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Just had row with DH

82 replies

Bluepolkadots42 · 05/09/2020 22:36

Not even sure where to start but basically, after a relatively nice- albeit standard evening in- with DH- we had dinner and watched a few episodes of a series we are watching it quickly all turned to shit when I dared to mention that tomorrow, if the weather was nice and DD (2 yo) wanted to go out, DH might take her to the park (3 mins walk from our house). I felt DH poo-pooed the idea and said 'well you'll be down at 9 to take over' (at weekends we each take it in turns to lie in until 9). This morning I was up and in park with DD by 08.45 as it was such a lovely morning and she asked to go.
What annoyed me this evening is that DH very. very rarely EVER takes DD out on his own to do anything. The only thing he does semi regularly is take her to see his DPs on his day off in the week. And that doesn't happen weekly. It has long been a source of annoyance to me that on numerous mornings with DD during lockdown I will get up and out with her- be it for a walk or to park or even just to shops in car (which she also loves) and he will NEVER EVER have left the house with her before 9, if ever that day.
This evening when I started talking about it and how I wasn't askinghim to do anything I hadn't done myself this morning, he started telling me to 'shut up' and 'fuck off'- all standard responses from him (whether after a few beers or stone cold sober) when he is pissed off at the fact I am daring to level any criticism towards him. I then made it clear I objected to this response and felt it was immature and uncalled for and he started trying to patronise me e.g. 'yeh yeh yeh' ' ok whatever you say- you're the one going nuts right now'. Previously he has told me to 'fuck off' in front of our daughter (stone cold sober during day time) again, it has always been when I've dared to suggest he might clean the bathroom after shaving his entire beard all over the shop and doing a minimal, lacklustre and poor attempt at cleaning up or if I dare mention that his pissing off for 6 hours of a weekend day now and again so he can indulge in a hobby creates more domestic labour for me, and to ask when my trade off time will fall.
I am sick to death of it.
I've called him names tonight which I know has weakened my stance on the whole his position and reaction being immature- but I called him a chauvinistic pig, because this is what I feel his attitude is boiling down to. I've told him that EVERY time I ever dare say anything which is in anyway a criticism of him or things he does (today he washed the coffee pot so that it wasn't really washed and then leaked coffee granules all over our DD's crockery on draining board and rather than saying- oh you haven't done this fully can you di it again? I instead muttered something about 'oh I think this might need to go in dishwasher instead' and shoved it in myself.) it 85% of time ends up in him being pissed off and angry at me, acting like a stroppy teenager OR he gives me the silent treatment for 24-36 hours.
I'm tired of it.
I've recently gone back to work and so cannot accommodate his immature responses and incompetent and lazy attempts at cleaning anymore and I've had it with NEVER being able to have a sensible conversation about this type of thing. AIBU? Should I just put up and shut up?
I said to him tonight that if I shared a kitchen with him at work I would be slagging him off behind his back because he is so grotty and untidy etc. so why the hell am I trying to put up with it at home.???

OP posts:
MistyGreenAndBlue · 06/09/2020 00:21

@cdtaylornats

You've trained him. Whenever he does something you see as wrong you fix it to your standard. This means he has decided that you are never happy so there is no point in trying.
Balls! He's an idle tosspot and abusive with it.

But... I guess to some people a woman's place is in the wrong.

DishingOutDone · 06/09/2020 00:26

This means he has decided that you are never happy so there is no point in trying - so its win win for him. He does it wrong, you are "never happy" so then he gets to not do it.

jessstan2 · 06/09/2020 00:29

LTB

You and your daughter deserve better.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 06/09/2020 00:36

No way would I be up and out before 9am on a Saturday, so for that part alone yabu. The rest yanbu, he's a prick

HarrisonFived · 06/09/2020 00:53

He views parenting as a chore. Something to bargain over to make sure he does as little as possible.

I have a lot of experience of that. It would be hypocritical for me to say you must leave him because of this, but I can certainly say that by seeing it written down by a stranger, it makes me realise how sad it really is. He sees his time with your DD as a shift that he's waiting to be relieved from. He doesn't view housework as something necessary that he needs to keep running, he views it as something he's told to do and tries to find ways to wriggle out of it.

I don't think your anger is going to disappear. It's going to get worse and worse. You've realised how things are now. And things need to change. He needs to step up.

Italiangreyhound · 06/09/2020 00:55

He sounds horrible. I'm so sorry. I think you are worth more than this.

DopamineHits · 06/09/2020 01:43

The example you gave is a bit odd, because I wouldn't be impressed if my DP suggested I take (a fictional) 2 year old to the park at 9am on a Sunday.

But in general of course he should pull his weight, and no you shouldn't have to put up with it. I think you should tell him that the next time he tells you to fuck off in front of his child will be the last time. You can't subject her to seeing that behaviour, it will model her future relationships. You deserve better. And I suspect he manages a work life and friends and seeing his parents without telling any of them to fuck off. He can find the same energy for you.

ameliapig22 · 06/09/2020 02:38

Very unreasonable of your Husband. Teach him some manners

differentnameforthis · 06/09/2020 02:49

To be fair, does it actually matter if he takes your dd to the park the day after she has already been? I think telling him what he needs to do with her is controlling, and it would irritate me if someone was telling me what to do on my day off

However, both of you swearing at each other, you calling him names and never seemingly happy with his effort with the chores seems very draining for you all, to be fair.

It does sound like you criticise him a lot, and I don't understand why you told him about the slagging off thing... you sound quite passive aggressive.

differentnameforthis · 06/09/2020 02:52

And on reading the others posts, I can see I must have missed part of your post.. the name calling etc... he isn't actually a good catch, and you seem like you are starting to resent him.

rvby · 06/09/2020 02:58

He verbally abuses you in front of your toddler dd. Not sure why you're in this relationship tbh.

If you insist on staying in it, make sure you're saving for dds therapy.

Catsup · 06/09/2020 03:40

He's a wanker! No more or less. I'd imagine when he takes Dd to his parents he can manage to act like he's in the running for the parent of the year award, vs leaving her to scream in a wet nappy and looking like an absoulute cunt? He can pull his shit together 'when it counts' 🙄 because its not left to you to 'parent' and he's far more fussed about looking like a great man than actually acting like one. None of that actually helps you beyond stating if he doesn't get his shit together you'll be leaving with DS. And frankly in this scenario I'd be informing his parents exactly what kind of a useless fuckwit he is too, as he's clearly trying to run up their arses.

VettiyaIruken · 06/09/2020 04:38

"So why the hell am I trying to put up with it at home.???"

Good question. Why are you trying to put up with it? And how many more years will you try to put up with it?

TitsOutForHarambe · 06/09/2020 05:25

Hmm... sounds like you nit pick and I would certainly raise my eyebrows at DH kindly "suggesting" that I take the DC out to the park pre 9am.

However, aside from that, why are you with this man? He sounds like a dickhead. It shouldn't be normal for your partner to tell you to fuck off - it sounds like he's doing this regularly. This seems to be one of those instances where you life would be much easier and happier without him in it...

REignbow · 06/09/2020 06:43

I agree with PP that this is merely the tip of the ice berg.

Silent treatment and being verbally aggressive because you have expressed an opinion on his lack lustre cleaning/time off doing his hobby and non parenting of your child is abusive.

He does it, so that you’ll never broach it again with him and will walk on eggshells.

He sees all the domestic and parenting responsibilities as yours alone and he gets angry because you are rightly telling him that it is not.

You have a choice here. Stay and it will get worse or leave with and protect your daughter.

He’s an arsehole.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 06/09/2020 07:05

Just to add, my husband worked last night, it’s his lie in day today. Our two and three year olds are going to be fed, dressed and in the park by 9am because I want my husband to have a lovely quiet morning, because they both have a mid day nap so the earlier we can get out the more time they have at the park and because I want to make the most of the nice weather while we have it.
A few weekends ago, I was very ill and my husband had them up and out of the house by 9am both days for the same reasons.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask for the same once in a while. It’s not like you demand it every week. Two year olds get up so early anyway. Why waste that time?

FippertyGibbett · 06/09/2020 07:13

I’m a lot further along than you in married life and all I will say is that he won’t change, so you either put up with it for the rest of your married life or you split.
And there is no guarantee that a new man will be any better.

Adding more children will add to your work load, not his.
I have higher standards in cleanliness and housework than my DH so, reluctantly, I just go over it again as moaning or suggesting gets me no
where.
I can assure you that resentment will set in.
But I will add that the way he speaks to you is unacceptable and you need to see that your DD will learn from this situation.

NoParticularPattern · 06/09/2020 07:17

Ok so the 9am thing is a bit of a red herring. I suspect it’s a final straw situation rather than the actual heart of the problem. Stop putting up with it. He never has to do anything properly because he knows you’ll fix it and he gets a handy excuse to tell you how you’re a nag/always complaining. He’s a lazy dickhead and it’s not you who has made him that way or caused any of this. But I suspect he won’t ever admit that, he will tell you it’s because he can’t ever do anything right, you’re always on his case, doing his head in etc etc etc. When the truth is that he’d be exactly the same if he lived alone, he just wouldn’t have to excuse his behaviour to anyone or have you to blame. You should never put up with abusive behaviour from anyone, much less someone who is supposedly someone you love and who loves you back. LTB

lovelemoncurd · 06/09/2020 07:21

People in healthy relationships don't swear at each other. It's abusive. Leave the lazy foul mouthed shit.

Heronsnest · 06/09/2020 07:38

It’s not going to get any better OP.
If you have more children with this man-child you’ll end up even more resentful and exhausted.
I know this because I was you 30 years ago!

Friendsoftheearth · 06/09/2020 07:39

I could never accept any man swearing at me in front of a small child. It would be over for me just based on that.

Friendsoftheearth · 06/09/2020 07:39

He is no respect for you whatsoever.

Friendsoftheearth · 06/09/2020 07:39

Has!

MsKeats · 06/09/2020 07:43

You poor thing. That sounds so awful, it sounds like you are walking around on eggshells. Only you can decide when you have had enough. Me -I would be mentally putting in boundaries as I wouldn't want my daughter to see it. I would be trying to talk to him -with or without a counsellor.Then I would be looking at my options. With children it is not necessarily easy to just leave -but the question is -would you rather leave alone -think in the house with your daughter, TV on and him not there -day in and day out. Does that thought make you happy or sad?

LilyLongJohn · 06/09/2020 07:44

Yanbu in the slightest, tbh if my dh ever told me to fuck off I'd be packing him a bag. I know it's only words, but it's so disrespectful, would he tell his boss, friends or parents to fuck off if he was upset with them? I very much doubt it! It just shows a complete lack of respect. Add that to the fact he won't pull his weight in the house or when parenting his child. Meh what exactly does he add to your life?

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