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To think that Joe Wicks is not a hero?

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Cheeseandlobster · 30/08/2020 09:34

Dont get me wrong, I like him and do one of his hiit sessions every day. He is a great trainer and motivator and he has raised a lot of awareness of the benefits of exercise. But a hero he is not. What he is, is an astute man who spotted an opportunity to make a lot of money during lockdown.

He raised 500k for the NHS through t shirt sales. But he also made 10 million for himself. I saw numerous comments about him being a national treasure as he got up every morning to do a 30 - 40 minute PE session for the nation. Even with planning weekly costumes, making props and planning the exercises (though often he winged it) this does not necessitate a full days work I am sure. I did the sessions on top of an 8 - 10 hour working day as did many others which is much harder.

It just annoys me when I see him being hailed as a hero when I doubt he would have done it without being able to make a ton of money for himself and to raise his own profile

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Cheeeeislifenow · 30/08/2020 14:26

To be fair, he has said himself he has been surprised as to how hard Marley is, he needed to be held all of the time and he has said he struggles with the constant crying. I think he probably looks back on that and cringes.

looperb · 30/08/2020 14:28

worse thing is dc2 has shown dc1 the dark side!

AlternativePerspective · 30/08/2020 14:29

He could have sat on his arse, done nothing and bitched about other people's efforts like the OP appears to be doing////

southeastdweller · 30/08/2020 14:33

Was it really difficult for Joe and his team to devise and carry out the PE campaign? Probably not, not when they could forecast the immense financial benefits to themselves. And yes of course he could have chosen not to donate to charity but the backlash to his brand would have been very damaging.

SantaClaritaDiet · 30/08/2020 14:41

Was it really difficult for Joe and his team to devise and carry out the PE campaign?

Maybe not, but it would have been just as easy for others to do the same. They didn't think about it.

Now people are jealous!

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Cheeseandlobster · 30/08/2020 14:48

@SantaClaritaDiet

ANYONE with a bit of success will attract a few bitter and jealous individuals, it's nearly entertaining to read how nasty and low they can get.

Shame they are talking about real people who can get genuinely affected by these low-lives. I am glad MN is deleting the worst, but it's still so unecessary.

Own it, you are miffed someone else is making a success and you are not!

The conclusions reached here are just ridiculous. I said he is not a hero in my eyes though I did acknowledge the good work he has done. I never said Joe Wicks has ever personally stated he is a hero himself. Plenty of others have though which is what I was disagreeing with. I did not compare his work to working on covid wards either.

I said he talked over his wife and was abrupt in the way he told her to go inside and then upstairs. These were observations and not speculation on his entire relationship.

I never once said anything negative about his parenting skills. I don't even think I mentioned him as a parent though I did say his children are adorable and that I liked to see them in his videos.

Oh and my life is very good thank you very much and I have achieved great success in my own career so I am not jealous or bitter. You don't have to agree with me but some of these comments on here are nasty and bitchy which is what I am being accused of for making observations. And like it or not, the voting is very much in favour of my original post so there are plenty of others who agree with what I have said.

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SantaClaritaDiet · 30/08/2020 14:57

You still can't stop yourself to the "hero is the wrong word" which I actually don't disagree with. Not sure that was worth a thread, but why not.

You still have to carry on, make digs and bitchy comments this does not necessitate a full days work I am sure is one, and your "observations" about his relationship totally unnecessary.

OF COURSE you have achieved great success yourself, which is why you need to look down at someone achieving more by working less maybe?

It's beyond having an opinion about the actual business, it's just jealousy and bitchiness, you might not like us pointing it out, but it shows..

Monkeynuts18 · 30/08/2020 14:58

He’s not a hero and I can see why people might find him irritating.

But he’s lucky and obviously astute and he did a good thing. I can’t bring myself to be bitter towards people who make money from doing a good thing at the right time.

Longwhiskers14 · 30/08/2020 15:02

And like it or not, the voting is very much in favour of my original post so there are plenty of others who agree with what I have said.

Wow, you are actually taking pride in people voting in favour of your mealy mouthed OP.

I said he talked over his wife and was abrupt in the way he told her to go inside and then upstairs. These were observations and not speculation on his entire relationship.

You implied and insinuated to invite further derogatory speculation. Just as bad in my book.

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Cheeseandlobster · 30/08/2020 15:07

@SantaClaritaDiet

You still can't stop yourself to the "hero is the wrong word" which I actually don't disagree with. Not sure that was worth a thread, but why not.

You still have to carry on, make digs and bitchy comments this does not necessitate a full days work I am sure is one, and your "observations" about his relationship totally unnecessary.

OF COURSE you have achieved great success yourself, which is why you need to look down at someone achieving more by working less maybe?

It's beyond having an opinion about the actual business, it's just jealousy and bitchiness, you might not like us pointing it out, but it shows..

You know absolutely nothing about me but are making personal comments about my apparent lack of success. Yet I am the bitchy one. Ok love. I notice you mention none of the nice things I have said about Joe Wicks either

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SantaClaritaDiet · 30/08/2020 15:12

Cheeseandlobster

well, you are the one who started a bitchy thread about a successful individual... as if adding a few "nice things" makes the bitchiness any less bitchy.

Some sulky teens on here today!

GoudaGirl · 30/08/2020 15:13

Good Luck to him! Committing every day to something and as others said he didn't know what the outcome would be.

Sour grapes and nit picking on the use of the word hero. People know the term hero is now commonly used as a different meaning than in the Oxford English Dictionary, that's another discussion as it's not just being used like that solely about him, its part of a wider use in the media. It's a bit of hyperbole. He isn't using it to describe himself!

heartsonacake · 30/08/2020 15:14

YABU and miserly.

I doubt he would have done it without being able to make a ton of money for himself and to raise his own profile

This is exactly why anyone does any job And it’s nothing to be ashamed about.

At least he contributed rather than sat back and bitched about other people contributing.

LolaSmiles · 30/08/2020 15:18

He did something nice to get people being active, but he isn't a hero or the nation's PE teacher or whatever other overhyped title gets given next.

He's an astute businessman and I actually quite like him, but I can't stand the nauseating fawning that's been done.

JenniferSantoro · 30/08/2020 15:26

He’s so smug. He’s the only person ever to have kids and now he thinks he’s some kind of baby guru. Although I’m not personally a fan I would however say every credit to anyone with that earning power. He’s clearly very motivated and has made a success of his life after a difficult childhood.

Infullbloom · 30/08/2020 15:26

I don't rate him as a trainer at all. There was no proper warm ups/cool downs in his pe workouts. No proper instruction regarding form and no modifications offered for those who need them. I did a few with ds and though nope I'm going to end up with an injury, far too much high impact for my liking and I work out every day. I had to teach ds how to do the squats/press ups etc safely and got him to do a longer warm up.

Hobnobswantshernameback · 30/08/2020 15:28

I'm always amused on threads like this when people chuck their toys out of the pram when posters are unpleasant to them
When their op was unpleasant and bitchy
Dish but can't take

Longwhiskers14 · 30/08/2020 15:34

I was just thinking it was strange that suddenly this thread is suddenly full of JW haters, so I checked that Tattle website someone mentioned up the thread and wanted to disinfect myself from head to toe afterwards because it's such a nasty, grubby celeb-bashing forum and surprise, surprise someone's posted a comment about this on the anti-Joe Wicks thread there and now there's a pile on here. So you might want to disregard that vote result, OP.

southeastdweller · 30/08/2020 15:50

I'm amazed at the number of people here who're telepathic, claiming to know what the OP has done, charity-wise, during lockdown. Please feel free to PM me Wednesday's lottery numbers.

fishonabicycle · 30/08/2020 16:07

Jeez! The guy is making a living trying to improve people's health and fitness. There are plenty of other people making a living from fraud, scams, profiteering, all sorts of shitty things, but people still decide to have a pop at the PT chap!

PhilSwagielka · 30/08/2020 16:07

@Infullbloom

I never did the Wicks workouts for that reason, I have fibromyalgia and doing certain exercises is incredibly painful. Like burpees, which he's a big fan of.

ZaraW · 30/08/2020 16:13

I know people who never exercised and Joe Wicks got them to do it. There are lots of people I dislike I just don't have the energy/inclination to moan about them.

Namechangr9000 · 30/08/2020 16:15

Longwhiskers14
I looked at the Tattle website and it seems full of people who obsessively stalk follow certain celebs or families, read everything about them on insta/facebook and youtube.....and then spend all day rip them to shreds!🤷‍♀️

june2007 · 30/08/2020 16:16

Well I don,t think a lot of people who are called her0,s are. But i think what he did was very helpful to a lot of families in the spring/early summer.

Aragog · 30/08/2020 16:16

He has been slated on here before ( not by myself) where people have predominantly agreed.

Well, that's all right then, clearly?!?
I just don't see what people get out of berated someone they don't even know.

There's a difference between stating you don't think someone is an actual 'hero' than then giving a long list of reasons as to why you don't think he deserves any praise, and then other people saying they don't like him and pulling apart his as a person. And this is someone almost everyone here DOES NOT KNOW!

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