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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Boyfriend advice please.

122 replies

Sall85 · 31/08/2020 20:31

I have been with my partner for 4 years. We have lived together for 2. Very happy normally. A couple of months ago he was going fishing on his day off or so he told me. Long story short I found out he was actually going hiking all day with a female colleague. He didn't tell me because he thought I would say no!?
I completely lost trust in him and we nearly split. Iam still working on trusting him again. He just announced that about 7 colleagues are going camping in October for the weekend and one of them is this woman.
I have said absolutely not.. A deal breaker for me. He is adamant he wants to go.
I can see his point. I don't believe anything is going on with the woman and its a shame for him to miss out on the trip but I just can't get over what happened and that tjis woman was also in on the lie. And in fact has been bad mouthing me to people.
Please help mumsnet tears. Am I overreacting?

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ForTheLoveOfCatFood · 31/08/2020 20:59

If my dp chose a work colleague who bad mouthed me over me I’d be walking away...
He sounds a bit manipulative tbh

IncandescentSilver · 31/08/2020 21:02

Nothing is going on but he did lie to you. Lieing to you us a barrier he has crossed already and there's little to stop him doing so again. He doesnt seem sorry enough...

Is the work colleague attractive?

ChasingRainbow · 31/08/2020 21:06

I think major questions need to asked about what the issues are between the TWO of you that he is confiding in her about. Ultimately he is being at best cagey and at worst lying to you, both are worrying symptoms about the state of your relationship in the first place. Also...a camping trip in Oct? Who does that?

Sall85 · 31/08/2020 21:07

She is not unattractive but not exactly pretty either. He on the other hand is gorgeous. Think Christian gray.

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rvby · 31/08/2020 21:07

I can't think why you'd marry someone who's this deceitful and callous, really. You can love him all you want, but the basics aren't in place are they? He's broken the trust between you, and is now refusing to help rebuild it. It's over I think?

xoxogossipgirl2020 · 31/08/2020 21:07

I wish I had any advice but unfortunately I’m in a relationship where I am not a priority too, so I guess I just know exactly how you’re feeling and it’s horrible. I hope you’re ok x

HebeJeeby · 31/08/2020 21:17

Sorry but what did he say on the group chat to defend you when she bad mouthed you?? If he’a Got your back that is one thing but if there’s a deafening silence then i’d Not be happy. And bollocks to he thought you wouldn’t let him go on the walking trip, ever heard the expression “it’s easier to ask for forgiveness than permission “? He just hoped you wouldn’t find out in the first place and if you did then, well it’s all your fault he had to lie about it, isn’t it? You being so controlling and all that. Hmmm.....

2020iscancelled · 31/08/2020 21:32

Aside from the lie, the thing I’d be fuming about and would struggle to get over is that your bf is letting some random colleague slag you off! He’s allowing someone who’s never met you pass comment on you in their sodding group chat - and as a PP says, anything she’s heard she’s heard from him. Sorry but for me this is unforgivable.

We all moan about our partners to friends occasionally but that’s not what he’s been doing here, he’s purposefully letting people (other women) believe you are unreasonable and controlling in the relationship.

For me that’s a deal breaker

Graphista · 31/08/2020 21:58

But I’m wondering what the dynamics are like in the relationship in the first place that made him think a lie was preferable?

Doesn’t need to be ANYTHING to do with the dynamics of the ops relationship but certainly COULD be to do with the dynamics of the ops boyfriends relationship with this female work colleague

Ie that he KNEW that his relationship with the colleague had already or was likely to overstep boundaries.

If he’s already having either an emotional or even physical relationship with the colleague (which frankly it sounds as if it is distinctly possible) then he will have had a reason for not wanting to tell op that he was meeting up with female colleague alone and possibly alerting op to an inappropriate relationship with the colleague.

I agree that men and women can be just friends, but when someone in a relationship is not being honest with their girlfriend/partner/spouse about such relationships then that IS suspicious - why LIE if everything is above board?

Remember too that cheaters tend to not only lie but gaslight, rewrite the relationship history, paint the person they’re cheating on badly to their affair partner - “my wife doesn’t understand me” “my fiancé is jealous and controlling” etc when it’s plain not true!

If you havent met his female friend then surely she could only be calling you controlling if HE said that about you...to her? exactly! All this woman knows about op is what ops boyfriend has told her! And if he’s trying to get his leg over with her knowing he’s supposed to be in a committed relationship with someone else he’s got to justify his behaviour

My ex cheated, I’d never had cause to be jealous or insecure - until he was cheating!

I’d never been controlling in any way, yet AS SOON as I queried the mentionitis he went on and on that I’d “always” been jealous etc - total bullshit, totally intended as deflection!

But it took my mum and closest friend (both of whom knew him too) to point out that in 10 years I’d never had a problem with him having female friends and even going on nights out/weekends away/weeks away with work etc with them without me, for me to realise/accept he was playing silly buggers!

On the advice of another relative instead of my normal reaction of going steaming in with accusations, I played it cool and let him think he was getting away with it, and tight enough this led to him being lazy/careless and me getting the evidence I needed for my own peace of mind so when I ended the relationship I knew I had good reason to.

A month after I kicked him out he told me she was pregnant, not even a month! And he STILL tried to claim they’d not slept together until I kicked him out - and he STILL tried to maintain that lie even when said baby turned up less than 7 months later!! Aside from anything else it was bloody insulting that he thought I was STUPID enough to believe such obvious lies!

Whether he’s cheating or not he IS being disloyal.

Loyalty means putting you first and putting her straight when she’s bad mouthing you - neither of which he appears to be doing!

DimidDavilby · 31/08/2020 22:10

Isn't Christian Grey a fictional character?

-misses point of thread-

cakeandchampagne · 31/08/2020 22:16

I think he should go on the wonderful camping trip!
You’ll have a whole weekend to box his things up in peace.

Onlythepoets · 31/08/2020 22:20

That’s a lot of socialising with colleagues. He’s out with her tonight?

Merryoldgoat · 31/08/2020 22:25

Did he not tell her to knock it off on the group chat?

My DH would never entertain someone saying those things about me.

I’d seriously think about ending this relationship as he doesn’t seem to respect you or value you.

FizzyGreenWater · 31/08/2020 23:08

Not gorgeous on the inside though is he?

Chantelli · 31/08/2020 23:27

Crying all weekend?

Thats not right op.

PixieLee123 · 31/08/2020 23:31

YANBU - I would tell him because he lied and broke your trust you are now not comfortable with him going on that trip, he has shot himself in the foot for lying here!

thepeopleversuswork · 31/08/2020 23:56

You can't stop him going: all you can do is decide whether you're prepared to be with someone who you don't feel you can trust.

It's hard to know from what you've posted whether he has something to hide (hence lying to you about going hiking with this woman) or whether you have created a climate where he feels that you will say no so doesn't bother asking you. Either way, it doesn't feel like an open and trusting relationship.

If she is bad mouthing you to him then one of two things has happened: either she has designs on hour OH (or is already involved with him) and is hostile, or you have acquired a reputation for being a bit controlling (which can only have come from him) and he has told or implied this to her. In either scenario there's not much love or trust there.

I think you're probably better off without him.

Sall85 · 03/09/2020 10:40

Have I made a big mistake mumsnet years? I have given him an ultimatum. If he goes then I will leave. He is not sure what to do and seems angry at me over stopping his fun.
I don't want to be that person. I don't mind the trip at all if that woman wasn't going to. He thinks he should be able to what he wants and he is only young once etc etc. That he wants these trips before we settle down.
I explained that getting married doesn't mean he stops trips or having fun.
Unfortunately he called his parents over the matter and they have gotten in his head that he shouldn't back down on principle and that he has done nothing wrong. Iam just really upset and confused this morning. I have no idea anymore what's right.

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D4rwin · 03/09/2020 10:49

He called his parents? Wow. I'd leave him and look for a grown up to have a relationship with. If she's been implying you're controlling it sounds as mummy and daddy aren't the only people he's been whinging to. Out of interest by Christian Gray do you mean a shallow one sided character who believes his own fiction of being irresistible to women? Because he sounds like that.

OfTheNight · 03/09/2020 10:58

He called his parents???? Wtf? So he’s slagged you off, then allowed a colleague to slag you off, then lied to you, then totally disregarded your feelings and then called his mam and dad to slag you off some more? Seriously OP, no matter how gorgeous he is he’s treating you like shit. He doesn’t love you, that’s not how you behave when you love someone. You deserve so much better.

LioneIRichTea · 03/09/2020 11:03

Have I made a big mistake mumsnet years? I have given him an ultimatum. If he goes then I will leave. He is not sure what to do

Not sure what to do??

Sorry OP but that doesn’t sound good at all! Shock Hope you’re ok.

Sall85 · 03/09/2020 11:04

His mum keeps texting him are you OK? Are you safe? I mean wtf? They want him to leave me and move back home.

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LioneIRichTea · 03/09/2020 11:06

He thinks he should be able to what he wants and he is only young once etc etc. That he wants these trips before we settle down.

Confused Sorry OP but this is ringing loud alarm bells! Why does he think he couldn’t go hiking and on these trips when you’re settled? Why would that suddenly be off the cards. I dont want to make you feel worse but it sounds like his “fun” is at the minimum flirting with this woman.

Sall85 · 03/09/2020 11:07

Just to be clear.. Iam not dangerous lol.. Iam a trainee solicitor. I have never been anything other than a good loyal girlfriend to her son. Supported him through his degree. Stayed up all night to help him with work. His mother dislikes me because he moved in with me. He is her golden child.
His mum texted him last night that he should cancel his credit card if he comes home in case I run up a bill. He agreed that is ludicrous.

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Mamadoll · 03/09/2020 11:08

So he lies, doesn't defend you when being insulted by colleague causing issue, and calls his mummy to fight his battles after an argument with his girlfriend? He might be attractive on the outside OP but he is pug fucking ugly on the inside. Being deceitful, not having your back and not respecting your privacy boundaries within your relationship are deeply unattractive qualities in any partner.

You are already questioning yourself on this relationship, you don't trust him and he's giving you no reason to think that you can going forward, and for the rest of your lives if you marry him. Is he really worth it? I reckon staying with this man will destroy whatever self esteem you have left.