Page 3 | Aggressive anti-maskers make it less fun to go out and do stuff so swathes of us are staying in more than we would

ChavvySexPond · 2020-08-29T22:11:41+00:00

All I seem to hear about these days is people who don't follow the masking and social distancing rules and how it makes going out so much more stressful and how people who would like to go out more are staying in more instead? AIBU to think aggressive anti-maskers and anti-social distancing covid deniers make being out in the world even worse than it has to be in the time of Covid?

BikeTyson · 30/08/2020 09:38

It’s far more about perception than reality, with the exception of the big demo. I’ve been having to take public transport for the past week - fair enough it was at commuter time, but I didn’t see anyone (except children) without one. Shops are full of them. If anything, it’s people going on about how many people aren’t wearing masks that are causing this perception that they aren’t and putting people off. I’ve barely seen anyone not wearing one, let alone encountered any aggressive anti-maskers.

ParlezVousWronglais · 30/08/2020 09:45

I’ve noticed some areas there is more non mask wearers than others.

I’ve seen a man aggressively not wearing a mask. He walked into the same supermarket ranting and shouting “I’m not wearing one it’s all rubbish, do you know how I know? Cos if they really worked the shop workers would have to wear one but they don’t it’s a joke it’s all rubbish.”

He was clearly a conspiracy theorist. And lacking in intelligence.

Nah. Not buying it. (Breathable) face coverings aren’t listed as a trigger
www.nhs.uk/conditions/asthma/causes/

If anything masks would reduce the risk.

Doccomplaint · 30/08/2020 09:48

@ParlezVousWronglais

I’ve noticed some areas there is more non mask wearers than others.

I’ve seen a man aggressively not wearing a mask. He walked into the same supermarket ranting and shouting “I’m not wearing one it’s all rubbish, do you know how I know? Cos if they really worked the shop workers would have to wear one but they don’t it’s a joke it’s all rubbish.”

He was clearly a conspiracy theorist. And lacking in intelligence.

Nah. Not buying it. (Breathable) face coverings aren’t listed as a trigger
www.nhs.uk/conditions/asthma/causes/

If anything masks would reduce the risk.

What has the economic status of the area to do with it?

I can’t wear a mask. I have asthma. My asthma is not the reason I can’t wear a mask. Why I don’t is none of your business and you should keep your judgements to yourself.

Kaktus · 30/08/2020 09:49

But you have absolutely no idea how other people with asthma feel. You only know how you feel.
Luckily you don’t have to ‘buy it’, because the reason other people aren’t wearing a mask is absolutely nothing to do with you.
I wear one. I hate it but I wear one. I know people who can’t wear one and won’t go out so that they don’t get shamed by people who think they have a right to know their medical condition and make a judgement on whether they should be wearing one or not. I don’t know anyone who can wear one but chooses not to.

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FinnyStory · 30/08/2020 09:55

It's not anti-maskers that make me stay in, it's the requirement to wear masks. I always wear one when I need to but I'm not going anywhere I don't need to if I will have to wear a mask.

Not because I object to wearing a mask but because I feel that if the situation is such that they're needed and I don't need to be there, I may as well avoid it and be safe because I'm not at all convinced they offer much protection. Plus if I was going just for fun, the mask does detract from my enjoyment of the occasion so I'm inclined not to bother.

However, I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that "aggressive antimaskers" are everywhere refusing to wear a mask. I haven't seen anyone in a shop not wearing one since they became mandatory.

Bollss · 30/08/2020 09:59

I have asthma and can tolerate a mask for a short time. Doesn't mean everyone else with asthma can. I wouldn't judge anyone for not wearing a mask tbh.

People don't wear them properly anyway and therefore they are pointless.

I go out much less now because I hate wearing them. They make things unenjoyable, uncomfortable and again I don't believe that they work so it feels like a pointless excersize.

megletthesecond · 30/08/2020 09:59

I did walk out of Poundland yesterday when a couple of groups of people without masks walked in. I really couldn't be bothered to keep avoiding them. i was already in a foul mood and only wanted a ruler..

Kaktus · 30/08/2020 10:00

no, you stop it.
The reasons other people can’t wear a mask are absolutely nothing to do with you. That is a fact.

ParlezVousWronglais · 30/08/2020 10:04

no, you.

Someone putting me at risk of catching it is very much my business.

Kaktus · 30/08/2020 10:09

@ParlezVousWronglais

no, you.

Someone putting me at risk of catching it is very much my business.

Except the law states that you shouldn’t challenge people for non mask wearing.

Bollss · 30/08/2020 10:09

@ParlezVousWronglais

no, you.

Someone putting me at risk of catching it is very much my business.

Stay 2m away then, problem solved.

Kaktus · 30/08/2020 10:11

Plus you’re going on about asthma... how on earth do you know that these lower class people you saw without masks aren’t wearing them due to asthma? There are many exempt conditions.
DH has asthma. He wears a mask as he doesn’t find that it exacerbates his asthma. Doesn’t mean he sits in judgement of those who aren’t wearing one, whatever medical condition they have that means they find wearing one impossible.

SillyFilly · 30/08/2020 10:15

I live in Wales and the supermarkets are horrendous. I would say about a third of people wear a mask (I know it's not compulsory like it is in England) and people seem to have forgotten about social distancing. I normally do click and collect but couldn't this week so had to go into the store. I had a panic attack and had to leave because people were reaching over me to grab things off the shelf and standing right behind me. No one was keeping 2m apart. I'm definitely stay in more and don't feel safe going out where there will be larger crowds. I haven't seen anyone being outwardly aggressive though, just people becoming careless here.

Noextremes2017 · 30/08/2020 10:19

Try getting out and making your own mind up. We have been out doing plenty for well over 10 weeks - hotels, museums, shops, English Heritage / National Trust and other tourist attractions.
You must be reading too much fake news?

PhilCornwall1 · 30/08/2020 10:20

This whole bloody virus effort has certainly highlighted that the general public think they can Police others and have a right to know their business and make demands.

Lockdown starts and people shouting the odds when neighbours went out more than once, why they have had people to their house or what's in their shopping basket.

Now we have masks and people think they can Police people who aren't wearing them and demand to know why.

People can shout and scream about this as much as they want, but what others do is none of their business, regardless of the fact "we are in the middle of a pandemic" (stick global in front of that if you wish, but why would you), which is said with monotonous regularity.

Covid hasn't suddenly given people additional rights.

ParlezVousWronglais · 30/08/2020 10:26

I didn’t say I was judging people (except one shouty man) or asking people why they’re not wearing one. But I will tell them to stay away.

In England and Scotland wearing a face covering is now the default position. It’s the law. If you can’t wear one then stay 2m away from anyone else.

PhilCornwall1 · 30/08/2020 10:27

If you can’t wear one then stay 2m away from anyone else.

And if you do wear one, do the same as well.

ParlezVousWronglais · 30/08/2020 10:28

whatever medical condition they have that means they find wearing one impossible.

True for some. For others maybe they just don’t like wearing one.

Kaktus · 30/08/2020 10:29

If you can’t wear one then stay 2m away from anyone else

And if you can wear one, then stay 2m away from anyone else. They’re not a magic Covid repellant.

Kaktus · 30/08/2020 10:30

For others maybe they just don’t like wearing one

Maybe. You have no way of knowing that though, as you are not permitted by law to challenge someone on why they aren’t wearing one.

ParlezVousWronglais · 30/08/2020 10:35

And if you do wear one, do the same as well.

I will try. But the law is wear a face covering, not stay 2m away.

If you’re not wearing a mask then it’s you that is increasing the risk. So it’s more your responsibility to stay away.

Anyway, if someone is genuinely that ill/ has a serious condition that they can’t wear a face covering then I am sure they are likely to understand and want to do everything they can to not put others at risk and will maintain their distance.

Doccomplaint · 30/08/2020 10:37

How is it responsibility if I’m not wearing A mask, standing in the supermarket attending to my own shopping needs, and some mask wearer comes and gets inside my 2m?

Kaktus · 30/08/2020 10:38

Anyway, if someone is genuinely that ill/ has a serious condition that they can’t wear a face covering then I am sure they are likely to understand and want to do everything they can to not put others at risk and will maintain their distance

You don’t have to be ‘seriously ill’ to not wear a face covering. People with sensory issues, PTSD etc are exempt. They are not serious illnesses, but are legitimate reasons to be exempt from wearing a face covering.
The law is to wear a face covering unless you are exempt.

ParlezVousWronglais · 30/08/2020 10:39

you are not permitted by law to challenge someone on why they aren’t wearing one.

I didn’t say I would. But I will tell you to stay 2m away if you come near me. And give you a very hard stare.

Now enjoy your Sunday.