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smokers out in street

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friendly · 05/10/2007 16:38

I live quite near a pub. Until recently this wasn't much of a problem. Since the change the smoking ban though it has been. Although the pub has a garden out the back people tend to go out the front to smoke. We sleep at the front of the house and the noise really carries.

I have found out they have a licence till 12.30am during the week and 1.30am Friday, Sat and Sunday. The noise isn't really raucous but it's fairly constant. Laughing, loud talking. At 12.30am when you're up early the next day its not funny. I am planning to go and talk to the landlord in a friendly way but I don't really know what to say. I don't know him and I'm a bit nervous I suppose. Does anyone have any advice please?

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FrightOwl · 11/10/2007 21:25

i think you missed my point motherfunk, and i never even mentioned smoking!

i think i was trying to say, tis not only smokers outside pubs who cause a racket.

FrightOwl · 11/10/2007 21:35

mentioned banning smoking that is!

yama · 11/10/2007 21:49

I don't smoke or drive but I know that breathing in car fumes pisses me off much more than the occasional waft of second-hand smoke.

I realise this doesn't address the OP.

2shoescreepingthroughblood · 11/10/2007 21:59

Desi .....do you want to go outide the thread for a fag?

Desiderata · 11/10/2007 22:02

And in what parallel universe do smokers cost the NHS money?

We die younger, for one thing.

And have you seen the duty on a packet of fags? It's far more likely that we're funding it

Desiderata · 11/10/2007 22:02

Bollock, 2shoes. I'm going to smoke it right here.

Desiderata · 11/10/2007 22:03

That was not bollocks in the plural, evidently ...

2shoescreepingthroughblood · 11/10/2007 22:04

have you got a light?

Desiderata · 11/10/2007 22:06

Hang on! I'll just go in ds's bedroom. He likes to keep them under his pillow ..

bozza · 11/10/2007 22:06

I sympathise because we have the same problem only in reverse. We live behind a pub and have done for 7 years with no problem and only minimal noise. They had a few tables at the front. Now they have made a window into a door and built a smoking shelter right against our back garden - we and DD sleep at the back. We have queried it with planning.

2shoescreepingthroughblood · 11/10/2007 22:08

e used to have a club opposite our house. the noise was really bad from people comming and going and getting air.
but this was before the ban. so tbh people will make noise whether they smoke or not.

MotherFunk · 12/10/2007 05:02

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seeker · 12/10/2007 05:16

Was the pub there when you bought the house?

bozza · 12/10/2007 12:12

The pub was there when we bought our house 7 years ago and we were happy with the noise levels. The garden, however was private, with children playing and washing hung out. So it is a bit of a shock when, without planning permission, they change it into a beer garden.

bozza · 12/10/2007 12:13

So, yes, I think it is the smokers causing the noise, actually.

MotherFunk · 12/10/2007 16:39

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OrmIrian · 12/10/2007 16:53

Actually motherfunk I made that point ages ago . It's not the smoking per se, except that it's the reason they are outside making a racket.

I am a non-smoker, I don't like smoking that much but I was in two minds about the ban. When it comes to passive smoking I do think that what cars and planes pump out is probably as bad but it's not generally in an enclosed space.

bozza · 13/10/2007 18:01

I don't non-smokers do actually. The only other use of it I am aware of is people going out to make private phone calls - I have heard all sorts of things over my garden wall - unfortunately so have my children.

MotherFunk · 14/10/2007 16:50

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StripeyKnickersSpottySocks · 14/10/2007 19:06

You could keep nicking his wooden tables outside the front. The lack of seating may make people more likely to use the beer garden instead.

SuGaRCoAteDPoiSOn · 14/10/2007 19:28

Well said Motherfunk

I think we could all be a bit more tolerant of others, and given the amount of duty on a packet of ciggies.. be grateful that smokers are contributing so much to the NHS. I know it's annoying to be disturbed by noise but it happens to us all doesn't it?

bozza · 14/10/2007 21:24

So when I bought my house 7 years ago I was supposed to have the insight to realise that the Govt would impose a smoking ban and the landlord would (without planning permission) change a window to a door and change a private garden into a smoking shelter?

I was happy with the previous noise levels - yes there was the odd squeal of brakes, car door slamming, faint echos of karaeoke , the noise of the beer barrels being delivered in the morning - none of that was a problem, like I was used to the church bells (church next door to pub) ringing at 9am every Sunday. But this is something different. And also I can guarentee that my babies have never, ever disturbed anyone in the pub and they are now 6 and 3 so that argument doesn't wash. If the landlord had even considered to mention his plans to me I might have been slightly more tolerant but obviously that was not something he could be bothered to do.

MotherFunk · 15/10/2007 15:23

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cracker2 · 15/10/2007 18:44

why not put some soft music on to get to sleep it works wonders with headphones you wont here the noise then, you can get wireless ones you know. Does this solve your problem

cracker2 · 15/10/2007 18:48

PS I would believe that the landlord would not have realised there would have been a smoking ban in his pub either

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