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To think that degrees mean less now than they did 20/30 years ago?

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SL11 · 09/09/2020 14:47

I got my degree 15 years ago from a former poly and got a high 1st. It was modular based and at the time I dont believe any credits were doubled or the lowest mark credits dropped or something like seems to happen a bit now. I know a bit as DD is soon to start Uni.
AiBU to think my degree is unofficially better than those gained in similar ranked Uni's in recent years? And on the flipside those gained by people in the 70s when 3 years worth of work was assessed in 12 exams and your final result was a average of those marks are unofficially better than mine?

Think employers think of this?

OP posts:
Miljea · 10/09/2020 20:10

@OwlBeThere

YABU. As someone who sat two degrees 25 years apart the more recent one was MUCH harder!

That's because you need to know 'how it works' today. What's expected from today's students is quite formulaic- note, I haven't said 'easier', but if there was 20 odd years between your degrees, the skills required from your earlier degree don't translate to your newer degree.

The young 'uns entering the newer courses are well versed in 'what is required', thus will find it easier than you.

It does not mean that today's degree is 'harder' just because you found it so.

Miljea · 10/09/2020 20:23

@User3627290

LOL I hope you have one of those ‘new’ degrees OP Talks of @User3627290**

Sorry to disappoint, but my first two degrees were a first class degree and masters with distinction obtained nearly 20 years ago from a prestigious RG university, and my second two are postgrad qualifications with distinction from a different RG Grin

And I’m not a troll. In fact I’m rarely one to pick on posters for their grammar, but I think that if OP is going to disparage the degrees of today, they ought to at least make sure the evidence of their allegedly superior education is beyond reproach.

Sorry, but you're on MN.

Any user4569874536547 name causes many of us to scroll on by...

ArtieFufkinPolymerRecords · 10/09/2020 20:24

@DonnaQuixotedelaManchester you still haven't explained what you meant by were you deluding yourself, but your later posts suggest you think there is something better about your PGCE because it was done at Oxford and you want people to know that's where you did it.
I don't think people care where their child's teacher did their PGCE, as long as they are a good teacher.

ArtieFufkinPolymerRecords · 10/09/2020 20:30

If someone says they studied at Oxford, why would you assume they meant undergraduate? How odd.

Not odd at all. If someone says when I was at Oxford, or Cambridge, or Warwick, or Durham or wherever, most people would assume that you mean when you were doing your degree at that university.

DonnaQuixotedelaManchester · 10/09/2020 20:30

I’m a little baffled by your post @ArtieFufkinPolymerRecords. I think I replied to your post quite clearly. And I am not sure any of the parents I have taught have known where any of the staff studied.

Stripesgalore · 10/09/2020 20:39

‘If someone says they studied at Oxford, why would you assume they meant undergraduate? How odd.

Not odd at all. If someone says when I was at Oxford, or Cambridge, or Warwick, or Durham or wherever, most people would assume that you mean when you were doing your degree at that university.‘

Just over half of all Oxford students are postgrads. So it’s irrational to assume that someone who studied at Oxford was doing an undergraduate degree.

abstractprojection · 10/09/2020 20:44

They’re worth less but because more people have them, rather then marking, units etc.

A good degree from a top university will always be worth a lot. But there are also a lot of industry recognised and certified courses which are very in demand but sometimes at less notable universities. For example mine is from the top uni in the country for this subject but is ranked very low because it has no research department.

The important thing is to be very clued up on what to study and where. Not all degrees are worth the same let alone the fees. And to remember that ultimately a degree is worth what you learnt!

DonnaQuixotedelaManchester · 10/09/2020 20:52

That should say ‘Parents of pupils I have taught’.

One of the things that does surprise me is when, if you mention studying there, the people who infer that you are showing off when it may just factually be the correct answer to a question. If you studied at Liverpool, for example and you were talking about something that happened in that time it would not be an issue.

DonnaQuixotedelaManchester · 10/09/2020 20:53

People that infer. Aargh!!! I am going to bed. I am too tired and clumsy to type.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 10/09/2020 22:11

For example mine is from the top uni in the country for this subject but is ranked very low because it has no research department.

This is exactly why I wondered if recruiters keep on top of this or if they just go with few they were told were best.

SpecialWGM · 10/09/2020 22:28

@CardsforKittens

I do know for a fact that classification tinkering goes on as I have a friend that works in a University.

And you say you have a first class degree?

What an awfully bitchy comment.
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