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An airplane seat one- not had one of these for a while

438 replies

Cheeseandlobster · 28/08/2020 12:26

Was flying back from holiday yesterday in an aisle seat. There was a mother and daughter on the plane, the daughter being about 14. They had originally been sat in someone else's extra legroom seats at the front and had to then move to the row behind me where there was an empty aisle seat. The daughter was very vocal about being unhappy with how little room she was going to have then insisted she had to have her suitcase at her feet which the cabin crew did not police.

Shortly after take off the woman in the seat next to me started vomiting. I am emetaphobic so as soon as I could I moved to the aisle seat behind.

Well you would think I was devil incarnate
The daughter and the mum made passive aggressive comments for a lot of the flight to each other. They wanted to stretch out and sleep and now they couldn't. The daughter said she couldn't handle this. They both had their suitcases at their feet so the mum's shoes were in my leg space, but no effort was made to move them. Lots of pointed elbowing when I was trying to sleep and just general whinging. I was damned if I was going to react and just ignored them. It was clear this entitled mum was raising an equally as entitled daughter. They must have known there was a strong chance there would be someone else in their space but they were just so annoyed by it.

When they got off the mum pulled a woman's hair quite hard by mistake but I heard her laughing about it with her daughter in baggage reclaim as the woman had pulled her up on pushing in shortly after so this apparently was funny.

I am sure I wasn't unreasonable but it would be great to hear about other entitled passengers. I I have always loved hearing these stories

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LaMarschallin · 30/08/2020 10:17

I enjoy threads like this but they inevitably contain "Things I wish had happened/Responses I wish I'd thought of at the time" posts.

Should have added "imo" there.

Obviously, I don't know, just strongly suspect.

honeygirlz · 30/08/2020 10:19

I find it really sad that there seem to be so many parents who don’t want to sit with their child.

I know someone who as a child was sitting between a parent and a strange man during a flight, and the man took pictures of child mid-flight. Totally irresponsible not to sit with your young kids.

honeygirlz · 30/08/2020 10:21

And people spontaneously bursting into applause and/or complimenting the poster for their actions happens more often than I'd expect too.

I’ve applauded a few people here and have no qualms about it, I love it when people stand up for themselves.

I didn’t even acknowledge the young footballer story (was it supposed to be Theo Walcott?!) as seemed like total bullshit.

PablosHoney · 30/08/2020 10:26

I’d hate to be separated from my kids, I didn’t even know airlines would let you do that 😱

LaMarschallin · 30/08/2020 10:26

I’ve applauded a few people here and have no qualms about it

I meant people saying it happened at the time: "I asked a big, nasty man to stop lying down over three seats so that I could sit down and the other passengers clapped me..." posts.

Not other posters telling people posting here well done and they think they did the right thing.

yahoosername · 30/08/2020 10:34

"I’d hate to be separated from my kids, I didn’t even know airlines would let you do that"

They actively work it into their systems so that you have to pay extra to be seated together. Shouldn't be allowed. Over my dead body is my young child sitting with a stranger on a flight though so we pay whatever it costs

PablosHoney · 30/08/2020 10:36

I haven’t flown since my seven year old was a baby but I’ll remember this next time.

Nsky · 30/08/2020 10:44

I was on the way to my parents funerals, by train at kings cross, all seemed fine.
Got on at allocated seats, two stops before my destination an elderly couple board, have special assistance and allocated seats.
The seats occupied by a family refused to move, i did and the guy sat next to me did.
I did comment loudly how selfish they were, and I was explained I was attending funerals.
Thanks from the couple, no apology from family tho

SBTLove · 30/08/2020 11:18

I’m half way through reading the thread and I jaw dropped at @SimonJT comment that someone wiping his drink before passing it to him 🤢😳 what is wrong with people??

SBTLove · 30/08/2020 11:18

*sipping

ChristmasinJune · 30/08/2020 11:26

@OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow

Aaand one more. Going on hol with bil and sil and our teen daughters, non bookable seats so the free for all ensued. Both men are quite tall so the nice flight attendant advised sitting over the wing. We got there First amazingly, to find a child sat at window. No room for all of us so I sit behind in a spare seat with A couple. Kid then start turning round to the mum and dad I was sat with and asking for stuff. Attendant comes along for checking and asks if the kid was ours as they can’t sit in those seats. Silence from the couple. Attendant loudly asked who the child was travelling with. Still silent. Attendant asks the kid (who went all shy suddenly) then says if the child can’t be identified the plane will not take off. We tell them who he belongs to. I get moved back to fam (and window seat, yes!) We hear loud whispered row all flight from mum and dad about not wanting to sit with kid.(tbf he was good)
Oh God the poor child, how rubbish must they have felt?
BeingATwatItsABingThing · 30/08/2020 12:04

@honeygirlz

I find it really sad that there seem to be so many parents who don’t want to sit with their child.

I know someone who as a child was sitting between a parent and a strange man during a flight, and the man took pictures of child mid-flight. Totally irresponsible not to sit with your young kids.

This would be my nightmare. I wouldn’t even let DD sit next to the stranger unless there was no other choice. She always sits between DH and me or one of us and the wall.
Stannisbaratheonsboxofmatches · 30/08/2020 12:32

I wouldn’t want my kids sitting anywhere but with me either! Awful. Both bad parenting to expect others to look after you kid so you get some peace and even worse that you have no idea who they’ll be next to!

I didn’t have anything happen to me as a kid, but once as a teen, when my family were for some reason all split up, an elderly man was perving over my legs really obviously. My Mum noticed and swapped with me, but at first she didn’t realise it was a bad thing Shock . Like she thought it was a great compliment and told me, and it was only when I reacted in utter horror that we then swapped.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/08/2020 12:34

...an elderly couple board, have special assistance and allocated seats. The seats occupied by a family refused to move, i did and the guy sat next to me did. I did comment loudly how selfish they were...

IME you need France for that; I've seen numerous bus passengers have a go at younger folk for refusing to give up seats for a senior, and they don't hold back

Surprised nobody's mentioned armrests being raised by newly-boarded large folk so they can have "a bit more room" (aka yours) - and before the shouting starts it's not necessarily about obesity since muscular bulk can cause the same

Fortunately FAA regs dictate that they have to be down during takeoff, so it's entirely reasonable to refuse and if they really can't fit that's an issue they can take up with the cabin crew

TessTackle · 30/08/2020 14:10

Really sad to have got to the end of this..
Am I over invested? Quite possibly Grin

MulticolourMophead · 30/08/2020 14:15

And a train one. I was travelling from Sheffield to London and the train was solid. People getting on and standing as normal. On one of the pairs of seats a young woman was sat with her feet up on the second seat with her suitcase wedged in the foot space. Many people were coming up and asking her to move, she point blank refused as she’d booked both seats so she could do just that. Which is allowed, but cfery at boss level.

That's not CF, because if she paid for both seats, she could do what she liked with both seats.

Stannisbaratheonsboxofmatches · 30/08/2020 14:33

armrests being raised by newly-boarded large folk so they can have "a bit more room" (aka yours)

This drives me mad, along with men who may or may not be large spreading into your seat.

I think armrests on trains and planes should be impossible to raise and should completely partition the seats, so that there’s no space underneath them either. My space is my space not anyone else’s for any reason!

Stannisbaratheonsboxofmatches · 30/08/2020 14:33

Or at the very least it should be possible to lock them down.

honeygirlz · 30/08/2020 14:33

@LaMarschallin

I’ve applauded a few people here and have no qualms about it

I meant people saying it happened at the time: "I asked a big, nasty man to stop lying down over three seats so that I could sit down and the other passengers clapped me..." posts.

Not other posters telling people posting here well done and they think they did the right thing.

Oh I see.
Cheeseandlobster · 30/08/2020 14:59

I booked 2 seats once on a train and was told by the conducter that I had only paid for passage of travel and not the seats so if someone else wanted to sit there I would not be able to refuse. I ended up with a lovely lady next to me and we chatted all the way back

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Stannisbaratheonsboxofmatches · 30/08/2020 15:21

That’s interesting OP. But you’d actually booked the seats not just bought two tickets?

KatherineJaneway · 30/08/2020 15:31

Boarded a plane with family. Arrived at our seats to find people sitting in them. I was polite and said 'excuse me, you are in our seats'. They replied 'we are family and want to sit together', I replied 'So are we, now hoppit' with a don't mess with me look. Job done.

KatherineJaneway · 30/08/2020 15:35

Also flew to Italy a while back, boarding was such a faff. All the people not knowing their row or seat number apparently. Families faffing about as to who will sit with whom. You've had time at the airport to figure it out. Failing that Seatguru people!

DeRigueurMortis · 30/08/2020 15:53

I've a good one....

I was flying back from the USA (work trip) and the company had paid for me to fly Virgin Premium Economy (their equivalent of business class, so bigger seats, more space, better recline, better food etc)

It has a 2/3/2 seating arrangement and I was in the "3" section.

A couple sat next to me and asked if I'd mind swapping seats with their teen DD so they could sit together.

Fair enough I thought given I was travelling alone so wasn't really bothered where I sat....until I realised that they wanted me to swap with their DD seats who was in economy because they had only paid for premium tickets for themselves Grin...

They actually called me selfish for not swapping - CF's in the extreme...

Thisismytimetoshine · 30/08/2020 15:58

@DeRigueurMortis

I've a good one....

I was flying back from the USA (work trip) and the company had paid for me to fly Virgin Premium Economy (their equivalent of business class, so bigger seats, more space, better recline, better food etc)

It has a 2/3/2 seating arrangement and I was in the "3" section.

A couple sat next to me and asked if I'd mind swapping seats with their teen DD so they could sit together.

Fair enough I thought given I was travelling alone so wasn't really bothered where I sat....until I realised that they wanted me to swap with their DD seats who was in economy because they had only paid for premium tickets for themselves Grin...

They actually called me selfish for not swapping - CF's in the extreme...

You'd actually wonder at the mentality of people like this 🙄. Imagine going through life thinking this is an acceptable way to behave.