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To think there's a serious lack of risk assessment at Hogwarts?

89 replies

Fantajuice · 13/09/2020 23:27

Just rewatching the films today, and honestly the school should've been closed down. The teachers are deeply irresponsible.

The one that really gets me is when they say Harry has to compete In the Triwizard Tournament because his name came out the goblet. I mean, if the teachers has said no, what would've happened? And sending 11 year olds into a forest at night when they know something in there is killing unicorns as a form of detention?

AIBU to think the magical Ofsted would've had them closed down a long time before the 90s?

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BabyLlamaZen · 14/09/2020 09:43

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Aroundtheworldin80moves · 14/09/2020 09:50

Harrys treatment at the Dursleys upsets me... At best it's neglect. Unless Dumbledore was regularly confunding the neighbours/school/social services etc. I presume he also provided paperwork for them to bring up Harry. Surely they could have found a more caring Evans relative, if it's his mother's blood protecting him?

FilthyforFirth · 14/09/2020 09:58

Yes I agree Dumbledores biggest mistake is allowing the abuse Harry suffered at the hands of the Dursleys. Shocking!

Flora20 · 14/09/2020 10:00

God yes - as a teacher there are so many red flags to spot!

The number of times teachers take Harry or other individual students into their private offices for a private chat? Safeguarding nightmare...

Dumbledore's massive failings - knowingly leaving an infant in an abusive household, and then leaving him to his own devices once he's at school; allocating teaching positions on the basis of personal connections (mind you, that's pretty typical of SLT in my experience!)

I agree with a previous poster though - HP series is amazing despite some serious plot holes. Harry himself is an annoying little toerag!

starfish88 · 14/09/2020 10:00

I know the goblet of fire is an unbreakable magical contract but WHY? Surely there are ethical issues of getting children to agree to any contract let alone an unbreakable one and traditionally the triwizard tournament was open to everyone!

And there's very little discussion on post NEWT qualifications, certainly not teacher training so presumably anyone can apply to a teaching job.

SleepOhHowIMissYou · 14/09/2020 21:13

Harry was a Horcrux so of course the Dursley's hated him. Look at what wearing the cursed locket did to Ron and that was weeks, not years...I'm such a geek.

TheFormerPorpentinaScamander · 14/09/2020 21:31

But not all horcruxes had that effect. Ginny and Harry weren't affected like that by the diary. Dumbledore wasn't affected in the same way by the ring, although it did turn his hand black. Although it could have had some relevance.

They hated Harry because he was a wizard, and they were "perfectly normal, thank you very much"

rslsys · 14/09/2020 21:47

@Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons

I don’t know - the stairs to the girls dorms won’t let the boys go up so that’s something Grin
Yes, but does this work the same way for the boys stairs where the girls are concerned?
iklboo · 14/09/2020 21:48

Mental creatures in the basement. Three headed dogs, basilisks, trolls, giant snakes. Chris Packham would be going nuts.

Caretaker into torture? Squib my arse. More like Squibham Hussein!!

Psychopathic teachers - Professor Quirrell, Dolores Umbridge. Madame Trelawney is a few pancakes short of a breakfast.

Dumbledore buggers off at a whim with no deputy head in charge.

Animal torture (Transfiguration Class I'm looking at you).

A homicidal tree for goodness sake!

TheFormerPorpentinaScamander · 14/09/2020 21:49

@rslsys nope. Hermione goes to the boys dormitory.

rslsys · 14/09/2020 21:50

[quote TheFormerPorpentinaScamander]@rslsys nope. Hermione goes to the boys dormitory.[/quote]
Hussey!

rslsys · 14/09/2020 21:51

e too many . . .

trilbydoll · 14/09/2020 21:51

No, Hermione goes in the boys dorm no problem.

trilbydoll · 14/09/2020 21:53

In fairness to Dumbledore he couldn't retain a DADA teacher for more than a year after turning down Tom Riddle. So he probably exhausted the population of qualified teachers long before Harry turned up.

BilboBercow · 14/09/2020 21:53

They've had a few deaths over the years which you'd think would close them down but I'm I'm actually surprised it's not more

thelegohooverer · 14/09/2020 21:58

I actually found it slightly jarring that the parents would be concerned if it got out that their children being taught by a werewolf. After everything else it didn’t seem that big a deal.

Dungabees · 14/09/2020 22:00

Harry is under the age to legally sign a contract so surely the magical contract couldn’t stand and therefore nothing would have happened if he decided not to partake in the Triwizard Tournament?
Also what about learning basic maths and English? Are there magical primary schools? Magical universities? So many questions.

AppleKatie · 14/09/2020 22:02

Filch the squib bothers me.

I mean no wonder he’s as miserable as sin and gone a bit errr manacle happy shall we say?

He is surrounded by badly behaved, disobedient kids who can do magic and spends his life cleaning and fixing shit without magic.

I mean surely caretaker at Hogwarts isn’t a job for a squib? Where’s the employer’s duty of care?

TVWife · 14/09/2020 22:07

I often wondered about students who live in Hogsmeade - you never hear day pupils mentioned

Jonad · 14/09/2020 22:35

Has anyone seen this? If Hogwarts was an inner city school -
m.youtube.com/watch?v=j-2ZxldMO-M

LetsGoFlyAKiteee · 14/09/2020 22:51

Don't go into the forest...unless you have detention in which case..good luck! Off you go

JalapenoDave · 14/09/2020 22:57

Yeah, all those floating candles in the dining hall can't have been risk assessed, surely

Merryoldgoat · 14/09/2020 23:02

It’s the Alohamora spell which enrages me.

You lock a door. It can be opened using a proper beginner spell.

So you magically lock it and Alohamora doesn’t work.

Therefore it’s an entirely useless spell and I’m in a proper funk writing this as it annoys me so much.

Merryoldgoat · 14/09/2020 23:03

@LetsGoFlyAKiteee

Don't go into the forest...unless you have detention in which case..good luck! Off you go
Also, this. Very much this.
merryhouse · 14/09/2020 23:06

I saw someone suggest that the spell on the girls' stairs had been put there by the girls at some point.

And then raised the question of why the girls of the time had found it necessary...

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