Marus Rushford - AIBU?

[Pr1mr0se]

it's admirable that he feels he can raise the topic of school meals and poverty and the campaign seems to be growing wings with the food alliance HOWEVER AIBU to think that given that he is an extremely wealthy footballer with many footballer contacts in similar positions that they should be putting their money where their mouth is, so to speak too?

@netflixismysidehustle

What helped me escape poverty was grammar schools (hated by the left)

The current grammar school system is dominated by parents who know "the tricks" like getting a tutor, which books to teach etc The test assumes knowledge of the maths syllabus that state schools won't have covered on the test day so the children who need and could benefit from it most end up being excluded by sharp elbowed middle class parents hoping to avoid private school fees.
If selection could happen by some way that money couldn't buy an advantage in the test then I think that grammar schools would be better supported. The same goes for Faith schools. There will be "poor" kids losing out because their parents didn't know that they needed their child christened by X months old which ends up excluding some who would benefit like you.

@netflixismysidehustle, it's the same with claiming DLA and moving children from DLA to PIP. It's also a very sharp-elbowed game where you have to know the system, or know someone who does.

I've done some pro bono work (helping with a PIP renewal at the moment actually) and it is the cruellest, least child-friendly system that could have been devised.

Ditto the UC 'support group' paperwork for 18 year olds with disabilities.

If Marcus Rashford can shine any light on any aspects of these intertwined scandals around poverty and benefits, then I'm grateful.

@netflixismysidehustle

My son's school had informed him of his Btec results. Why don't you contact your school

Marcus funding more FSM is a bit like tax credits.

The government introduced tax credits to top up wages, this means businesses didn’t need to increase wages to a liveable level when employing people. This has caused wage stagnation.

If Marcus promised £1m per year for FSM the government would simply reduce their FSM budget by the same amount.

[quote Ted27]@netflixismysidehustle

My son's school had informed him of his Btec results. Why don't you contact your school[/quote]
My children hasn't sat exams this year so it's not about me but there are BTEC students who apparently still haven't heard

[quote minnieok]@HoneysuckIejasmine

Actually it's the responsibility of parents. Government policy should ensure that benefits (money or vouchers for specific items) are provided as a safety net to those in need. Unfortunately all of us who work with food banks and hot meal provision know that the majority of our clients would have enough money if they made better choices, so frustrating as it's their kids suffering. Last week I ranged hot food to be delivered until yesterday because a family had no money until today but the lady was smoking, cigarettes are nearly £10 a pack! I would never say anything but behind closed doors we vent [/quote]
I think you missed the bit where I said "food programmes" like, you know, benefits, and FSM. So, kinda sounds like you agree with me?

@Pr1mr0se

it's admirable that he feels he can raise the topic of school meals and poverty and the campaign seems to be growing wings with the food alliance HOWEVER AIBU to think that given that he is an extremely wealthy footballer with many footballer contacts in similar positions that they should be putting their money where their mouth is, so to speak too?

Why? Are you?

We can all give according to our means.

And we don't know that he isn't.

He pays a huge amount in Tax and NI. I think he's doing his bit

Sorry, went YABU primarily on the basis of your lazy spelling. Didn't really engage much with your view after that.

@netflixismysidehustle

Taking about inequality - why haven't BTEC students received their results yet? How are they supposed to go onto further education or training without crucial results? Why aren't the media as outraged by this as the A-level and GCSE fiasco?

Because that probably means your school is protesting very strongly about the results they've received.

Of course, if you'd rather the kids received grades that the school feels are completely wrong, crack on.

How do you know he’s not already doing this?

@Pr1mr0se

it's admirable that he feels he can raise the topic of school meals and poverty and the campaign seems to be growing wings with the food alliance HOWEVER AIBU to think that given that he is an extremely wealthy footballer with many footballer contacts in similar positions that they should be putting their money where their mouth is, so to speak too?

What about the huge sums he'll pay in taxes?

@bp300 you're presuming there that his parents paid for tickets to matches?!!

[quote ladymuck111]@bp300 you're presuming there that his parents paid for tickets to matches?!! [/quote]
I don't believe he would have received the ticket free of charge and there would also be other expenses such as travel etc.

Why are you so determined to discredit him, at least two of us have said that as an academy player he would not have paid fo

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above post intended for @bp300

I think it's a little presumptuous to think his parents paid for it! Any family member or anything could have gifted him tickets.

But as PPs have said he attended the academy which would mean he would have access to matches.

I think he's an admirable young man for all he has done.

@Ted27

Why are you so determined to discredit him, at least two of us have said that as an academy player he would not have paid fo

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From what I have been told it actually costs you alot of money to he an academy player up to age 11 as you are covering your I en expenses. The Man Utd foundation give away free games but you will not get every match free it us usually cup games that don't sell etc. I have seen my whole life so called poor people overspending and pleading poverty and it keeps getting worse. I have nothing against Rashford in particular but more annoyed at our weak government bowing to his demands

I don't believe he would have received the ticket free of charge and there would also be other expenses such as travel etc.

Selective reading there bp300. As already has been posted, Rashford was a member of the Development Squad so WOULD have received free tickets for himself and an adult to escort him to the games. This is because watching games is an important part of the development of players.

I think bp300 is having an unfunny laugh.

One of the first lines in Rashford's wiki entry says that he's been a Manchester United player since the age of 7.

From what I have been told it actually costs you alot of money to he an academy player up to age 11 as you are covering your I en expenses.

I know damn all about the development of academy footballers but even if this was correct (although I'm perfectly happy to believe more knowledgeable posters who say this was not the case for Marcus Rashford anyway) I find this a very puzzling attitude. Poor people are always being told that it's all about the attitude, they need to pull themselves up by the bootstraps etc. So if his family had, knowing that his best chance in life was to make it as a footballer, sacrificed everything they could in order to buy him kit and transport him to training and games, that would be a bad thing? If middle class parents make sacrifices for their kids, that's called being supportive.

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

I think it’s easy to pick on footballers because they are young- he probably does give to the charity as many probably give to charity. It’s not really up to footballers to feed those in poverty. He shone a light on an issue, I think that’s enough.

Exactly this! Bless him he looks so young. The poor boy has done his best OP

His mother actually asked the Academy to take him on f/t early, at 10 or 11, for financial reasons, but I suppose that can be twisted as chucking him away, whereas boarding school at 7 is just fiiiiine.

I think @bp300 may be @Xenia twin.

So now only rich kids should be at football academies?
This thread is depressing with the amount of nasty elitist snobs.