Should teachers be extra vigilant to infection in their every day lives to reduce school transmission?

[WhyNotMe40]

As the latest PHE report states that in June there were more staff than students affected by the covid19 coronavirus, there are suggestions that teachers should take measures to reduce bringing the virus into schools.

Voting: do you think teachers should change how they behave out of schools to protect the school?
YABU yes
YANBU no

Also - what activities or behaviours do you think teachers should avoid or do to further this aim?

@FrenchItalian

This is a difficult one- clearly we don’t want teachers to be scapegoats for spreading virus. However, I do think teachers and school staff taking personal responsibly for their behaviour will be important in keeping schools open.

So teachers should imo be doing things like maintaining social distancing work friends and family, avoiding non-essential public transport use, meeting family and friends outdoors rather than indoors, limiting bar and restaurant visits and avoiding overseas travel.

I’d also close staff rooms and other communal areas to prevent social gatherings between teachers

How much extra do you plan to pay them in order to compensate for this?

Most people, including most teachers already social distance!!

PiataMaiNei

FrenchItalian
This is a difficult one- clearly we don’t want teachers to be scapegoats for spreading virus. However, I do think teachers and school staff taking personal responsibly for their behaviour will be important in keeping schools open.

So teachers should imo be doing things like maintaining social distancing work friends and family, avoiding non-essential public transport use, meeting family and friends outdoors rather than indoors, limiting bar and restaurant visits and avoiding overseas travel.

I’d also close staff rooms and other communal areas to prevent social gatherings between teachers
How much extra do you plan to pay them in order to compensate for this?

Indeed. Particularly since “school staff” got their first mention in connection with this. “School staff” are much more poorly paid than teachers.

Rephrase- should parents be extra vigilant to stop spreading the virus at schools?

its hard to tell who should be doing what given the ever changing guidelines.

Yet another government U Turn after saying they would not review masks - tossers
www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-53907035

Thinking about it, i'll agree to not leave my house apart from going to work and picking up food if my family are eligible for the 60k compensation offered to nhs workers families if they passed away.
Although nobody told NHS workers not to go to Starbucks. In fact, they got discounts.
Still, if that's on the table i'd feel better about having no life, lunchbreak and cleaning year 6's pissy loos in my now 20 min lunch break. I'd also feel comforted that my kids and mum with dementia who lives with us might have a bit of support financially.

@Decoqueen
This is surely a wind up

Nope this is what the government and its advisors are telling teachers and school staff to do

@Saucery

NHS staff had takeaway food donated to them, in fact. Which was brilliant, I’ve no argument with that at all. But school staff can’t even go out and buy food. It must be ‘brought from home’. I don’t know where whoever added that little gem thinks I live or source my food? A smallholding with my own vegetable beds, orchard, pig and cow for the milk?

They also had lots of PPE made by us good for nothing lazy teachers.

The evidence is that children contribute very little in terms of spreading virus in school.

Yeah, if you don’t test the kids you will tend to find in more often in adults.

Sampling bias.

@FrenchItalian

The governments stance on testing in schools is

There is no regular testing
You are only tested if you are symptomatic.

Children (including teenagers) are asymptomatic so therefore will not be tested.

So any study that is done from testing is automatically flawed as they are not testing children (and teenagers) on any basis.

All the evidence

Like this, FrenchItalian?

www.jpeds.com/article/S0022-3476(20)31023-4/fulltext

And children who have symptoms can be and have been tested but we know children are more likely to be asymptomatic so less likely to be tested.

they should be subject to the same standards as the children and young people in their care - and follow SD guidelines etc.
Judging by the hordes of feral teenagers roaming the streets round here, that'll go well.

"The evidence is that children contribute very little in terms of spreading Covid in schools."
Yeah, right. Probably because they've barely been in fucking schools since March!

We know they weren’t testing kids in Sweden. Missed opportunity.

@FrenchItalian, being asymptomatic does not mean you aren't able to spread the virus.

So, if teachers are such a high risk to have on the school premises, maybe they should stay away.
Oh, wait...

School staff too. It is becoming a more attractive job by the day. I can look after and teach my own children at least as effectively as their school can. Can everyone wanting school staff to face more restrictions than the general population say the same?

I meant school staff should stay away too.

@FrenchItalian, I have reported your most recent post, as it spreads dangerous misinformation.

But if teachers need to do this, surely everyone does. I could catch it at home from other members of the household who have to work!
Honestly, I’m done. No one has asked this of any other profession. I really don’t know if I can deal with the fact that a) I’m at risk if I catch it and b) the mental load of now worrying that I’ll pick it up and give it to others at work, some of whom are very vulnerable.
What do I do about my family? Should they be extra careful because I’m a teacher?
Why are we not asking the parents to stay home.
If I didn’t have to work I’d actually resign now I think, despite my love for the job. I just cannot handle the responsibility any more.

Also the evidence that children don’t spread it is balanced with lots of evidence that they do, particularly older ones. So there’s that!