To ask if there's something I'm missing about the allegedly "controversial" Diversity performance

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Diversity performed on Britain's Got Talent, a performance which incorporated a message about BLM. Their performance, as usual, was incredible and sent out some great messages. The video is below.

It's had 10,000 complaints. Why?! am I missing something? Did someone's nipple pop out or something? What is the basis of people's complaints? The only reason I can think is that some people (probably because they're part of the problem) don't like it when others point out that there's racism in the world? Boo hoo to them

-Unlikely to have experienced prejudice because he was head boy, wow, I am genuinely amazed by that batshit statement'

Head boy at a private school doesn't scream oppression and discrimination to me? Do educate me, I'm all ears.

@GetOffYourHighHorse

Is that really truly what you believe? Or are you trolling us to be controversial and get a rise out of people?

I went to school (naice posh all girls) with someone BAME who I now work with and became a doctor. She is very clever and lovely and her parents were well off. She still experienced racism. And she still does. None of what she has or achieved cancels out racism. She has had a much tougher time than a white counterpart to get where she wanted to be and gain respect for it. I did less well than her, but it was much easier for me - I’m white and that’s a better privilege than money.

And I feel sorry for you too that you seem to be under that impression that money = racism doesn’t happen. Your ignorance is a heavier burden on everyone else, this is why people say ‘educate yourself’

footballers still experience racism when they play games. Their money and fame and talent doesn’t protect them from that.

@GetOffYourHighHorse

'How on earth can you comment on what a BAME person may or may not have experienced in their life, purely based on the fact they became successful as young adults (not as children). Is it possible to avoid racism with money? With fame? I gather you have personally spoken with the group'

Banjo had a privileged childhood, he went to a private school, was head boy which doesn't suggest he experienced any prejudice. Now he of course can still dance about the racism others experience but it's as palatable as Jacob Rees Mogg doing a dance about poverty.

Wow! Peak ignorance. Can people who go to private school not experience racism?

@GetOffYourHighHorse And, FYI, even if he didn't experience racism himself (unlikely) doesn't mean he can't speak out about it.

If you actually genuinely want to be educated then listen to people?

To get a position as head boy means that Ashley probably worked very hard to get there, was well behaved and respected. This is a great reflection on the type of person he may be to be honest.

He may have gone to a good school that didn’t tolerate racism. But that doesn’t mean he didn’t experience it socially, outside of school, inside school, as a young man, in the work place. He just worked hard despite racism and did really well. He may have faced a load of challenges his white counterparts didn’t, and you have no way of knowing his experience and how it affected him. Or any of the other members of Diversity for that matter

Wrong platform. The world is going into free fall currently - there’s literally crap happening everywhere. I turn to TV entertainment shows as escapism from the crap. I don’t want politics or controversy when I switch onto these shows. I just want light relief and something I can just sit down and watch with my DCs. BGT is the wrong platform for this type of politicising.

I don’t want politics or controversy when I switch onto these shows.

I’m sorry that black people exist and ruin your TV viewing.

All these people too who can’t use their TV remotes to escape all the black people being controversial and disturbing their mind numbing evening

'And, FYI, even if he didn't experience racism himself (unlikely) doesn't mean he can't speak out about '

Of course he can speak about it. Anyway, for the trillionth time it's recreating the scene of a man's horrific death in the US that is the issue. People are allowed to object to that.

simonjt stupid comment, deliberately missing the point I’m making. It wasn’t about black peoples being on the show. You do know Alisha Dixon is a permanent fixture on BGT? There’s a place for politics and bad news, and BGT isn’t the platform for either. So yes, when these topics are introduced into a light entertainment show, it does spoil my viewing.

But don’t you think that it is privileged, first world and pretty degrading to this issue to complain that it spoilt your viewing for a few minutes? Isn’t the point that these things are uncomfortable to confront, no one likes them. Why is your viewing pleasure more important than a real world issue? No one is happy about BLM or violent deaths. You aren’t supposed to be happy and excited about it. And if you purposefully avoid it, how will you ever learn about it?

Soyes, when these topics are introduced into a light entertainment show, it does spoil my viewing.

You poor thing.

Everyone saying “ugh I don’t want to be preached at when I watch telly”... can you not see that is the absolute epitome of privilege? To be able to just switch off from it and not want it invading your nice, quiet, relaxing time?

There’s a place for politics and bad news, and BGT isn’t the platform for either. So yes, when these topics are introduced into a light entertainment show, it does spoil my viewing

Interested to hear what you though of the kids preaching about humans destroying our world. Pretty bad news really.

And what about the choir for families of missing people. Doesn't get much worse news than a missing loved one.

Poor, poor posters, facing these unpalatable things beamed from your TV nightly. It's a wonder you cope.

Anyway, for the trillionth time it's recreating the scene of a man's horrific death in the US that is the issue.

I thought the issue was that it said Black Lives Matter and that made some people think that Diversity want to overthrow the government. Make your mind up.

But GOYHH (and sock defender!), seriously, when almost every poster is telling you that your posts are worrying, doesn’t that tell you anything at all? Even your comment that your family’s BAME partners were “all very welcome” was patronising. Would you have said that white boyfriends and girlfriends were “very welcome” in the same way?

As for Jilly and her defending the right for people to say the indefensible, that was like reading a Piers Morgan tweet!

You know your kids are going to learn much worse in school don’t you. They will probably learn about Emmet Till

I think BLM would be better focusing their attentions on the institutions that nurture and promote racism rather than pretending the vast majority of white people are responsible. Black people also kill a hell of a lot of fellow black people, (or rather black men do) and if you haven't seen When They See Us, it clearly shows black police officers going along with the stitch up. Whether to protect their jobs or whatever, or because they simply didn't care - it's never explained.

What institutions are those, RuffleCrow?

Of course he can speak about it. Anyway, for the trillionth time it's recreating the scene of a man's horrific death in the US that is the issue
That's what you're claiming the issue is, but you've also:
Denied systemic racism exists
Pondered over whether they volunteer to sort gang culture in 'their' community
Said they shouldn't be using their platform
Suggested they're attention seeking

They're not the views of someone interested in an artistic critique.
They're the views of someone who claims racism isn't a problem and thinks BAME people should get back in their boxes and only talk about racism if they have no platform and no audience.

Love to know what the right platform is? Tucked away on BBC4 at one in the morning so that people don’t have to cope with having their innate racism challenged?

@LolaSkoda

You also forgot: that this is something new that has only happened in 2020 and is some kind of annoying bandwagon everyone is jumping on

I think BLM would be better focusing their attentions on the institutions that nurture and promote racism rather than pretending the vast majority of white people are responsible.
Really? You do know racism encompasses a touch more than murder by law enforcement don’t you? I’d try and break it to you gently but I’m not sure it’s possible- it looks rather like white peoples really are respond for racism.

Menora
And that all lives matter, obviously.

Don’t forget that being privileged means that Diversity won’t have experienced racism so really can’t talk about it.