To think there's a serious lack of risk assessment at Hogwarts?

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Just rewatching the films today, and honestly the school should've been closed down. The teachers are deeply irresponsible.

The one that really gets me is when they say Harry has to compete In the Triwizard Tournament because his name came out the goblet. I mean, if the teachers has said no, what would've happened? And sending 11 year olds into a forest at night when they know something in there is killing unicorns as a form of detention?

AIBU to think the magical Ofsted would've had them closed down a long time before the 90s?

@Akire I wondered that but then I wondered if it was like uni textbooks and they updated them every few years to keep the authors in galleons?

@TheFormerPorpentinaScamander

Xenophillius was a single dad. He was a widower not a divorcee though.

They wouldn't have let Fleurs sister die. They (or at least Harry) are told that in the book after the task, unless I imagined that bit . They had to make them think it was possible though otherwise the champions wouldn't have even tried.

A lot of the plot holes people come up with (and I'm not saying there aren't any) are because people have only seen the films.

But if they wouldn’t have let Fleur’s sister die then presumably they wouldn’t have let Harry and others die by the dragons either? So if the archers were going to keep Harry safe why all the hullabaloo when Harry was selected? Dumbledore acted like it was life or death.

The Triwizard entrants can die, in the same way athletes competing in dangerous sports could die. They knew the risks and (in theory) signed up anyway. There’s not really any practical way to ensure someone can safely fight a dragon.

The loved ones weren’t competitors and weren’t really given a choice, plus the situation for them was controlled and they were unconscious the entire time. There’s no risk to them as they weren’t competing just being used as props.

Yep like Froggy said. The champions signed up and in doing so accepted the risks. The others hadn't done that and were just being used for the game.

@44PumpLane

Also the thing that gets me is that they all have to come via the Hogwarts express, so does that mean that a wizarsing family living in Aberdeen has to travel all the way to London to put their kid on a train that will likely take them to somewhere in the region of Northumberland to Edinburgh? What a wasted journey!

Yes but they a) need to buy a few things from Diagon Ally and b) used magical means to get there.

@TheDragQueen

I always found it worrying that a lot of the teachers seemed to have very few qualifications (eg Gilderoy Lockhart was really just a semi famous author) The staff turn over was unusually high, especially for the “defence of the dark arts”.

Yes its cursed so no one can be defence against the dark arts teacher fir more than a year :p

@TheFormerPorpentinaScamander

Yep like Froggy said. The champions signed up and in doing so accepted the risks. The others hadn't done that and were just being used for the game.

Ugh I sound such a nerd but they did consent from says Dumbledore took then to his office before. They weren't kidnapped by merman:p

Oh I know they agreed to be used, but what I mean is they were never at risk of dying in the same way that the champions were.

I love the books so much.

The film, however, are pure shite. Fingers crossed for an upgrade soon.

I’m going to agree with the PP re: the ridiculously young ages that everybody in the wizarding world settles down. I know they were in the midst of war, but Harry’s parents still married at 18!

Meanwhile, Harry’s eldest son is born only six years after the second war ends. So, Ginny graduates Hogwarts, barely begins an exciting career as a star quidditch player, and is happy to leave all of that and settle down to have babies at, what, 23?

The thing about all this is that the Hogwarts world is very closely modelled on boarding-school stories of the 50s and the world within them.

(In fact, way back when there were only a couple of books I wrote a forum post opining that Harry Potter was actually a school story with magic as a secondary characteristic - complete with scholarship pupil, snobbery and bullies, unexpected friendship, fascinating mystery, and - the final touch - shooting the winning goal!)

Which is why there's a Wizarding Wireless Network but not a Television one; teacher training is desultory and optional (more 30s than 50s really I suppose); women only have actual careers if they don't want to get married; hardly anyone except scandalous socialites (Blaise Zabini's mother, was it?) gets divorced; and Britain is Best, Forn Parts are dangerous and exotic, and Risk Assessment means judging which threat you're best placed to run away from...

Ofsted inspection:
petewharmby.blogspot.com/2013/02/ofsted-report-hogwarts-school-of.html?m=1

Outside of being almost murdered frequently, another safeguarding concern is the fact that nobody ever checks on the kids. Some of them are as young as 11 and they stay up as late as they like. In Malory Towers the matron always came in to say goodnight and make sure the girls were in bed but at Hogwarts they just look after themselves. Although I suppose if Harry was tucked up in bed at 9pm every night the books would have been pretty dull.

@Teaandscone Really enjoyed reading that, thanks 😂 It's so nice reading Ofsted reports that I don't have any personal involvement with!

That ofstead inspection is brilliant!
Let's face it, the books would be more than a little boring if health and safety measures were in place!