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Marus Rushford - AIBU?

381 replies

Pr1mr0se · 02/09/2020 07:57

it's admirable that he feels he can raise the topic of school meals and poverty and the campaign seems to be growing wings with the food alliance HOWEVER AIBU to think that given that he is an extremely wealthy footballer with many footballer contacts in similar positions that they should be putting their money where their mouth is, so to speak too?

OP posts:
Gilly12345 · 02/09/2020 10:41

I think Marcus Rashford is a kind and caring individual but the government is not here to feed the country's children, that job is ours as parents, I do appreciate that people have lost jobs with the COV ID pandemic but they can claim universal credit and the welfare state is there if you need it, people have to be accountable and stop breeding and manage their own budgets and bills.

BubblyBarbara · 02/09/2020 10:44

Even if he's not spending his money (and I believe he is), he is "spending" his fame, privilege, name, and so forth to do something good. He undoubtedly pays way more in tax each year than most of us do in our entire lives as well.

SBTLove · 02/09/2020 10:44

He does donate personally ie 300 xmas boxes, donated to charities in St Kitts.
Lending his name and support to charities is priceless as he is a young star that in itself encourages young ppl to support charity.
OP do you give time and money to charity?

KaptainKaveman · 02/09/2020 10:45

Well to cut the OP some slack, they can't spell '"privileged" either, so perhaps the inability to get MR's name right wasn't deliberate, more a manifestation of limited intellect.

unmarkedbythat · 02/09/2020 10:45

@Gilly12345

I think Marcus Rashford is a kind and caring individual but the government is not here to feed the country's children, that job is ours as parents, I do appreciate that people have lost jobs with the COV ID pandemic but they can claim universal credit and the welfare state is there if you need it, people have to be accountable and stop breeding and manage their own budgets and bills.
What do you see as the role of government?
MsSquiz · 02/09/2020 10:46

Marcus Rashford

It's very arrogant to get someone's name wrong, especially as you just want to bitch about him

KaptainKaveman · 02/09/2020 10:46

Personally I think Marcus Rashford is terrific.

SBTLove · 02/09/2020 10:47

@Gilly12345
You do know some UC claims can take up to 8 weeks? How do you feed your child then?
You have the wrong attitude, school meals are invaluable, often children in poorer homes can have parents with MH, addictions any number of issues which means grocery shopping isn’t a priority, therefore school
meals give them at least one meal a day.
Nasty comment from you.

StrawberrySquash · 02/09/2020 10:48

It is not the responsibility of wealthy individuals to pay for food programmes for children, it is the responsibility of the government.
This. Obviously the wealthy should pay their taxes, but making sure everyone is fed should not be left to the whims of the wealthy. It should be properly coordinated by government.

StrawberrySquash · 02/09/2020 10:48

Sorry, meant to put that first line in quotes.

BIWI · 02/09/2020 10:51

Wow - this thread is bringing out all the nasties, isn't it? Where's that spreadsheet when you need it ...

goingtotown · 02/09/2020 10:52

Pr1mr0se AIBU yes you are by not spelling his name correctly.

RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 02/09/2020 10:54

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Sparklesocks · 02/09/2020 10:55

It’s a damning indictment of our country that private individuals have to plug the gaps where the government fails to support our most vulnerable.

netflixismysidehustle · 02/09/2020 10:55

www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/utd-podcast-marcus-rashford-talks-about-charity-work-during-pandemic

£20 million 👏 from individuals and companies like the supermarkets.

Many children were forgotten during lockdown and Rashford was one of the few who campaigned for children ime. As a parenting site we should be calling for more champions of children not less

We don't know how much he gives but I suspect that as a child who was on FSM, it's not zero.

Btw it's very rude to get his name wrong.

ladymuck111 · 02/09/2020 10:57

Those saying it's the parents responsibility to feed their kids. Yes it is but there are a million different reasons why as a parent you can end up in the position of needing a FSM. My abusive partner left me in such an anxious state I couldn't even go to work, then he left me. It's taken me a long time to be able to regain some confidence and get over what I went through. Unfortunately I needed government assistance that I had never needed in my life.

anniegun · 02/09/2020 10:57

I think he is doing a great job , using his own personal experience to highlight how cruel and uncaring this govt has been when dealing with poor people. Great work and a terrific example of a successful footballer using that position for a good cause

netflixismysidehustle · 02/09/2020 10:57

There were severe food shortages and food prices have increased sharply as a result of the pandemic. Rashford could have holed up in his mansion and lived it up but helped make a difference.

geekone · 02/09/2020 10:58

@Ted27

How do you know he isn't ?
Exactly this 👆🏻
JamieLeeCurtains · 02/09/2020 10:59

I bet the govt SPADs are genuinely worried about the 'optics' of this one. Rashford is playing a blinder.

What does the govt do - slap him down? Terrible look - he's a much-admired young black man who knows what he's talking about. Agree with everything he says? What the hell will he ask for next - actual policies on poverty?

This government's style is to plant negative stories with tame journalists and feed crap to the gullible via the internet, rather than engage honestly and head-on, so I'm a little cynical about threads like this.

I'm so cynical these days that I can even imagine a misspelling being deliberate to see how many people recognise the name despite it not actually being his name. ( What's this guy's fucking recognisability factor? screamed Dominic, frothing into his own latte ...)

Or maybe I've been watching too many repeats of The Thick Of It during lockdown.

But the Tories have got a real problem here, while they're eyeing up pensions.

Sparklesocks · 02/09/2020 11:00

It’s a lose lose situation really.
If you’re wealthy and you donate your own money to charity people say it’s not enough, or that you’re virtue signalling and want praise.

So if you try to set up foundations or instigate actual change on a national/systemic level (after all, there’s only so much individuals can do) then you’re criticised for not putting your hand in your own pocket enough.

Not really sure what the answer is as there will always be people moaning that it’s not enough.

netflixismysidehustle · 02/09/2020 11:00

We, no. It’s the responsibility of THEIR PARENTS!!! FFS do people actually believe the government’s job is to feed the offspring of able bodied people without caveat?

How many children were fed thanks to furlough?
Or is it just the parents with children on FSM, unemployed and self employed that are to be left starving?

WhatamessIgotinto · 02/09/2020 11:00

@RunningAwaywiththeCircus

It is not the responsibility of wealthy individuals to pay for food programmes for children, it is the responsibility of the government.

We, no. It’s the responsibility of THEIR PARENTS!!! FFS do people actually believe the government’s job is to feed the offspring of able bodied people without caveat?

What if those parents can't (redundancy, accident, illness, addiction) feed their children properly @RunningAwaywiththeCircus. Or if they are just shit parents? What, genuinely, do you think should happen to those children in those circumstances. Given that, as an example, a child is not responsible if a parent loses their job or becomes unwell - what do you think should happen?
CatNoBag · 02/09/2020 11:02

A lot of footballers did give a lot of money at the start of the pandemic (www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/08/premier-league-captains-close-to-launching-charitable-fund-after-talks), something they were in the process of organising whilst being lambasted in the media along the same lines as your post. I wonder how much of his funds millionaire Jacob Rees Mogg has given to charity over the last few months (or in fact any other members of the privately very well off Government and their mates who have been awarded extremely profitable contracts by the Government), or Alan Sugar, or Richard Branson (who's received plenty of public funds to keep his business afloat whilst still holding on to his own personal luxury assets). Why pick on young footballers? Especially ones like Marcus Rashford who less than a decade ago was living the exact type of life he's trying to help others avoid.

ReggieCat · 02/09/2020 11:13

You have no idea if he gives his own money or not. He says nothing about making his own donations, so ignorant people slate him for not giving.

If he made it public that he does donate, those same people would accuse him of being a publicity whore.

And the OP is the sort of ignorant person who can't even be bothered calling him by his correct name. How fucking rude!