Why did Netflix allow this film?

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Please take a second to watch the video on this link, this is the final dance scene of the new movie on Netflix called Cuties.

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I cannot understand why Netflix thought this was the right film to add to their selections. These are children.

There are several petitions going round to get this removed off their platform.

This could introduce people to paedophilia. A nice legal taster before going down the illegal route. Ughhhhh all kinds of wrong.

Poor kids!
There must have been a better way of highlighting the issue without doing the same thing. Like you don't actually kill someone to depict a murder...

It’s the writer/director’s experience of growing up with a repressive culture at a home and seeking ‘freedom’ in another culture that is also exploitative.

Read this article about a woman posting as an 11 year old on Instagram. Not a sexual photo incidentally but that didn't stop adult men trying to groom her

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Those men will watch this film and enjoy every single porn shot that the director approved. I'm sure some of them will attempt to contact the girls who featured in the film.

Watch Three Girls. It's a documentary about children being groomed. It managed to get its point across without shooting it like a porn film. The excuses the director made are bogus. She - and everyone involved in this film - has exploited and sexualised children

At first I was like, oh people having something against street AGAIN.

And then... then it got worse.

Then it got so much worse.

Now, I feel highly uncomfortable.

I only hope to god there is a strong plot line around this which is to prove this kind of thing is wrong. That would be the only thing making it kind of ok. Even then they could have censored it in some way so peadophiles don't rip it for their sites.

paedophiles don't rip it for their sites.

Yes. It won’t stay exclusive to legit streaming site for long. Probably uploaded already for decades to come.

The black female Muslim director is a cover. She was hired as the 'face' of the film,

AFAIK, Maïmouna Doucouré both wrote and directed the film. Do you have information to the contrary @DonkeySkin?

I think it's important that Muslim women be given a voice and, to a point, should be given a pass even if there are objections. I probably would be much more against it if the director/writer was a white man.

On a personal level, I don't like it and think it will be mis-used.

No adult gets a pass. The rights of the child come first. I don’t care if it is based on her experiences. A child is not an avatar for your own past.

The actual story in the film was good. I quite enjoyed it overall.

However the hugely over sexual dancing was so completely unnecessary to the story. It would have been exactly the same story if the dancing had been the sort of hip hop dancing we see children do on BGT and the like. It would have made absolutely no difference whatsoever to the story.

The dancing parts were almost unwatchable and the reaction of the crowd was barely noticeable in my opinion. They were copying stuff they had seen on the internet but took it much further.

The eleven year olds were portrayed throughout as being very interesting sex and boys. Their behaviour was not like eleven year olds behave. They were obviously young. Rather than older teenagers playing young children.

There were also two other incredibly dodgy moments. One when Amy was caught by a older relative whose phone she had stolen and her reaction was to take her clothes off. And the other when the group were caught by some security guards. Both interludes were those classic porn scenarios.

When you start giving adults passes because of their identity, or status, you end up with paedo priests and celebs.

One rule for all, I say.

‘Ah. Yes. But this is one is not behind a paywall. And it is on Netflix so has the air of being not porn. And now it has been well publicized, why would they miss an opportunity for watching something with such a high production quality.‘

And of course it’s a great way of grooming single mums you’re dating and their kids. ‘We should all sit down and watch this film together. It’s a really important issue.’

And then you are watching soft child porn together, and Netflix are helping you normalise it.

The girl who plays Amy is 14. The girl who plays Angelica is 12. They are children. And it's very easy to find their Instagram accounts

@SavoyCabbage

The actual story in the film was good. I quite enjoyed it overall.

However the hugely over sexual dancing was so completely unnecessary to the story. It would have been exactly the same story if the dancing had been the sort of hip hop dancing we see children do on BGT and the like. It would have made absolutely no difference whatsoever to the story.

The dancing parts were almost unwatchable and the reaction of the crowd was barely noticeable in my opinion. They were copying stuff they had seen on the internet but took it much further.

The eleven year olds were portrayed throughout as being very interesting sex and boys. Their behaviour was not like eleven year olds behave. They were obviously young. Rather than older teenagers playing young children.

There were also two other incredibly dodgy moments. One when Amy was caught by a older relative whose phone she had stolen and her reaction was to take her clothes off. And the other when the group were caught by some security guards. Both interludes were those classic porn scenarios.

But there are 11 year old girls that behave like that. When I was in year 7 the cool group of girls had FWB benefits and educated all us more Innocent girls on the art of giving blowjobs. It was only later on when I was 16+ that I realised how creepy my 11/12 year old conversations with them were- I used to think they were so grown up because they slept with men in their late teens and 20s.

However having just watched the film I think the Netflix promo has done it a massive disservice. I also think that some of the dance scenes didn’t need to be so explicit for us to get the point.

I don’t see the problem with the scene where her reaction is to take her clothes off/ dance for the security guards. This was very much my mindset when I was 13 as I was into the same video girl/ hip hop culture like them. That’s why videos like Cardi B’s WAP are so dangerous to young girls. I used to watch stuff like that as a young teen and think my life would be better once I grew a women’s figure so I could use and attract men in the same way (not realising it’s the women that are being used in those scenarios)

It’s a shame because the film depicts a culture that I grew up admiring and imitating in the same way as this girl (luckily before the social media so my coming of age wasn’t all over the internet). However, poor promotion and too many lingering scenes of partially nude girating little girls puts it slightly on the side of inappropriate for me. While it’s not as black and white as I previously thought - I definitely think the sexual scenes could have been implied without affecting the gravity of the message.

‘But there are 11 year old girls that behave like that. When I was in year 7 the cool group of girls had FWB benefits and educated all us more Innocent girls on the art of giving blowjobs. It was only later on when I was 16+ that I realised how creepy my 11/12 year old conversations with them were- I used to think they were so grown up because they slept with men in their late teens and 20s.’

So girls that are being sexually abused by adults behave like that. They didn’t sleep with them. They were raped. An 11 year old can’t consent to sex.

@Stripesgalore

‘But there are 11 year old girls that behave like that. When I was in year 7 the cool group of girls had FWB benefits and educated all us more Innocent girls on the art of giving blowjobs. It was only later on when I was 16+ that I realised how creepy my 11/12 year old conversations with them were- I used to think they were so grown up because they slept with men in their late teens and 20s.’

So girls that are being sexually abused by adults behave like that. They didn’t sleep with them. They were raped. An 11 year old can’t consent to sex.

Where did I say they consented? I was simply saying that this film does depict aspects of real life- this type of sexual exploitation is very real and some young girls live like that. My using the word ‘slept with’ was to explain how my 11 year old self saw it.

But there are 11 year old girls that behave like that. When I was in year 7 the cool group of girls had FWB benefits and educated all us more Innocent girls on the art of giving blowjobs. It was only later on when I was 16+ that I realised how creepy my 11/12 year old conversations with them were- I used to think they were so grown up because they slept with men in their late teens and 20s.

So just to clarify; these were men in their late teens and early twenties having sex with children?

I was simply saying that this film does depict aspects of real life- this type of sexual exploitation is very real and some young girls live like that.

So these were men sleeping with children yet you're putting the blame on the children?

@EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire

I was simply saying that this film does depict aspects of real life- this type of sexual exploitation is very real and some young girls live like that.

So these were men sleeping with children yet you're putting the blame on the children?

I’m not putting blame on children bloody hell some people need to read. A commenter said that the film is unrealistic because the 11 year olds were interested in boys and sex. And I was responding to that comment explaining it’s not unrealistic and saying my experiences through my eyes. If you look at my comment upthread before I watched this film- I clearly state that my opinion is these girl actresses could not have given any meaningful consent to film such sexual scenes- and this is a legal loophole that needs to be addressed.

Just to clarify (again) my comment was saying what 11 year old me felt about those “cool, experienced ” girls in my year. Obviously adult me recognises it was abuse.

Nest, I do understand you’re explaining it as you saw it as an 11 year old. I had a similar experience at 13 - not realising the ‘cool’ girls were actually being abused. My post wasn’t meant as a criticism.

nestisflown, I understood your point.
I had a friend when I was 13 whose boyfriend was 21. They were in a sexual relationship, in my 13-year-old eyes it was...not a problem, I guess? I didn't realise how wrong it was until much later on. At the time I thought it was cool that he would pick her up from school in his car and how they'd go back to his flat to drink and have sex, and I thought I was the unlucky one who had parents who were so square...

I did too, Yummy. It was almost the holy grail for us to have a bf with a car and a job (no unemployment problems in the early 70s) and therefore money for gigs, clothes, heaven knows what. It was fairly common, and fairly common for those older guys to be married too (Catholic School so married bf is doubly rebellious).

The shock which ran through my year when one girls parents actually went to a solicitor to 'do' her bf for statutory rape - well that was the story anyway. I believe that particular crime does't actually exist?

I suspect that if many of the girls in my year j- myself included - would have run a mile if some older bloke told us to don those clothes and dance like that, though.

@nestisflown ah I understand now. Apologies .

What the fuck have i just watched

Oh my. I don’t believe in hiding from what’s going on. I know it takes People out their comfort zone knowing this is going but it’s someone’s daughter and yes the adults gave consent but our daughters will be raised believing this is normal. This sexualized behavior is expected. Do we want this? No. What are going to to about it - what probably most people don’t want to do as it again takes us out our comfort zone - I’m cancelling my Netflix account. I’m putting my money elsewhere. If Netflix want to grow this culture I am having no part in it. Everyone else can keep going with Netflix but I don’t want to see anyone’s 11 year old be doing this. No thank you.