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Feel so sad for my kids

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Ridiculousmummy · 10/09/2020 13:21

NC as I know I’m being totally ridiculous but I can’t help it!
I have 2 DC (4 and 3yo). Both have just started a new school on Monday, one in reception, the other in nursery. They have both attended private nursery from being babies and are confident, friendly children. They have always been well liked by staff, other parents and children (not boasting, just that it’s relevant to what I’m about to say).
They both went in to school on the first day with beaming smiles despite having never met any of the staff or other children and not knowing the building.
When they came out on the first day, both were happy, although they said they hadn’t played with anyone (fair enough, it was their first day). On the second day, they again went in smiling, DC1’s teacher made a remark about him always looking so happy (lovely!) When they came out, DC2 said she was a bit sad as none of the other boys and girls would play with her. When we walked back past DC1’s class on the way out, he saw his teacher still outside. He ran up and gave her a hug, she looked a bit taken aback but dealt with it with good grace, DC2 then ran over to say hello and teacher remarked ‘oh, who are you?’ (Fair enough, they have lots of new faces to learn)
Day 3, both went in smiling. When they came out, DC1 spotted 2 girls from his class while we were waiting for DC2 to come out. He said excitedly ‘look mummy, those girls are in my class!’ and ran over to them, giving one of them a hug. She pushed him away. I explained to DC1 that not all children like to be hugged and suggested that maybe he should try asking them to play instead. So he ran over to them and asked if they wanted him to make them an ice cream (as there was a pretend ice cream shop on the yard). They ignored him and ran off. He came back over to me, looking a little sad, and said ‘they don’t want an ice cream’. I explained that maybe they just didn’t want to play right now. DC2 came out, happy, but when asked how her day had been, she replied that she had been a bit sad because none of the children would play with her. I said I’m sure she had been playing with other children in the day and she replied no, she asked but nobody wanted to play. I assumed she was just being an absent minded 3 year old.
Then this morning, day 4. Again, both went in smiling. We have an early drop off for DC1 and then wait 30 mins for DC2 to go in. We were the first to arrive at DC2’s classroom. About 5 minutes later, another child arrived. DC2 got excited, saying ‘Hi Charlie!’ (not real name). The 2 children started playing with each other, chasing each other around and giggling together. This went on for about 5 mins, until other children started to arrive. Another little boy wanted to join in the game and so they carried on playing, until the second little boy told DC2 she couldn’t play anymore. DC2 came over to me looking sad, saying she liked little boy 1 but she didn’t like little boy 2 as he wouldn’t let her play anymore. I explained to her that it wasn’t kind to say that and she couldn’t be little boy 1’s only friend. There were other children waiting by that point, so I encouraged her to go and ask another child if they wanted to play. She skipped off happily to do this, approached another little girl and said ‘Hi Fiona, do you want to play with me?’ only to get the answer ‘no’.
I feel like everything they are trying is getting shoved back in their faces. Are all children this age so unfriendly? I wasn’t expecting this at all. I know I should just be happy they’re going in smiling as they must enjoy it when they’re there, but as an adult my heart is breaking for them because they’re trying so hard to be accepted and getting nowhere! The whole school environment just seems so impersonal and unfriendly, which I was expecting to a certain extent, but certainly not from 3 and 4 year old children!
I guess I’m just missing our lovely old nursery 😭
Please can somebody knock some sense into me? 🤣

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Liverbird77 · 10/09/2020 13:36

Your children sound really lovely. I hope they find their tribe soon. I would be upset about this too

Ridiculousmummy · 10/09/2020 13:38

@Liverbird77 thank you so much 😭
I was starting to worry that it was us!

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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 10/09/2020 13:38

It honestly just takes time.

DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult · 10/09/2020 13:41

At that age some of them would have been in groups together and their parents may be friends too so they will migrate to the children they already know.

It does take time.

They sound adorable so will make friends pretty quickly Flowers

Candyapple49 · 10/09/2020 13:42

I could have written this myself - Ds had just started reception after being happy and confident at private nursery . It’s hard to watch , but I know that’s just a matter of time until they all click into place x

DoubleDolphin · 10/09/2020 13:44

Honestly, you are reading too much into this. All my kids told me from time to time they had noone to play with, but both I, and their teachers had seen them happily playing. Once, my child said hed been on his own all playtime, but I'd been outside watching and he had been playing with loads of kids. When I mentioned that he said "oh yeah, I forgot about that".

Dinosforall · 10/09/2020 13:46

DS1 has also just started reception and would probably be taken aback if a child he didn't know ran up and and hugged him. He can take time to warm up even though he had lovely friends at nursery (whom he did hug).

StayClosePooky · 10/09/2020 13:48

Don't forget that we've just spent 6 months telling our children not to go beat people, 6 months of them over hearing our discussion, 6 months of picking up on adults feeling uneasy about world events etc. It honestly will just take time. My DS has been the same this week at his new school as all the kids know each other (or it feels like). He seems okay but I do worry about him! It is difficult.

StayClosePooky · 10/09/2020 13:48

Not to go NEAR people, obviously. Our children shouldn't beat people either but I feel that does without saying Grin

Ridiculousmummy · 10/09/2020 13:49

Thank you all so much for your lovely responses, I think I must just be an emotional wreck this week! Rationally I know that it will take time but I also thought that children of these ages played with each other almost indiscriminately, so I wasn’t expecting any kind of exclusion until much later in life! You live and learn 🤣

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Ridiculousmummy · 10/09/2020 13:49

@DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult thank you 😊

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Ridiculousmummy · 10/09/2020 13:51

@Dinosforall I know, and to be fair to the little girl she did look a bit wary, which is why I explained to him that he should probably just talk to them! It’s just his way of letting people know he likes them, but I am well aware he needs to curb it a little in school 🤣

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Alongcameacat · 10/09/2020 13:52

I would be really upset about this too.
I’m sure in the classroom they are split into groups and the teacher ensures nobody is left out. The groups will then be switched around until they all get to know one another. Maybe have a word with the teacher too to out your mind at rest. Bear in mind too that some children are naturally shy and will be hesitant to play with others. It is new to them too. Your children sound lovely.

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 10/09/2020 13:52

I think a lot of parents let their kids be little assholes.

I was in the park after preschool this week and there were other kids from my DC preschool. I noticed how most of the parents didn't watch their kids interact and correct their social behaviours at all. Eg I will always watch mine (as you did OP) and rein in the sound kid tyrant behaviour with the standard "it's nice to let everybody play", "we dont take things off other kids, why dont you ask if you can take a turn next", "etc.

Many parents seem to just let their children leave others out and do nothing. Wtf is that?!

Ridiculousmummy · 10/09/2020 13:54

@StayClosePooky yes, I never considered that could be a factor actually, thanks 😊
My kids have been told that when they’re out and about but they’ve always been able to approach other children at nursery, I imagine for the children who haven’t been at nursery throughout it’s been a very different experience, so you could well be right.
That’s how it feels at this school too, as though everyone already knows everyone else and we’re trying to fit in somewhere! Hope your little boy settles in too 💐

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Seriouslyconfused3 · 10/09/2020 13:56

Honestly op it gets harder in my experience. The amount of tears we get over one dc being left out, having no friends etc it kills me- but, allegedly, is a normal part of growing up Sad

Ridiculousmummy · 10/09/2020 13:57

@NoIDontWatchLoveIsland honestly, that is what I was thinking this morning. No one else even talked to their kids at all, never mind spoke to them about being inclusive. They’re only 3, they still need lots of guidance on how to play and be kind! Thank you 😊

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Seriouslyconfused3 · 10/09/2020 13:58

Sorry I should have said- you will get used to it though. It tends to go in phases.

Ridiculousmummy · 10/09/2020 13:59

@Alongcameacat thank you 😊
I’m pretty sure they aren’t upset by anything going on in the classroom so you’re definitely right that they’re being encouraged to interact with each other. The kids all just seem so stand-offish and I don’t understand it, the children at nursery weren’t like that at all!

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Smallsteps88 · 10/09/2020 13:59

saying she liked little boy 1 but she didn’t like little boy 2 as he wouldn’t let her play anymore. I explained to her that it wasn’t kind to say that and she couldn’t be little boy 1’s only friend.

I’d have said “I’m not surprised you don’t like boy 2- he was mean to you. Go back and tell boy 2 he doesn’t get to decide who is allowed to play with boy 1.”

You basically told her she was wrong for not liking someone who was mean! She doesn’t have to be kind to mean people.

OhCaptain · 10/09/2020 14:01

I have put three dc through primary school and I can say with a reasonable amount of certainty that:

They will have more than likely been playing with kids during the day and they’ve either forgotten or it just hasn’t registered as important enough to tell you.

And there’ll be days and games that they will be told they can’t play by the very children that they’ll be playing with the day after.

I had to learn not to break my heart when I realised I was getting a VERY skewed version of things from mine at various times.

If they’re happy going in I’d take that as a win. And give it at least another couple of weeks before you panic.

Ridiculousmummy · 10/09/2020 14:01

@Smallsteps88 I think I was so taken aback that a 3 year old had said that, and I hoped that by explaining it to her like that, maybe one of the parents of the 2 boys would say something to them... but they didn’t!

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Stannisbaratheonsboxofmatches · 10/09/2020 14:02

I agree your children sound lovely.

I also agree it takes time, and kids can be warey of new people.

If you don’t get any luck soon, maybe have a word with the teacher, as they can do lots to promote inclusion.

Emeraldshamrock · 10/09/2020 14:02

Totally off topic are they allowed to hug in school. I know mine are suppose to keep a safe distance.
I wouldn't worry OP it is early days if they're social DC they'll be fine.
We are on the same week new school I've only noticed the younger ones of parent's who already know each -other gel.

AutumnLeavesStart · 10/09/2020 14:03

Tell your kids to stop hugging people FFS. They’re not supposed to be and some other kids will be very very unhappy with it having repeatedly been told how risky it is. That won’t be helping.

Other than that, it just takes time. You can’t worry too much about little snippets of interaction they have at that age, though it’s hard not to.