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An airplane seat one- not had one of these for a while

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Cheeseandlobster · 28/08/2020 12:26

Was flying back from holiday yesterday in an aisle seat. There was a mother and daughter on the plane, the daughter being about 14. They had originally been sat in someone else's extra legroom seats at the front and had to then move to the row behind me where there was an empty aisle seat. The daughter was very vocal about being unhappy with how little room she was going to have then insisted she had to have her suitcase at her feet which the cabin crew did not police.

Shortly after take off the woman in the seat next to me started vomiting. I am emetaphobic so as soon as I could I moved to the aisle seat behind.

Well you would think I was devil incarnate
The daughter and the mum made passive aggressive comments for a lot of the flight to each other. They wanted to stretch out and sleep and now they couldn't. The daughter said she couldn't handle this. They both had their suitcases at their feet so the mum's shoes were in my leg space, but no effort was made to move them. Lots of pointed elbowing when I was trying to sleep and just general whinging. I was damned if I was going to react and just ignored them. It was clear this entitled mum was raising an equally as entitled daughter. They must have known there was a strong chance there would be someone else in their space but they were just so annoyed by it.

When they got off the mum pulled a woman's hair quite hard by mistake but I heard her laughing about it with her daughter in baggage reclaim as the woman had pulled her up on pushing in shortly after so this apparently was funny.

I am sure I wasn't unreasonable but it would be great to hear about other entitled passengers. I I have always loved hearing these stories

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liveitwell · 30/08/2020 07:50

How nasty of you. First you took the piss out of him for his size. Then you act like you did him a favour by engaging small talk (I would hate that). Then judge him for going abroad 6 times a year? What's wrong with you?

BitOfFun · 30/08/2020 08:40

Which poster are you addressing, liveitwell? It's a long thread.

AllTheCakes · 30/08/2020 08:47

I spent a couple of years in my early twenties as cabin crew. I say a couple of years as that’s all I could tolerate serving entitled, impatient and rude people. Most passengers were nice, but others could be absolutely vile.

One of my worst experiences was having a passenger die in the toilet a couple of hours in to a flight back from the Caribbean. Lots of calls for doctors and nurses as the crew attempted resuscitation to no avail. Some passengers were moaning that the bar service was taking too long and they wanted their meal. Someone had died and all they could think about was that their G+T hadn’t yet materialised.

Another time a passenger suffered a severe allergic reaction so we had to divert the plane to get emergency assistance. Cue snide remarks from other passengers asking why we couldn’t just keep flying to the destination, he didn’t look that unwell apparently...

One of my pet hates was passengers changing nappies on the seats, then heading me dirty nappies to put in the bin. The same with bags full of still warm vomit Envy

sueelleker · 30/08/2020 08:53

@AllTheCakes; Serous question-what should I do with a bag of vomit?

FranklySonImTheGaffer · 30/08/2020 08:54

My story is a bit odd only because I seemed to annoy someone by being nice.
Flew from Vegas to San Francisco so not a long flight. Plane layout was 2 seats, aisle, 3 seats, aisle, 2 seats.
DH & I were sat together in a row of 3 with a spare seat.
A lady got on with 2 children (approx 5 and 8yo) to find that, despite booking seats together, she had somehow been put on a row of 2 and her other child had a seat quite far away.
We asked if she was ok, explained the situation and offered to swap so we'd be in the row of 2 (perfect for us) and she could have our row of 3.

Before we could swap, a random man from a few rows behind approached and launched into a speech about how the woman was cheeky for making us move seats and thinking she's so important just because she's a mother Shock He kept talking about our right to our assigned seats and asking if we knew we didn't have to move?

It had nothing to do with him and if anything, DH & I were happier with the little row of 2. The lovely crew intervened quite quickly and were very sharp with him but it took ages to get him to go away.

AllTheCakes · 30/08/2020 08:57

@sueelleker Ideally double sick bag wrapped up and put in the toilet bin. The crew are serving food and drink, so you don’t want them handling bodily fluids.

BadLad · 30/08/2020 09:00

@FranklySonImTheGaffer

My story is a bit odd only because I seemed to annoy someone by being nice. Flew from Vegas to San Francisco so not a long flight. Plane layout was 2 seats, aisle, 3 seats, aisle, 2 seats. DH & I were sat together in a row of 3 with a spare seat. A lady got on with 2 children (approx 5 and 8yo) to find that, despite booking seats together, she had somehow been put on a row of 2 and her other child had a seat quite far away. We asked if she was ok, explained the situation and offered to swap so we'd be in the row of 2 (perfect for us) and she could have our row of 3.

Before we could swap, a random man from a few rows behind approached and launched into a speech about how the woman was cheeky for making us move seats and thinking she's so important just because she's a mother Shock He kept talking about our right to our assigned seats and asking if we knew we didn't have to move?

It had nothing to do with him and if anything, DH & I were happier with the little row of 2. The lovely crew intervened quite quickly and were very sharp with him but it took ages to get him to go away.

The random man is obviously a mumsnetter.
ItalianHat · 30/08/2020 09:00

They said I was the only person who could as the woman needed an aisle seat and I was the only person in an aisle seat travelling alone.

@UnspeakableBode I wouldn't have moved. I find that trip to Australia needs planning and stamina. And I try to avoid QANTAS - their cabin service staff can be quite rude.

sueelleker · 30/08/2020 09:03

@AllTheCakes Thank you. We don't usually have problems, but it's good to know.

honeygirlz · 30/08/2020 09:07

@yahoosername

"yahoosername what utter nonsense. Of course you should wake a parent if their 3 year old is running amok."

@Daisyhut Hmm yes, of course you should, where did I say that you shouldn't? What "utter nonsense" to suggest I said that Grin

My point is there's need to start calling them "selfish shits" and giving them a run down on their lack of parenting skills though though is there? They fell asleep, just the same as the OP did. Their kid snuck out. Purposelessly starting a confrontation with another passenger mid-flight is unnecessary to say the least.

Do you enjoy just making up your own versions of what happened? The OP didn’t say the kid snuck out. Nice twist tho.

Coralling your kid is putting them in the window seat so they have to clamber over two parents if they try and get out. It’s very common, I see it all the time. And most parents would not sleep on whilst their 3yo climbing over them.

Chemenger · 30/08/2020 09:11

@notimagain

It was an afternoon flight. Whyyyyyy 30 minutes ffs you can go without reclining the chair for that

TBF the degree of reasonableness might depend on what the "recliner" had been up to before the flight..for example if they'd connected from a long haul flight (not uncommon with some networked airlines) and had stuff all sleep the previous night the opportunity for a last thirty minutes/hour sleep before the car park or tube is precious and too good to miss ...I've certainly reclined my seat (carefully) in those circumstances at that time of day and grabbed some ZZs..

Absolutely, I’ve flown from the USA via Ireland a few times and I’m always out for the count on the final Ireland to Scotland hop, if the seats reclined on Stobart Air I would be very tempted to do so.
yahoosername · 30/08/2020 09:16

@honeygirlz are you ok? Of course people could stay asleep as their kid snuck past. 3 year olds can be pretty sneaky sometimes. It's more likely that happened than the parents threw him into the aisle before going to sleep surely?

I have worked out the "coral" thing but thanks. It's "Corral".

Anyway, no matter how the kid ended up in the aisle (pretty big presumption from the poster that he didn't sneak past his sleeping parents).....I would not be applauding anyone who "let rip" (her words) and starting swearing and name calling at other passengers mid-flight. There's a time and a place and that isn't it.

honeygirlz · 30/08/2020 09:19

Thanks for the enquiry about my health and the SPAG pedantry, I’m just fine. Smile

I’m guessing you’re the type of parent who would dump their kid on the aisle for others to parent, so you crack on pet.

yahoosername · 30/08/2020 09:23

Wtf is wrong with you? 😂

Jeez - no, my kids don't run around planes, but then I can't sleep on them either. Are you honestly ok with a passenger taking it upon herself to "let rip" at some other (probably pretty disoriented as they've just woken) passengers? Mid-flight?

There's no need for it. Not sure why you're getting so worked up at me though. Confrontation and aggression on flights is the worst - maybe you don't mind it.

Lucyccfc68 · 30/08/2020 09:24

@yahoosername

Love the embellishment to my story, considering you were not there.

The parents were in the window and middle seat. The child’s blanket and toy was in the aisle seat, so they had not made sure their child was safe. I didn’t give them a run down on their parenting skills. The conversation was very brief and went something like:

Me: excuse me, excuse me (to wake them up). I have brought your child back, as he is running up and down the plane.

Parent: I was asleep, you just woke me up.

Me: your child is running up and down the plane, disturbing others.

Parent: yes, I was trying to sleep too, what’s the problem, why did you wake me.

Me: (at this point knackered and needing to get back to my own child, who was asleep in the window seat). Look after your child and stop letting him disturb everyone, you selfish shit.

I profusely apologise @yahoosername for only doing a quick post last night and not relaying the story word for word.

They were selfish for allowing their child to just run up and down the plane while they didn’t give a shit, as they went to sleep. I didn’t need to comment on their parenting skills, as they speak for themselves.

yahoosername · 30/08/2020 09:29

Crikey, everyone is a bit emotional about it.

What you've just described is completely different to the original "I let rip".

Obviously your version of "letting rip" is different to mine. Confused

honeygirlz · 30/08/2020 09:30

@Lucyccfc68 don’t worry your quick post was enough for most people to understand you were a hero, we all didn’t need the word for word story but hopefully it’ll shut some people up!

yahoosername · 30/08/2020 09:35

Hero 🤣🤣

Yes, sorry Lucy - now I know you didn't actually "let rip" on a flight I agree. Total lifesaver Grin

Lucyccfc68 · 30/08/2020 09:42

That is my version of letting rip 😂

I was knackered and pissed off and my tone of voice wasn’t polite, although I did start off polite. They deserved to be called selfish shits.

Cheers @honeygirlz. I have just ‘let rip’ with my sarcasm 😂.

OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow · 30/08/2020 09:47

Aaand one more. Going on hol with bil and sil and our teen daughters, non bookable seats so the free for all ensued. Both men are quite tall so the nice flight attendant advised sitting over the wing. We got there First amazingly, to find a child sat at window. No room for all of us so I sit behind in a spare seat with A couple. Kid then start turning round to the mum and dad I was sat with and asking for stuff. Attendant comes along for checking and asks if the kid was ours as they can’t sit in those seats. Silence from the couple. Attendant loudly asked who the child was travelling with. Still silent. Attendant asks the kid (who went all shy suddenly) then says if the child can’t be identified the plane will not take off. We tell them who he belongs to. I get moved back to fam (and window seat, yes!) We hear loud whispered row all flight from mum and dad about not wanting to sit with kid.(tbf he was good)

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 30/08/2020 09:50

I find it really sad that there seem to be so many parents who don’t want to sit with their child. I don’t mean the parents who take it in turns so one of them gets a break. Just the ones whose children are literally sat in a different row through the parents’ choice and then make it very clear they don’t want the responsibility of looking after them. Poor children!

Pelleas · 30/08/2020 09:55

I find it really sad that there seem to be so many parents who don’t want to sit with their child.

I find it astounding that they are prepared to trust their child with randoms on a plane.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 30/08/2020 09:57

@Pelleas

Yes, that too!

user1496146479 · 30/08/2020 10:13

Really enjoying this thread. Especially as we can't fly right now!
No bad stories from me. Just one good one. Flying to Singapore once, on bus to terminal, I met a lady traveling alone with two young dc, one in sling. She had bags, folded buggy etc.
They were late on their connecting flight & rushing. I helped her by running with her, carrying the buggy etc. Wished her well & I assume she made her flight.
Got to my flight later, I'd been upgraded from economy to super economy! Not business, but much more comfy! I guess it was good karma!

LaMarschallin · 30/08/2020 10:15

UnaCorda

Bullshit. Either you, or the stewardess.

Yes, does sound a bit fictional...

I enjoy threads like this but they inevitably contain "Things I wish had happened/Responses I wish I'd thought of at the time" posts.
And people spontaneously bursting into applause and/or complimenting the poster for their actions happens more often than I'd expect too.