Marus Rushford - AIBU?

[Pr1mr0se]

it's admirable that he feels he can raise the topic of school meals and poverty and the campaign seems to be growing wings with the food alliance HOWEVER AIBU to think that given that he is an extremely wealthy footballer with many footballer contacts in similar positions that they should be putting their money where their mouth is, so to speak too?

The first part of that should indicate that it's a quote from a PP. I thought it would automatically be highlighted.

Yes I think you are BU, OP.

We don't know that Marcus isn't donating his own cash to charitable causes but he has done infinitely more by illuminating this as a moral and policy issue and motivating the government to act long term.

It's not for one young man from an impoverished background, or even a thousand like him, to subsidise children's meals and other needs. It's for the government to make sure that these are prioritised, and I would say that more importantly to ensure that even higher earners (an average footballer makes nothing compared to sat a huge property or tech tycoon over a lifetime but they will get away with tax evasion easier as their earnings aren't so public) are paying their contributions to help fund solutions to these issues.

He pays his taxes, so that's an awful lot of money going into the pot already. It shouldn't be the job of individuals or even charities to provide for basic human needs.

I agree. It’s the responsibility of the parents to make sure their kids are fed- not the rest of the taxpayer population. If he is so blasé about spending tax pounds he should dig deep into his own pockets.

The benefit system should be a safety net to help those who are struggling. It should not be the state and the tax payer having to supplement inadequate wages paid by cheapskate companies who want to keep people on part time work so they can duck the expenses of pensions etc that follow proper jobs it’s up to the government to keep companies in check, to have laws that protect workers etc. If they choose to bow to big businesses then they can’t be surprised to pick up the bill

@Grannyspecsandslippers

You got his name wrong... he single handedly got the government to do a u-turn on meals for the poorest kids over the summer. He’s using his position and influence to highlight something he has experienced which will help many, many poorer kids. It’s not up to him to pay to ensure children in our country don’t go hungry, that’s what we have a government for. Unfortunately our government is made up of over privileged toffs who’ve never experienced any kind of hardship.

Well said. You only have to look at the way the Government are treating disabled people to see how much they care for the more disadvantaged members of society.

YABVU
This young man could have kept his mouth shut. He could have enjoyed his millions and written the odd cheque to charity to make himself feel better.
However, he put his head above the parapet and influenced change on a national level.
That is admirable particularly given the fact that he is only in his early twenties.

The likelihood is that he has probably given money to charity, but doesn’t make a song and dance about it.

Op, your post was not well thought out and was quite nasty imo.

It's the responsibility of parents to feed their children.

@AnneLovesGilbert

You think he should be paying, out of his own pocket, because the government doesn’t give a shit that millions of children are living in food poverty?

Have a little think about that. We live in the 6th richest nation in the world. Should poor people be relying on charity rather than the state that we all prop up with taxes, and poorer people pay taxes too every time they buy something, stop yabbering on about ending inequality and fucking do something?

Perfectly put. Totally agree.

@user1493494961

It's the responsibility of parents to feed their children.

And if the parents don't earn enough, are sick/disabled, have lost their jobs?

@cocopops

I agree. It’s the responsibility of the parents to make sure their kids are fed- not the rest of the taxpayer population. If he is so blasé about spending tax pounds he should dig deep into his own pockets.

Pretty sure he pays more tax than your average citizen...

YABU

Pretty awful if provision for vulnerable people is a function of rich people’s generosity rather than government systems.

And he’s done a great thing through his campaigning work. He’s 22. No idea what he gives to charity. But seriously it’s not on him to do any more.

OP, your opinion was that he should “put his money where his mouth is.” Marcus Rashford has done exactly that. He’s used his influence and wealth to improve the lives of children. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion but you’re obviously wrong. What more would you like him to do? What are you doing to help?

@Aurorie11

You are being V V unreasonable

I'm not a Man Utd fan, but Marcus Rashford and what he has done with food poverty has been the most positive thing over the last 6 months

What in God’s name has not being a Man United fan got to do with it?

I agree. It’s the responsibility of the parents to make sure their kids are fed- not the rest of the taxpayer population.

you realise that sometimes circumstances change?

@user1493494961

It's the responsibility of parents to feed their children.

It is...but we are in time’s that no could have predicted

My dh lost his job because he took time off to self isolate.

Lots of people lost their jobs too.

Plus expenses went up because people had to stay home

OP... gonna go out on a limb here and say I don’t think you’ve thought this through.

As PPs say, this needs change at a governmental level, private philanthropy can't fix this.

Rashford is showing admirable leadership and persistence.

YABU.

We pay taxes. Those taxes are supposed to support those in need. Poor, hungry children should be top of the list. They should not be dependent upon charity.

@user1493494961

It's the responsibility of parents to feed their children.

Those kids' future wages will be paying your pension

@Pr1mr0se

it's admirable that he feels he can raise the topic of school meals and poverty and the campaign seems to be growing wings with the food alliance HOWEVER AIBU to think that given that he is an extremely wealthy footballer with many footballer contacts in similar positions that they should be putting their money where their mouth is, so to speak too?

How do you know that he doesn't donate hundreds/thousands/whatever every week? He is a young, very influential man, who is trying to raise awareness of an issue that is not going away. Why is it just his responsibility because he's rich.

Fucks sake, I don't follow football at all and I know who this young man is because of the amount of work he puts into this problem. And at the risk of sounding like a moany old bint (accurate sometimes) I think you should be pretty ashamed of yourself OP. You've got it all twisted about what the real problem is and whose responsibility it is fix it.

@RunningAwaywiththeCircus

It is not the responsibility of wealthy individuals to pay for food programmes for children, it is the responsibility of the government.

We, no. It’s the responsibility of THEIR PARENTS!!! FFS do people actually believe the government’s job is to feed the offspring of able bodied people without caveat?

If those kids NEED it, then yeah.

The 'it's the responsibility of parents to feed their kids' attitude is so utterly intolerant of the hundreds of situations where parents cant feed their kids.

I had to give up everything and move hundreds of miles away from my abuser. I couldn't work because the refuge rent was too high. I struggled to get benefits for a couple of months for reasons to do with my abuser. How the hell could I have fed my kids?

People can be working, have an accident or get ill, then their income has gone and they are at the mercy of the system

I am currently off work as I have cancer, I am now down over £1000 a month, with exactly the same outgoings as before. I have some very tough choices to make right now.

The child maintenance system in this country is a fucking disgrace too. Why don't these 'it's the parents responsibility' people kick up more of a fuss about that.

@Pr1mr0se

it's admirable that he feels he can raise the topic of school meals and poverty and the campaign seems to be growing wings with the food alliance HOWEVER AIBU to think that given that he is an extremely wealthy footballer with many footballer contacts in similar positions that they should be putting their money where their mouth is, so to speak too?

How do you know they don't? Most high income people support worthy causes, they don't all talk about it unless it's to raise its profile.

They are not, however, responsible for paying for something the government should be financing.