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The alphabet and 'H'.

458 replies

Thatbliddywoman · 01/09/2020 22:50

So we say
Ay.
Bee
Sea
Dee
Ee
Eff
Jee
Aitch. Except we don't. We say 'Haitch'.
Why?
We make the aitch have its own letter as the sound of the word for it
We don't do that with any other letter. Why H?
We don't say 'wubbleyew' do we, It's 'doubleyew'?
I don't understand it.

OP posts:
QuentinWinters · 01/09/2020 23:03

like Ay sounds like I'm having a..

To me
I'm very confused Confused

Miriel · 01/09/2020 23:03

@TheMarzipanDildo

People are dreadful about ‘Haitch’-sayers on Mumsnet. It’s tantamount to murder!
Right. The first page establishes that it's a regional variation with fairly sensitive political connotations in some places.

But this is MN so we'll have 300 posts about how awful that variation is and how much they judge those who use it.

Histrionicz · 01/09/2020 23:04

I’m a real snob about ‘haitch’. Ugh. It seems so common. 🤭

I also don’t know what you’re getting at.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 01/09/2020 23:04

I say aitch.

I was slightly confused by a "Jemma with a j-eye" once. I think that's common in parts of Scotland.

Stannisbaratheonsboxofmatches · 01/09/2020 23:05

To be fair a lot of the letter names start with their sound! Bee, Dee, Jay, Kay, Pee, Tee, Vee, Zed.

EggyPegg · 01/09/2020 23:05

@CareBear50

Huge connotations in NI. Generally speaking, Catholics say Haitch, protestants day Aitch.

If you want to know someone's background, ask them to spell "hat" lol

This is amazing.

I've always said 'aitch'. Because that is CORRECT (it's the hill I'll die on).

I didn't know that about the Protestant/Catholic thing. I'm not Catholic so fall on the Protestant side as default (raised C of E, athiest now). Not from N.I.

SleepingStandingUp · 01/09/2020 23:06

@chitofftheshovel

I say haitch with a silent aitch.
Grin
m00rfarm · 01/09/2020 23:07

My son who went to an expensive prep school in mid 2000 was taught to say "haitch". Used to drive us mad.

windthatbobbin · 01/09/2020 23:07

What OP is saying is that people who pronounce it haitch often rationalise doing so by saying you pronounce the h at the beginning because it's the letter h. OP is saying why not then do that for f (feff), s (sess) w (wubbleyew) etc. I get it.

My partner says haitch - I say aitch. Aitch is right; haitch is an abomination IMO. Our 4yo DD is very confused!

GunsAndShips · 01/09/2020 23:08

@QuentinWinters

I have no idea what the op means. What do you mean we make H have its own sound? ConfusedConfusedConfusedConfused
Op means by saying haitch, people are sticking a 'huh' sound on the front of aitch for no apparent reason ie putting the letter sound on the front and we don't do that with other letters randomly. M is em not mem for example. L is el not lel.
mrshoho · 01/09/2020 23:09

Haitch

Igotthemheavyboobs · 01/09/2020 23:09

I'm honestly confused, lots of letters do sound the letter (as above, pee, tee etc) and H is pronounced 'Aitch'

Weird.

JocastaElastic · 01/09/2020 23:10

There's only one "H" in "aitch".

Tillygetsit · 01/09/2020 23:11

I am horribly snobby about Haitch and,I don't care.

implantsandaDyson · 01/09/2020 23:11

Yip, it's a shibboleth where I'm from (NI) and a very unpleasant one at that. "How do you spell hospital?" was a phrase I heard too often.

mummyof2boys30 · 01/09/2020 23:12

Yip protestant/Catholic thing in Northern Ireland. We are Protestant and son went to Catholic speech and language unit and he says haitch however. Rest family say Aitch lol

SleepingStandingUp · 01/09/2020 23:12

My DS was Def taught Haitch, at school and speech therapy. But then we also say Mom so...

littlecatfeet · 01/09/2020 23:16

"Aitch" does contain its own sound, just in a different form. You can't have "ch" without an H.

I personally don't care about h/aitch so much, but I get tight-lipped and stony-eyed when my children come out with "zee". Wink

Miriel · 01/09/2020 23:18

Op means by saying haitch, people are sticking a 'huh' sound on the front of aitch for no apparent reason ie putting the letter sound on the front and we don't do that with other letters randomly. M is em not mem for example. L is el not lel.

But em contains the /m/ sound already. Ell contains the /l/ sound. There's no /h/ in aitch (/ch/ is different) but there is in haitch.

RealityExistsInTheHumanMind · 01/09/2020 23:19

My name is Helen, it begins with an aitch.

Atheist of very strong catholic ancestry

Do I care how anyone else pronounces aitch, do I fuck?

JKRisaqueen · 01/09/2020 23:19

Irish people say haitch. English people say aitch. I can't wrap my head around aitch

SummerSummerSummertime · 01/09/2020 23:19

IT'S AITCH!!

SummerSummerSummertime · 01/09/2020 23:21

@kursaalflyer lol at FEFF 😂

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 01/09/2020 23:23

It's because it came from French (hache, meaning axe, think hatchet) and in French, aitches are dropped.

ilovepixie · 01/09/2020 23:24

Catholic's say Haitch. Protestants say Aitch!