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Why did Netflix allow this film?

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latheritup · 11/09/2020 01:08

Please take a second to watch the video on this link, this is the final dance scene of the new movie on Netflix called Cuties.

mobile.twitter.com/MaryMargOlohan/status/1303908536553017349

I cannot understand why Netflix thought this was the right film to add to their selections. These are children.

There are several petitions going round to get this removed off their platform.

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steff13 · 11/09/2020 05:10

I'm in the US, and no, it's not typical here.
🙄. I'm sure there are places that this sort of thing goes on, but it's hardly usual.

This is what my Netflix says about it.

Why did Netflix allow this film?
Stripesgalore · 11/09/2020 05:11

Do the children on dance moms rubs their own crotches and grab each other’s arses in dance routines?

If so, why do you watch it?

I don’t expect Netflix to behave in any way responsibly. They will show what ever they can make money from showing.

BitOfFun · 11/09/2020 05:15

I don't watch it, Stripes. I had an acquaintance who was on the UK version, and saw on social media the routines that she posted of her daughter. I found them pretty shocking in terms of the sexualised dance moves, but none of what I saw involved group dance.

nestisflown · 11/09/2020 05:33

Dance moms is sexualized somewhat but this clip goes further - the sex simulation was really shocking.

I get what the French female producer was trying to do but my concern is for these children who I don’t think could have consented to this routine in any meaningful way. The dance is essentially soft porn in dance format. If a child can’t consent to sex acts, they shouldn’t be able to consent to pornography- especially giving the permanent nature of film.

Hyperfish101 · 11/09/2020 05:50

The director could have made her points without having such extreme examples of the sexualised dances.

LockdownLump · 11/09/2020 05:54

If a child can’t consent to sex acts, they shouldn’t be able to consent to pornography- especially giving the permanent nature of film

Their parents must have consented to it on their behalf.

nestisflown · 11/09/2020 05:57

@LockdownLump

If a child can’t consent to sex acts, they shouldn’t be able to consent to pornography- especially giving the permanent nature of film

Their parents must have consented to it on their behalf.

I know their parents must have consented on their behalf. I’m just saying it seems a legal loophole. If parents can’t consent to their child having sexual relations, they shouldn’t be able to consent to their child filming what is essentially soft pornography.
Redrosesandsunsets · 11/09/2020 06:09

It cannot be okay to let girls dance like this, and have directors and others perv as they tell 11 year olds how to gyrate and imitate sex and it also be an 18 rated viewing movie and say the movie is just trying to show us how sexualized dancing has become for youngsters, and that this movie aims to show us how bad it’s got. No.
We would not put children in child pornography films or let’s call it what it is, child rape films, to show us we dont want that sort of thing. There is no sense to this movie.
Make a documentary on real lives yes, but do not take young actors and do anything like this. As a society we should be horrified.

longwayoff · 11/09/2020 06:18

Revolting. Meanwhile, Netflix has also bought up one of our UK teatime favourites, a series or two of Come Dine With Me. Rated Mature. Accessible with pin number to protect your kids from failed soufflés and overdone lamb with potatoes dolphin nose. ? Go figure, as they say over there.

HardStare · 11/09/2020 06:18

Little Miss Sunshine made the point better.

FortunesFave · 11/09/2020 06:20

I'm not easily shocked but that's absolutely not right. I can't believe it's been ok;d! Netflix must have a complaints procedure right? This is highly questionable...and that's an understatement! I feel like the director needs to be pulled into line...and the choreographer!

HardStare · 11/09/2020 06:21

Dolphin nose? Grin

PopsicleHustler · 11/09/2020 06:22

The parents are the worst, allowing their child to audition or be selected for the part. It's so vile it's unreal

nearlynermal · 11/09/2020 06:25

Yikes. If you contrast this with the scene from Little Miss Sunshine, it tramples over that fine line and just keeps going.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 11/09/2020 06:26

That made me laugh - that sharp bark kind of laugh!

The original is quite a stark portrayal of the issue. Has a much more local, I want to say intimate, as in friendly, close up, understanding manner. Making it work well, quietly as well as shockingly. Disclaimer: I didn't see the whole film, just clips for comparison.

The Netflix version is a highly sexualised version. Looking at the reaction you can see 2 things: it needed to be, as the French version probably wouldn't have rasied an eyebrow in the US; those who do react REALLY go for it, often losing all logic as they do so.

Can't make up my mind whether this will do what it was originally intended to do or if the shock value will override that! Though I imagine that the 'shocked and disgusted of Middle America, etc' will take over and any good the film might have done, real discussion that might have been had, will be lost in all of the outpourings of outrage!

nearlynermal · 11/09/2020 06:27

(But saying that, I don't know the context)

FortunesFave · 11/09/2020 06:27

There's a lot of talk about how the film is nuanced and how it shows the pressure girls are under..as though that makes it OK to show little girls crotch grabbing and similar!

It's not. Not ok at all.

demelza82 · 11/09/2020 06:28

I am reserving judgement until I see the film.
To put abother side of the story across - the trailer reflects a more thoughtful commentary on the hypersexualisation of children. There is a strong feeling from people who have actually seen the film that the marketing department of Netflix have severely fucked up by creating the provocative poster that entirely misrepresents the film.

Stripesgalore · 11/09/2020 06:35

‘any good the film might have done, real discussion that might have been had, will be lost in all of the outpourings of outrage!’

What good do you think the film could have done? Do you think that there are people who are in favour of child sexual exploitation who will watch it and change their behaviour?

For people who are not in favour of child sexual exploitation, what actions do you think you will be taking as a consequence of watching 11 year olds simulating sex acts that you wouldn’t have take without watching it?

oakleaffy · 11/09/2020 06:36

Really bad that they are showing underage girls in very provocative, adult ''sexy'' dancing and costumes, but the French film poster is so different to the American one.
So the film is Against the exploitation and sexualisation of young girls?...Seeing the clips, one wouldn't guess that.
Either way, the end result is young girls dancing and dressed in a sexualised adult way. Very unsettling.

Hydrate · 11/09/2020 06:40

Omg that video clip is terrible! Shocking it is on NF.

RuffleCrow · 11/09/2020 06:50

Lay off the op. There are plenty of things documentaries could be made about where the subject matter is entirely unsuitable to be broadcast. Usually, documentary makers would get past this with images that allude to, but do not perpetuate, the problem.

GrapefruitsAreNotTheOnlyFruit · 11/09/2020 06:52

It doesn't matter what the intention is. They've produced material that pedofiles will get off on.

It reminds me of comedy where they make vile jokes about disabled people etc and they claim they were being ironic because it's really those attitudes being mocked.

MandosHatHair · 11/09/2020 06:53

I get what the French female producer was trying to do but my concern is for these children who I don’t think could have consented to this routine in any meaningful way. The dance is essentially soft porn in dance format. If a child can’t consent to sex acts, they shouldn’t be able to consent to pornography- especially giving the permanent nature of film.

My thoughts exactly, I wont watch the full documentary, I already know girls are exploited in disgusting ways, I don't need to see it on my TV.
Has anything happened to help these girls since this documentary was released, or have Netflix just provided an easily accessible video of child abuse for paedophiles?

Stripesgalore · 11/09/2020 07:00

It isn’t a documentary. It is a drama.

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