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What crime stories have you been obsessed by?

598 replies

WomenHour · 27/08/2020 21:43

I was griped by the James Bulger murder 25 years ago

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PablosHoney · 30/08/2020 22:09

I do think the OP itself is worded oddly and it’s strange the actual OP herself/himself has not made even one further comment

x2boys · 30/08/2020 22:10

People do find true crime fascinating including me I watch the crime and investigation channel all the time and clearly I'm not the only one .

Grilledaubergines · 30/08/2020 23:06

Another which interests me is the case of Stephen Lawrence. The details are horrific but my interest has been with the case itself, the resulting change in the law, and the length of time it took to convict only half of the bastards who took Stephen’s life. So much corruption.

tobee · 30/08/2020 23:16

For me the fascination with murder is that it's (arguably) the "worst" crime to commit, as in there's no cure from death (Confused). And what causes someone to cross the line and take that ultimate step.

Secondary to that, is in reading/listening to/watching the stories you find out about people's lives; people living in different eras, people living in different countries, people living now and nearby even.

tobee · 30/08/2020 23:18

@x2boys

People do find true crime fascinating including me I watch the crime and investigation channel all the time and clearly I'm not the only one .

This is obvious if you look at the demand for the reasonably recent phenomenon of true crime podcasts. There are sooo many!

Rubyupbeat · 30/08/2020 23:29

Jani and Bodhi schofield case.
Very sad, but also interesting, bearing in mind the mother had a vlog about them and their 'problems'
Loads on youtube.

shesellsseashells99 · 31/08/2020 08:12

Again not obsessed but so saddened by this. The thai backpacker - Hannah Witheridge and her friend who got murdered on that thai island after a night out. The thing that makes me even more upset is that her sister recently passed away too so the parents have lost both their daughters...

LadyEloise · 31/08/2020 09:10

The missing women in Leinster, Ireland.
I'm not obsessed by them but would so like them to be solved for their loved ones sake.
Some are not solved because of lack of evidence to convict. Others are mysterious, though one suspect's name is out in the media.

hastingsmua1 · 31/08/2020 12:59

I don’t find the crime itself interesting (let’s be honest it’s just morbid) but I do find the police investigation side of things interesting. Then again I studied a criminology module during my psychology degree so it’s interesting seeing certain techniques in action

Snufkins · 31/08/2020 13:56

Andrew Gosden - not necessarily a crime as to why he’s still missing but I wonder what happened to him.

WiserOlder · 31/08/2020 15:57

@hastingsmua1

I don’t find the crime itself interesting (let’s be honest it’s just morbid) but I do find the police investigation side of things interesting. Then again I studied a criminology module during my psychology degree so it’s interesting seeing certain techniques in action
Me too, in the case of Graham Dwyer, the process of the investigation was really interesting. Obviously there was the unusual aspect of her fragile sense of herself and how he used that to persuade her to allow him to hurt her. It's not like I was watching re-enactments of exactly what he put her through.
WiserOlder · 31/08/2020 16:00

Also, how clever the 'perps' can think they are and how they reveal themselves. I find that interesting too.

Sorry to go back to this example again but when Graham Dwyer bought dummy phones for himself and the woman he later killed to use, thinking he was so clever not using his real phone, when the mobile phone shop asked for his address, he couldn't think of a fake address quickly enough and he gave an address that was really close to his sister's REAL address (but not exactly). That was just another piece of circumstancial evidence against him. I find it interesting. He no doubt walked out of the phone shop that day thinking he'd paid cash for two phones that could NEVER be linked to him. The prosecution disagreed and found it improbable that the address linked to the phones was so similar to his own sister's address.

OldQueen1969 · 31/08/2020 16:14

My DP finds it odd that I watch alot of true crime on YouTube.

I am fascinated by the psychology behind the acts, although repulsed of course. The mundanity of evil never ceases to amaze me either - the fact that people can be so inhumane to others for reasons that are to most part of the tolerable irritants of normal life.

The way crimes are solved and all the technological advances are also very interesting.

At about 14 I read a book by Professor Keith Simpson detailing his rise through the pathology ranks under Sir Bernard Spilsbury, with a fat section of famous crime scene photos in the middle. For a while I thought I might like to be a pathologist. As I got older, and particularly after motherhood, I doubted whether I could remain objective enough and detached to do a good enough job..

Cases I have found particularly interesting -

The Susan Powell Cox disappearance with all its utterly tragic fallout.

The David Crowley case which has an odd resonance with the Ray Rivera case bar the aspect of family annihilation.

The Christopher Foster case - that was one of the worst for seeing a "normal" aspirational family wiped out due to the man's arrogance and narcissism.

Jeremy Bamber. The apparently botched investigation seems like an utter shambles.

IHeartSusanDey · 31/08/2020 17:12

The only crime I have been obsessed with is the Manson/TLB murders. And even then it isn't the murders themselves...it is all the layers to it. The sixties, the Summer of Love era in California, the hippy counterculture, Rock and Roll with the Beatles and The Beach Boys who were tied up with the family, cult programming, the middle class girls and boys who joined the family and became killers, the desert setting, the lack of any real concrete motive, Helier Skelter, the outrageous antics at court with the bald followers kneeling outside......it is engrossing even fifty years later.

rayoflightboy · 31/08/2020 18:11

I think Graham Dwyer would have had a good chance of getting away with it.Only for the reservoir was lower than usual.

But i agree,he thought he was smarter than he actually was.

northernstar0412 · 03/09/2020 13:14

Colin Howell, a dentist from Coleraine, N Ireland and his accomplice lover Hazel Stewart. Both now serving life terms.

Howell murdered his wife and Stewart's husband in a staged "suicide pact" that fooled the authorities.

The murders came to light 18 years later only because Howell, a Christian, confided in a church elder.

Stewart had assisted him by drugging her husband and covering up the crime. Her second husband, a police chief, insisted that she was controlled and manipulated by Howell, and tied in vain to get her released.

Another killer who almost got away with it is Texan pastor Matt Baker, who killed his wife Kari by drugging and suffocating her. Baker told police she had killed herself while depressed.

The authorities ruled the death a suicide but her mother said Kari would never have left her young children and hired a private investigator. It emerged that Baker was having an affair with a parisioner, who initially denied any knowledge but eventually told authorities she knew Baker was planning to kill his wife. She was granted immunity and he's serving life.

Both these stories break my heart, as do others mentioned here, especially Breck Bednar. Also Kayleigh Haywood, age 15, who was groomed online by Luke Harlow. A neighbour heard Kayleigh's screams just before she was murdered by Harlow's friend Stephen Beadman but did not call police.

wishihadagoodone · 03/09/2020 18:18

@northernstar0412

Colin Howell, a dentist from Coleraine, N Ireland and his accomplice lover Hazel Stewart. Both now serving life terms.

Howell murdered his wife and Stewart's husband in a staged "suicide pact" that fooled the authorities.

The murders came to light 18 years later only because Howell, a Christian, confided in a church elder.

Stewart had assisted him by drugging her husband and covering up the crime. Her second husband, a police chief, insisted that she was controlled and manipulated by Howell, and tied in vain to get her released.

Another killer who almost got away with it is Texan pastor Matt Baker, who killed his wife Kari by drugging and suffocating her. Baker told police she had killed herself while depressed.

The authorities ruled the death a suicide but her mother said Kari would never have left her young children and hired a private investigator. It emerged that Baker was having an affair with a parisioner, who initially denied any knowledge but eventually told authorities she knew Baker was planning to kill his wife. She was granted immunity and he's serving life.

Both these stories break my heart, as do others mentioned here, especially Breck Bednar. Also Kayleigh Haywood, age 15, who was groomed online by Luke Harlow. A neighbour heard Kayleigh's screams just before she was murdered by Harlow's friend Stephen Beadman but did not call police.

There was a fantastic tv drama on a few years ago based on the Howell/Stewart murders starring Jimmy Nesbitt as Colin. Truly awful what they did.

N.Ireland is such a small place is hard to believe something like happened here. It's very much 6 degrees of separation. For example, I worked with a lady who had Colin as her dentist, a friends mum worked with his poor wife and and other friends in-laws were their neighbours!!

FloraButterCookie · 03/09/2020 18:21

If you like true crime I highly recommend a YouTube channel called Stephanie Harlowe, she got me through lockdown. The detail is insane!

Whiskyinajar · 03/09/2020 18:25

@FloraButterCookie

If you like true crime I highly recommend a YouTube channel called Stephanie Harlowe, she got me through lockdown. The detail is insane!
Yes she's amazing to watch.

I listen to a couple of really good podcasts as well.

Seeing Red which does mostly UK based crime...they are really funny but never at the expense of the victims.

The True Crime Enhusiast is also very gooD for UK based stuff. His recent long series of podcasts about Robert Napper were excellent.

rayoflightboy · 03/09/2020 21:42

t.co/bZwB00JMmD?amp=1

Raonaid Murray. Shes 21 years dead tomorrow.Theres an appeal

I hope its solved.

WiserOlder · 03/09/2020 22:42

Yes, that colin howell one was good if you like true crime.

I hope the Raonaid Murray case is solved as well. Let's hope. They caught the golden state killer after 42 years.

nancybotwinbloom · 04/09/2020 08:03

@PhilSwagielka

I just read that court transcript. It's the worst thing I've ever read. It's horrifying.

Also cried. Couldn't read it all. What is wrong with these people they do not deserve to live. Scum.

Covert20 · 04/09/2020 09:27

And yet @BackforGood you clicked on this link and read through those 22 pages yourself...hmm

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