is a tiny ball of fluff can’t rip your throat out.

@queenofpandas

I don't think that boy sounds like a responsible owner.

I wouldn't want 2 strong, lunging, barking dogs living next door to me if I felt they weren't socialised and trained responsibly.

Them being on the lead , when out, is the very least I would expect.