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An airplane seat one- not had one of these for a while

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Cheeseandlobster · 28/08/2020 12:26

Was flying back from holiday yesterday in an aisle seat. There was a mother and daughter on the plane, the daughter being about 14. They had originally been sat in someone else's extra legroom seats at the front and had to then move to the row behind me where there was an empty aisle seat. The daughter was very vocal about being unhappy with how little room she was going to have then insisted she had to have her suitcase at her feet which the cabin crew did not police.

Shortly after take off the woman in the seat next to me started vomiting. I am emetaphobic so as soon as I could I moved to the aisle seat behind.

Well you would think I was devil incarnate
The daughter and the mum made passive aggressive comments for a lot of the flight to each other. They wanted to stretch out and sleep and now they couldn't. The daughter said she couldn't handle this. They both had their suitcases at their feet so the mum's shoes were in my leg space, but no effort was made to move them. Lots of pointed elbowing when I was trying to sleep and just general whinging. I was damned if I was going to react and just ignored them. It was clear this entitled mum was raising an equally as entitled daughter. They must have known there was a strong chance there would be someone else in their space but they were just so annoyed by it.

When they got off the mum pulled a woman's hair quite hard by mistake but I heard her laughing about it with her daughter in baggage reclaim as the woman had pulled her up on pushing in shortly after so this apparently was funny.

I am sure I wasn't unreasonable but it would be great to hear about other entitled passengers. I I have always loved hearing these stories

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yahoosername · 29/08/2020 23:47

@Lucyccfc68 eh? So you went to sleep with your child there but they were "selfish shits" for doing the same? Confused

gurglebelly · 29/08/2020 23:50

[quote yahoosername]@Lucyccfc68 eh? So you went to sleep with your child there but they were "selfish shits" for doing the same? Confused[/quote]
If the kid was awake and disturbing everyone else on the plane? Yes they were

honeygirlz · 29/08/2020 23:51

@keffie12

Got on my flight home from Kefelonia 2 years ago. It was my first time back there since my husband passed in the March. We go every year.

I booked a last minute week to ease me back in. I had booked my ailse seats, near the front going there and back as I need toilet access and it can be urgent

Got on and someone was in my booked seat. I hadn't checked the ticket as I didn't think I needed too.

A male flight attendant came over and was a bit off with me. He checked my ticket and told me I was incorrect.

They had changed my seat at check-in and not bothered to tell me. The people who had my seat had not booked seats.

The flight was busy so because I was traveling on my own they moved me further down the plane to a middle seat so they could have seats together.

I refused point blank to take the seat they had reallocated me. It was a middle seat in the middle of the plane.

I told the attendant I had booked that seat, I hadn't been told of the change and the reason I had booked it. I also have physical hidden disabilities too.

I was not going right in the middle of the plane in an inside seat. I managed to get my original booking summary out of my bag and show it to the attendant.

He then found me an ailse seat by asking a couple to move down in the seat row to the window and middle seat a couple of rows down from where i was.

The airline got a very sharp email when I got home. I got a refund on booked seat and an apology

Excellent! So refreshing to read you actually spoke up.
Thisismytimetoshine · 29/08/2020 23:53

[quote yahoosername]@Lucyccfc68 eh? So you went to sleep with your child there but they were "selfish shits" for doing the same? Confused[/quote]
They kicked off when woken, instead of apologising like any civilised person would do.

JassyRadlett · 30/08/2020 00:01

Dh was smugly amused as our kids slept through the whole frigging flight.

Oh I had one of these too. We fly once a year to Australia via Singapore and the flight down from Singapore is a 3-3-3 configuration. We take it in turns for one of us to sit with the two kids and one to sit solo.

On the flight down DH had a spare seat beside him and had an utterly wonderful flight.

On the flight back up to Singapore I had someone else’s 4/5 year old next to me. As we take off, his mother (sweet but self-absorbed and fairly useless) hands him her phone with the sound on as ‘she forgot to get kids headphones for him.’ I get the ones my kids aren’t using (they have their own with plane adapters) and give them to her as asking the flight attendant seems to be beyond her powers. Kid spends most of the flight jumping up and down, jostling the seat in front of him while trying to use the touch screen, spilling his juice from the open cup (cup holder was on my side of his seat; mother kept getting refills for his juice before going back to sleep.) I made some pointed suggestions to which she was totally oblivious and I wasn’t up for rude confrontation in front of her child or my kids on a long flight. Kid’s behaviour was irritating but not intolerable.

Meanwhile my little toads angels hardly moved for the entire flight, except to eat their meals nicely and ask DH to change the movie/get out their crayons/whatever other angelic thing that they could come up with.

He was unbearably smug.

Lucyccfc68 · 30/08/2020 00:04

@yahoosername read my post. My child was already asleep (not running up and down the plane). As my child was already asleep in the seat next to me - then yes, I also fell asleep.

Alwaysinpain · 30/08/2020 00:05

@AntFarm

I flew on a four hour flight last week and had to sit between two people, in a middle seat. The man in the aisle seat was a total arsehole, and wouldn't let me put my elbow on the arm rest at all. He purposely took up as much room as possible and whenever I tried to perch my elbow on it too he shoved it off as hard as he could. He also refused to get up to allow me to use the loo halfway during the flight. He thought I was travelling alone and didn't realise my 6ft 3, 19 stone DH was sitting two rows in front and I loudly told DH what this man had been doing when he was standing at baggage reclaim near us. He soon scarpered! Nasty little man!
You waited until baggage claim to tell your husband you were being bullied & assaulted whilst inches away from him??? WHY?!?
JassyRadlett · 30/08/2020 00:06

So you went to sleep with your child there but they were "selfish shits" for doing the same?

First rule on sleeping on a plane with sleeping kids (obv never sleep while small kid is awake): make sure kid is corralled in a such a way that the kid can’t leave their seat without waking you first. Generally window seat + parent (pref 2 parents). But kid never ever goes on the aisle.

Whitneylilyrose · 30/08/2020 00:11

Firstly I thought shes just a bratty teen until you commented on the mum doing this as well..
Lucky isn't wasn't me because I would have argued back.

Alwaysinpain · 30/08/2020 00:13

[quote Newfornow]@FaffingForEngland.. that’s not funny actually.
Also either they tools off their trainers or your friend removed a shoe, can’t be both.[/quote]
Are you serious? HmmHmmHmm

Alwaysinpain · 30/08/2020 00:18

@Nandocushion

I had booked an aisle seat for my 9 hour flight. Got on and found a middle-aged man sitting in it (I was 20something female). He explained to me that he didn't like sitting in the centre seat; I said I didn't either and that's why I'd booked the aisle seat, and asked him to move. He did, grumbled and fidgeted, then while the plane was still boarding got up and walked off down the aisle - I assumed to speak to a flight attendant.

The flight finished boarding and no sign of him. A flight attendant came up to my row and asked me and the window seat passenger if we were named X - neither of us was. After some consternation amongst the crew, it transpired that X was the man who'd been sat in my seat, and he'd left the plane and gone back into the airport and disappeared! They didn't find him through making announcements, so we all had to get back off the plane and watch while they took it out to the middle of the runway area and surround it with emergency vehicles while they located all his luggage to remove it from the plane. We were delayed by more than two hours, all apparently because Mr Entitled didn't get the aisle seat he felt should have been his!

I now work in aviation and there's absolutely no need for them to have taken the aircraft to the runway and surrounded with emergency vehicles, just to offload a passenger's baggage. Offloading baggage due to awol passengers happens frequently in fact on more flights than not! This is done swiftly whilst still on the ramp. It does not cause a two hour delay! There must've been more to it????
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honeygirlz · 30/08/2020 00:26

@OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow

And a train one. I was travelling from Sheffield to London and the train was solid. People getting on and standing as normal. On one of the pairs of seats a young woman was sat with her feet up on the second seat with her suitcase wedged in the foot space. Many people were coming up and asking her to move, she point blank refused as she’d booked both seats so she could do just that. Which is allowed, but cfery at boss level.
How is it CFery if she paid for 2 seats? Confused
honeygirlz · 30/08/2020 00:31

[quote thisstooshallpass]@Nquartz pretty sure there's already been a AMA from a trolley dolley?![/quote]
Very sexist.

yahoosername · 30/08/2020 00:35

"yahoosername read my post. My child was already asleep (not running up and down the plane). As my child was already asleep in the seat next to me - then yes, I also fell asleep."

@Lucyccfc68 yes I read your post. Nowhere does it say that they went to sleep whilst the child was awake. You couldn't have known whether they did or not. They may have done exactly the same as you did

honeygirlz · 30/08/2020 01:04

@yahoosername as a pp said, the etiquette is to coral your child in the window seat so they have to wake you if they try and get out to cause havoc.

honeygirlz · 30/08/2020 01:06

@Lucyccfc68

13 hour flight from Brazil and I had the middle seat, whilst my DS had the aisle seat. Bloke already sat in his window seat when we got on the flight, but he had his legs and feet in the footwell of my seat. I politely asked him to move his legs and he said ‘Can’t you see how tall I am - I need the leg room’.

Look on his face when I said ‘no, but I can see the male entitlement, so move your bloody legs or I will sit on them’.

Can’t be doing with entitled, rude people, it makes me very stroppy 😂

👏👏👏
honeygirlz · 30/08/2020 01:10

@EstuaryBird

Got off a cruise at Malta to fly back to UK. Most people hadn’t pre-booked seats so we were all checking in.

We were towards the back of the queue and were chatting to others about chances of whether we’d get seated as couples or be split up. Couple in front of us gave us thumbs up that they were together.

We got to desk and asked politely if we could be seated together, check in chap didn’t speak but peered at his screen for a long time then printed our boarding passes and gave them to us without a word.....we looked and DH was in a middle seat on one side of the plane and I was in a middle seat 10 rows back on the other side.

When we all met up at the bar we were (not very) surprised to discover that the 3 couples we were chatting with were all seated together and 2 of them had checked in after us...... DH is Black and we’ve experienced this crap more than once in our 30 years together.

I tried and tried complaining to the Maltese airport authorities and BA but was consistently told that this didn’t happen and it was our own fault for not pre-booking seats....

@EstuaryBird If there were no seats together he would have said so, so sadly I think you’re right and he was a racist twat Sad
yahoosername · 30/08/2020 01:36

"as a pp said, the etiquette is to coral your child in the window seat so they have to wake you if they try and get out to cause havoc."

I don't know what "coral your child" means but it's entirely possible that the child snuck past his sleeping parents. With stories here of kids crawling under seats it isn't that hard to imagine.

Still, I wouldn't appreciate any passenger that took it upon themselves to wake another passenger and call them names in that environment. The poster seems to think the whole plane were thankful.....yes, that she'd returned the kid. Probably less so if they'd witnessed how she decided to undertake that.

Weenurse · 30/08/2020 01:39

We also have learned to book 2 aisle seats as both tall and I need to go to the toilet frequently.
I have booked window and aisle in past, person between us does not tend to know we are traveling together until we de board plane.

oomymoomy · 30/08/2020 02:54

@roarfeckingroarr Oh, flying in China is an Experience. Boy do I have some stories! Grin

Daisyhut · 30/08/2020 04:19

@yahoosername what utter nonsense. Of course you should wake a parent if their 3 year old is running amok.

Scrubsmum · 30/08/2020 04:59

My friend once told me she was in a flight and sat down in her seat. She immediately felt wet. Turns out someone had peed in the seat on previous flight. She stands up and alerts hostess who tries everything to dry her and the seat out but informs her there are no spare seats so she had to travel the rest of the flight seating on paper towels

poohsticks30 · 30/08/2020 06:58

I did a two leg trip a couple of years ago. On the first leg(very short flight. I was sat in the aisle next to a man who complained and whinged about EVERYTHING! He asked to swap seats but I explained that I couldn't due to being very claustrophobic. For the rest of the flight If I moved, reached forward to get something, put my tray down to put a drink on ect he would tut, exhale loudly or complain to anyone. On the way off the plan he literally pushed me out of the way. When I got to boarding the second flight he was there again and again he pushed me out of the line. When the steward told him he was on the aisle seat he turned and smirked at me. Funnily enough he stopped laughing when the steward said to me "Welcome aboard Miss. We have upgraded your ticket and you will be in business class". Don't know what was better the comfort of business class for a 14 hrs flight or seeing his face!

yahoosername · 30/08/2020 07:41

"yahoosername what utter nonsense. Of course you should wake a parent if their 3 year old is running amok."

@Daisyhut Hmm yes, of course you should, where did I say that you shouldn't? What "utter nonsense" to suggest I said that Grin

My point is there's need to start calling them "selfish shits" and giving them a run down on their lack of parenting skills though though is there? They fell asleep, just the same as the OP did. Their kid snuck out. Purposelessly starting a confrontation with another passenger mid-flight is unnecessary to say the least.