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Alan Sugar says put a suit on, put a dress on, put your makeup on

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Dontmakemegoback2office · 12/09/2020 10:30

Do your hair and get back into work..
All from the comfort of his own home. Mind blown.

www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/lord-sugar-says-public-must-put-on-a-suit-put-on-a-dress-and-get-back-to-work/

Lord Alan is of course just worried about all these office blocks that he owns and rents out through Amshold and Amsprop in places like Mayfair being empty and the losses he will now incur due to the fact that we have found a better way to live and work.

The world is changing. Either adapt or disappear.

P.s. we are working Alan, just not in your offices. Because we can do it well from home.

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ShesMadeATwatOfMePam · 12/09/2020 10:33

I don't feel better when I'm at work. I hate working in an office. Fed up of propping up people like him who as you say, want people to get back to work to make him more money.

Dontmakemegoback2office · 12/09/2020 10:34

Me too. It’s making me feel angry.

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Kaktus · 12/09/2020 10:34

I can’t wait to put a dress on and get back into an office. Hate hate hate working from home (I have done it long term previously, 3+ years, and hated it then too.).

DisorganisedPurpose · 12/09/2020 10:35

Quite agree. The world of work has hopefully changed forever. Solves some climate issues too. We will probably find some will return to the office but not the huge numbers as previously. Some offices were horribly overcrowded too so all good.

Kaktus · 12/09/2020 10:36

Sorry should have elaborated. After a bit I stop feeling like I’m working from home and start feeling like I live at work. I like talking to people face to face. Socialising. Going for a quick drink after work sometimes.

MorrisZapp · 12/09/2020 10:37

As usual there's middle ground here. Some people loathe travelling to work and being in an office, and never want to do it again. Some people loathe being at home, trying to write reports on an Ikea coffee table with nobody but grumpy DP to banter with or chat over the task in hand .

Most people will be somewhere between the two, surely? I don't want to live in pyjamas. I want my work life and home life to have demarcation lines and I think come midwinter many others will feel much the same way.

Ponoka7 · 12/09/2020 10:39

I liked Alan Sugar until this. My DD wfh (she now has some time in her workplace) has, never been happier. She's created a good work/life balance and is more productive and less stressed.

I always thought that he was a more well rounded person, than to just focus on profit.

everythingisginandroses · 12/09/2020 10:41

He's a greedy gobshite.

catgirl1976 · 12/09/2020 10:41

I love working from home. I am more productive and have a better work life balance. I have no desire to go back to the office. Work are keen to get everyone back. I’m keen to find an entirely home based role and the minute I do I’ll be resigning. I don’t think I’m alone in that and companies will need to be more flexible to retain talent. I appreciate it’s not for everyone but the world is changing.

Work is an activity not a place.

MorrisZapp · 12/09/2020 10:42

As for 'all he wants to do is make money' well, yes. So does my employer, thank fuck. Keeps me in a great job and paying taxes which pay for expensive things like the NHS and the benefits others will need when their industries disappear.

Kaktus · 12/09/2020 10:43

I actually really enjoyed it for the first year. Second year was ok, started to feel like it was a bit of a drag. By year 3 I detested it. I had a fairly stressful job though where I was working 12-14 hour days from home and there was no balance at all. I just lived in my workplace.

Heptember · 12/09/2020 10:43

I'm paraphrasing but he was on tv the other day saying something like 'now they're all working from home, they don't want to go back because they're enjoying it!'

Yeah god forbid anyone should enjoy themselves whilst working for a living, eh Alan? Grin

MorrisZapp · 12/09/2020 10:46

Catgirl obviously home working suits you very well. Would it have worked as well at the start of your career? What does a fresh school leaver or graduate's first week in their chosen industry look like if everyone's gone home?

'Here's your laptop, give Dave a shout if any questions. Oh, here's a photo of your colleagues. Hope you can come in at Christmas. Good luck'

catgirl1976 · 12/09/2020 10:49

I don’t know Morris. DH is about to start a new entirely home based job and that’s pretty much how it is for him. I appreciate he’s in his 40s and not fresh out of school but I’m not sure what a young person would get from being in an office they can’t get at home. I do appreciate it’s not for everyone and in some roles it’s not possible but i think it needs to be a standard option for those who want it where the role can be done effectively.

Gelop · 12/09/2020 10:52

*What does a fresh school leaver or graduate's first week in their chosen industry look like if everyone's gone home?

'Here's your laptop, give Dave a shout if any questions. Oh, here's a photo of your colleagues. Hope you can come in at Christmas. Good luck*
Company I work for is fully WFH and they hire fresh graduates, it's nothing like that, they get full training as they would in an office.

nannieann · 12/09/2020 10:55

Wfh is good for many people, esp working parents with younger children and school runs to juggle. Giving most people the chance of wfh (if this is do-able) has to be the way forward from an environment point of view too. Whether Alan Sugar is able to make profits he doesn't need from his office blocks shouldn't be a consideation at all.

Ellmau · 12/09/2020 10:57

what a young person would get from being in an office they can’t get at home

Mentoring on the spot. Training that can't be done virtually. Learning company culture. Supervision.

I think it genuinely is an issue for new starters especially those newish to he workplace in general.

Some jobs can be done from home just as well as at an office. Some can't, obviously.

Some can be done from home, but less efficiently than at the office. I sspect there are more of those than some would like to think.

AndNoneForGretchenWieners · 12/09/2020 10:59

Alan Sugar can piss off. I quite liked him before (i met him at the HoL and he was really lovely to chat to) but he has completely gone down in my estimation now.

Dontmakemegoback2office · 12/09/2020 11:09

@AndNoneForGretchenWieners

Alan Sugar can piss off. I quite liked him before (i met him at the HoL and he was really lovely to chat to) but he has completely gone down in my estimation now.
Me too. I’ve always admired him to some extent. But the willingness he’s shown to not give a shit about people’s quality of life, when we’re telling him our lives are a lot better for wfh, has massively disappointed me.

The capitalist classes will do anything to protect their wealth. We’re just worker drones to them. They don’t give a shiny shit about us.

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QueenPaws · 12/09/2020 11:19

Would happily go back to work but there's no room for me so no, I can't Grin

dottiedodah · 12/09/2020 11:21

I like AS but he like most multi millionaires is focused on profit .There seems to be a great drive to return employees to their "rightful " place in the office ,as though Covid has disappeared! The week gone when rates are once again rising ,and parts of Birmingham are going under Lockdown once more ,seems a curious time to be "advising " the workforce to commute into London and other big cities ,but apparently we are not supposed to meet up with more than 6 people socially!

lljkk · 12/09/2020 11:39

mmm... I think he's saying that structure in our lives brings rewards. If he doesn't meet people who are genuinely happier WFH, fair enough. I presume they have nothing to say to him; it's the ones who miss structure, office support & social contact who will be talking to him most.

Kaktus · 12/09/2020 11:43

It’s funny actually, most people I know in real life are keen to get back to the office.

BlueJava · 12/09/2020 11:43

I think he's just very old fashioned, very untrusting of his staff (which says more about him than them) and worried about his portfolio of commercial properties.

WanderingMilly · 12/09/2020 11:45

I went back to work last week, this week has been a week from hell (and I only work part-time). I am tired, exhausted due to long shifts in a residential school..... Despite all this, yes, I would say get back to the office/workplace, home is not a good place to work permanently.

You don't get the same amount done at home, nor the same companionship of office colleagues. You do not sound professional when a client rings up and your kids are playing in the background, or your dog barking, or your partner is calling you for dinner from the kitchen (yes, I've had all these on calls to home-workers). You also need a proper separation from work/homelife, to leave everything behind at the office/school etc. is better for mental health. It is also better for our city centre economy.

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