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The alphabet and 'H'.

458 replies

Thatbliddywoman · 01/09/2020 22:50

So we say
Ay.
Bee
Sea
Dee
Ee
Eff
Jee
Aitch. Except we don't. We say 'Haitch'.
Why?
We make the aitch have its own letter as the sound of the word for it
We don't do that with any other letter. Why H?
We don't say 'wubbleyew' do we, It's 'doubleyew'?
I don't understand it.

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SmellsLikeFeet · 02/09/2020 12:00

I say aitch, what and loo
I am doomed

minnieok · 02/09/2020 12:03

Adding the h was regional and class based, but like most things not as clear cut now. Living in London aitch was middle class haitch was working class

Smallsteps88 · 02/09/2020 12:16

Phonetically though g is guh not Juh

I wasn’t taught to read using phonetics so it isn’t natural for me to say guh when I see G, my brain automatically says “G” as in the letter name. If we are naming letters according to phonetics I would say G should be called ghee not jee/gee.

English phonetics fry my head Grin

Pluckedpencil · 02/09/2020 12:19

"Pardon?" was brought in as a word to emulate upper class French by non upper class people.
"What?" is now used in a similar manner to separate upper class English from the rest of the country that uses "pardon".
"I'm sorry?" is the phrase for the people who want to distance themselves from this frankly ridiculous argument!
Such is life!

FlySheMust · 02/09/2020 12:23

@Miscella

Fly - I’m afraid you are making yourself sound very ignorant.

English may be your language however mine is Hiberno-English, it is a distinct dialect and what is ‘correct’ in your version of English is not necessarily correct in mine.

It isn't ignorant to pronounce a word the way it is spelt. Rather stupid to think otherwise.

The question was about pronunciation of "aitch". Not pronunciation of haitch.

SleepingStandingUp · 02/09/2020 12:26

*so it isn’t natural for me to say guh when I see G, my brain automatically says “G” as in the letter name.
I'd say j-ee for G and guh for g

Smallsteps88 · 02/09/2020 12:28

It isn't ignorant to pronounce a word the way it is spelt.

Stating this in relation to the English language is hilarious! Grin or is it hillaireeus?

Smallsteps88 · 02/09/2020 12:30

I'd say j-ee for G and guh for g

We’re talking about the letter name though. Do you have two different pronunciations for how to say the letter name?

AhNowTed · 02/09/2020 12:36

The sort of folks who sneer at others for the way they hold their knife, or say Magdalen instead of Maaawdlin.

You need to get out more.

BoingBoingyBoing · 02/09/2020 12:44

"It isn't ignorant to pronounce a word the way it is spelt. Rather stupid to think otherwise."

How do you pronounce pterodactyl then? Just wondering.

SleepingStandingUp · 02/09/2020 12:50

@Smallsteps88

I'd say j-ee for G and guh for g

We’re talking about the letter name though. Do you have two different pronunciations for how to say the letter name?

The letter name is j-ee phonetically, or how most people pronounce gee
Smallsteps88 · 02/09/2020 12:52

Exactly! So gee is fine! Grin

AhNowTed · 02/09/2020 12:55

@eggandonion

Does anyone recall the 2019 Santa v Father Christmas discussion. I think it ended badly.

😂

You'd swear some folks have never travelled outside of England.

EarringsandLipstick · 02/09/2020 13:01

The question was about pronunciation of "aitch". Not pronunciation of haitch.

🙄🙄🙄

The question was about the pronunciation of the letter 'h'

0blio · 02/09/2020 13:02

You'd all have fits listening to people from some parts of Scotland pronouncing it 'ITCH' Grin

FlySheMust · 02/09/2020 13:08

@Smallsteps88

It isn't ignorant to pronounce a word the way it is spelt.

Stating this in relation to the English language is hilarious! Grin or is it hillaireeus?

I admit my tongue was in my cheek. Wink
Smallsteps88 · 02/09/2020 13:11

Grin Fair play.

Legallybleachblonde · 02/09/2020 13:16

No one said 'haitch' when I was growing up - 70s, south of England. Haitch seems to have crept in over the last 20 years (so far as I have noticed anyway). I absolutely cannot stand 'haitch' and I want to scream when people say 'Haitch R' at work 😡

Smallsteps88 · 02/09/2020 13:18

Wow that’s an extreme reaction to something that is of absolutely no consequence.

OwlBeThere · 02/09/2020 13:19

I say ‘Huh’ Cos im welsh and we say letters properly and In A way that makes sense 😂

EarringsandLipstick · 02/09/2020 13:21

I absolutely cannot stand 'haitch' and I want to scream when people say 'Haitch R' at work

Gosh. What do you do when something serious happens?

Don't move to Ireland (and / or many other parts of the UK, it would seem) as you just won't be able to cope with all these 'haitches', pronounced perfectly correctly 🤨

Legallybleachblonde · 02/09/2020 13:21

You're right smallsteps - maybe I'm having a bad week 😂

Smallsteps88 · 02/09/2020 13:23
Grin

I hope it gets better. Or at least I hope no-one “haitches” in your vicinity until you’re feeling better.

eggandonion · 02/09/2020 13:24

Imagine if a colleague from new Zealand was talking, all those kiwi vowels.

Mimilamore · 02/09/2020 13:40

NHaitchS.... really grinds me down.....
It's aitch..... haitch goes with holding your knife like a pen 😀