smokers out in street

[friendly]

I live quite near a pub. Until recently this wasn't much of a problem. Since the change the smoking ban though it has been. Although the pub has a garden out the back people tend to go out the front to smoke. We sleep at the front of the house and the noise really carries.

I have found out they have a licence till 12.30am during the week and 1.30am Friday, Sat and Sunday. The noise isn't really raucous but it's fairly constant. Laughing, loud talking. At 12.30am when you're up early the next day its not funny. I am planning to go and talk to the landlord in a friendly way but I don't really know what to say. I don't know him and I'm a bit nervous I suppose. Does anyone have any advice please?

There have been 'smoke-free' areas for years in most pubs. The eating areas generally were non-smoking. As far as I can remember it made no difference at all to the smoke levels.

I would contact the environmental health dept and do so on a regular basis. I wouldn't suggest to you that you move somewhere else as YOU didn't anticipate the amount of fag butts left outside on the street!

I used to be a smoker, well I do when I go out for a drink/nite out with the girls and I always look for an ashtray to chuck the butt into-which would be difficult on the street if not ashtrays?

That said, the landlord could provide a stand up ashtray for those who aren't sitting at one of those picnic table thingys because sometimes you don't want to lean over people who are sat down to stubb out your fag.

Any help?

I am going to approach the landlord first and take it from there. Hopefully it can be resolved that way. Thanks everyone for your replies. Fingers crossed for tonight!

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MotherFunk, 'Banning people from smoking in their own houses for an hour before 'work' visits (ie plumbers/electricians/buliders/social workers/nurses etc etc)' is this true!? is this a joke?

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I take it you dont have a car or use public transport that uses petrol or deisel or fly in a plane ? it really irritates me that people whinge about smokers who drive ,HELLO your car spews out more deadly toxins than one little fag but in your hermatically and air conditioned environment you dont breath it in ,except you do every time you walk along a pavement ! Friendly a quite word with the landlord is really your best tactic ,as this is as much about noise pollution as anything else

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Whats the world coming to?

havent read every post........what about environmental health- or the local council? can you talk to them? or get a petition going with you and the neighbours?

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if people didn't make such a fuss about smokers in pubs they wouldnt be outside and from what i remember leaving pubs smoker or non smoker quite common to hang around outside so i would imagine its quite common to have people outside pub anyway

I am shocked that they have a license until 1.30am on a Sunday! Seems rather relaxed. Round here chucking out time is much earlier.

I think that rather than having a blanket ban, they should have gone for a more moderate approach, allowing establishments to opt out, advertising themselves as a non-smoking business premises. So you could have smoking pubs and non-smoking pubs. That would at least give people a choice. You want to come home smelling nice, then go to the non-smoking pub. You want to smoke? Then go to the smoking pub.

Agree that there should be no smoking in all restaurants though, and sppose that it would be a rather grey area dealing with pubs serving food.

Ho hum.

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everyone wanted smoking banned in pubs and public places. .......now you complain that they are in the street

well i personally think its fucking dispicabubble.

we would never smoke in the street would we custenstein ?

would we fuck - its common

I agree Pooka.

My problem with the pub has only begun since the smoking ban came in, Mother Funk. Therefore I think my problem and yours too by the sound of it is the law.

Like most people I can't just up and move house unfortunately. Kicking out time was never a problem before because I was probably asleep. Now there's never a lull in the noise to allow a peaceful going off to sleep. I don't go to bed early by any means but I don't think it's unreasonable to object to noise in the street at 12.30am during the week.

I'm with you 100% friendly. It's about give and take - there is a garden to use after all. I personally think that 12.30 is very late during the week when most people have to be up for work or school the next morning. It's not really an issue of smoking as far as I can see.

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Well I'm in bed by 10.30pm on Sundays and weeknights usually. Would be incredibly pissed off if I was in the same boat.

Yes I do MF. DH is up by 6.30am and I'm up 15mins later. If I was kept awake until 12.30 every weeknight then, yes, I'd be seriously p*d off!

Friendly - you're not being unreasonable imo. I would find this intolerable and would take action. I really HATE smoking though!

We live oppposite a pub in the middle of town and have the same noise problem at the weekends. I work early Saturday mornings as well and the noise of the karoke and people shouting in/out of the pub drives you potty!

Twas always going to be a problem when they rushed in a smoking ban without taking into account the knock-on effect, such as people like you who are now being disturbed in your own home.

People are going to smoke. Unless the government make smoking itself illegal, then banning smoking in all indoor places is going to push smokers out on to the street.

Yanbu, and you have my sympathy but I don't know what you can do about it.