Why did Netflix allow this film?

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Please take a second to watch the video on this link, this is the final dance scene of the new movie on Netflix called Cuties.

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I cannot understand why Netflix thought this was the right film to add to their selections. These are children.

There are several petitions going round to get this removed off their platform.

You dont need to watch something before having an opinion, what a stupid thing to say.

I dont have to watch porn before I know what an insidiously dark, depressing and shallow "culture" it is. Same as this film, doesnt take a brain surgeon to work out its intent

YANBU I have granddaughters and to see this made me weep that this is being sold to us as informative. This hugely sexualised performance ( I won’t gift the phrase dance to it).

No I haven’t seen the film I have no intention of allowing myself to be added to the viewing figures.

I am sick and tired of only seeing women and girl as as portrayed as sexy/not sexy.

We have brains, intellect and feelings but obviously the male viewers are not interested in that.
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When i said that at 11 i understood issues around sex, i didnt mean that at that age it would have been ok for me to have sex; because of course it wasnt. I also said i wasnt excusing this film in the slightest.

I understand what the film was trying to do but agree the way they went about it, filmed it & marketed it was totally wrong. They could have done the same dance scene but totally toned it down- it would have still got the same message across.

It appears that the director has sacrificed her young actors for the sake of her "cause".

Who financed and produced the film?

Is a very good point. Because all very well and good saying a Muslim immigrant Senegalese lady directed it.. but who actually paid for it.

"I got frustrated with what I saw all over Twitter and needed to vent." is exactly why I don't go on twitter.

The clip is abhorrent, but I'm not going to sit in judgement of the film, the director, Netflix or anyone else, as I haven't seen the whole film, and I'm probably not likely to.

If the directors intent was to raise awareness and generate discussion, then maybe it's having some positive effect. Although perhaps not on the highly self-righteous and judgmental mumsnet boards.

I'm sure it's having a very positive effect on other internet discussion boards. Ones filled with men who enjoy watching overly sexualised kids being exploited to "raise awareness". I wonder how those young actors will look back and view what he were used for in 5/10 years time? Because I bet there will still be a shit tonne of child, especially girl, sexual exploitation going on.

I've never watched a rape or strangulation video on Pornhub but I make no excuses for judging the scum who post it, those who provide the platform for it to happen and those who get off on it, regardless of what sex they are.

If we accept and make excuses for tv like this we're adding to the problem.

The clips are repulsive, the young girls in the film have been exploited, no idea why their parents allowed them to do the film.

‘Although perhaps not on the highly self-righteous and judgmental mumsnet boards.’

I am completely okay with mums being judgemental about paedophilia.

I’ve not seen the film so can’t comment. I suppose it’s portrayed in that way to get a shock reaction/ make you think. From the description it makes me think of the film Little Miss Sunshine. The movie about little girl who joined the world of child beauty pageants and had some pretty inappropriate dance moves to some inappropriate lyrics. It made the point nicely.

rape or strangulation videos on Pornhub are hardly comparable. Films depict things we don't like all the time, rape, torture, murder. What would you do, censor this movie?

My DD is 6 months old so I'm very new to being 'mum' and maybe I'm sensitive but it upsets me.

I agree the film is disturbing, but I really hate this view that you feel things more because you're a mum and therefore it's more upsetting, OP. Don't do that.

In mainstream films, the rape and torture are pretend. In this film, those are genuinely 11 year old girls genuinely carrying out those sexualised movements. It isn’t pretend. Yes I think it should be censored.

And there are strict censorship rules about how rape is depicted in films anyway.

It is a mainstream film, and they're acting.

It's not even a documentary, that's what's bad. It's a directed film.

This is it. The director may have had good intentions however has produced a piece of drama that explicitly shows girls doing this. It could have been done in other ways without actually having the girls perform this way.

What does it matter that there is a message in this movie? If you are arguing that this movie was made to make people be uncomfortable and think, you are missing the audience of those who just got a well produced dream of being able to watch girls dancing in highly sexualised routines or to simulate sex acts or poses on mainstream media. Or do you honestly believe that portraying girls performing this way on camera ‘to prove a point’ is fine and anyone disagreeing is just missing the point of why it is sooooo powerful and we should ignore the fact that it directly appeals to those whose preferences in content is for underage girls.

Yes, they are acting, but they really are eleven year old girls doing a soft porn dance for the viewer’s entertainment. The viewer being the person watching the film. When people are raped in films, they are not really being raped. Nobody actually puts a penis in someone else’s orifice on camera. Nobody is genuinely being waterboarded on camera. Can you not understand the difference between when something is really happening and when it is pretend?

Regardless of the intentions of the filmmakers (which I’m sure were good) this is going to be watched by dodgy sorts, isn’t it? Which raises some ethical questions about the young actresses.

I was making the point you don't need to watch repulsive film making to know it's wrong. And I think if not comparable both things are part of the same bigger picture. Our girls are not objects. Films like this, to the audience someone is trying to educate, will still believe they're objects. So the motives are all bollocks really.

And no I wouldn't censor it but those involved should be called out. I'm wondering if this film is acceptable what isn't? How young is too young?

kind of hard to act dancing without dancing. The director's whole point is that this happens in society for real. That's what we should be outraged about, and I think they've evidently done a pretty good job of drawing attention to the subject. But go ahead, ban the movie, put your fingers back in your ears, go back to being comfortable.

It's not ok.
Because it is being shown on a mainstream network it is being "normalised" which means that males can watch it and tell themselves and each other it is ok to watch children being sexual.
It also fits with the peodophile's belief thar the child actually "wants" sex.

I had to click off I found it disturbing

“kind of hard to act dancing without dancing. The director's whole point is that this happens in society for real. That's what we should be outraged about, and I think they've evidently done a pretty good job of drawing attention to the subject. But go ahead, ban the movie, put your fingers back in your ears, go back to being comfortable.”

How would you feel if, as an adult, you realised you had been in a film as a child which was watched in large part by paedophiles? I think it would mess me up, and make me wonder wtf my parents were doing.

From someone who has seen it.

everytime a viwer watches the film Netflix will believe they were right to show it.
It's a success.
Don't watch the actual film that is playing into Netflix's success in showing it.
I need to find a petition to sign. I have 4 granddaughters and I feel sick.

kind of hard to act dancing without dancing. The director's whole point is that this happens in society for real.’

Yes. She, the director, has made the most sexualised recording of 11 year old children that most people on this thread have ever seen. She is the one doing this in society for real.

‘ That's what we should be outraged about, and I think they've evidently done a pretty good job of drawing attention to the subject. But go ahead, ban the movie, put your fingers back in your ears, go back to being comfortable.’

I’ve been a feminist for thirty years. I’ve worked with victims of sexual abuse. I have a teen daughter who is a dancer. I am not unaware of the issues. I don’t need someone to sexually exploit a group of eleven year olds to ‘start a conversation.’ We are already socially in a massive conversation about this stuff - the me too movement, safeguarding of children.

There are plenty of excellent posts on this thread by posters familiar with these issues.

But apparently that’s too complicated for some people. They can only fully understand the issue by watching a twerking eleven year old rubbing her crotch.

Yes, of course that is why they are watching. To better understand. Hiding in plain sight.

@Stripesgalore

Also, should this thread have a trigger warning, or at least the link?

A trigger warning for what, exactly?