Are our kids being thrown under the bus

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Chris Whitney has said that children are safe to go back to school because they are at low risk of complications from Covid.is this another case of politics being more important than lives?

Fil1234

Schools have had a long time to get ready to take children back both safely and securely....... get on with it!

We are. As well as we can under the governments ever changing and sometimes incomprehensible guidance.

Can we all not act sensibly now and not find fault with everything?

I’d love to act sensibly. Unfortunately the government won’t let me. As for finding fault...the scale of the fuck ups by this government make them somewhat difficult to trust.

I am sure you’re doing a wonderful job ..... however, there is always someone else to blame. I am merely saying find a way to get schools open safely and securely . Always blaming the government is wearing a bit thin! Sorry .... but we have to find a way forward without being so negative..... it’s hard to have an opinion and not to come across as heartless and not understanding the situation schools are in..... but we need to start to be more positive! Hindsight is a wonderful thing.....
For the sake of our teachers/children - in fact us all! .... we are routing for you to succeed....

The children will almost certainly be fine & need to be back at school.
It's the teachers who are at risk. I am a teacher, but I agree that we just have to get on with it and hope that our schools have done their very best to make it as safe as possible.
Scottish schools have only just gone back and one school has had to close due to 17 teachers & 2 students are infected - nightmare.

My otherwise v healthy 14 yr old was one day away from being hospitalised from Covid. I cried, he was so ill. I’m sick of people minimising the risk.

@ReefTeeth Quite honestly, if teachers went on strike over this, it would be hugely detrimental to the profession. I’m the daughter of teachers and I’ve always been hugely supportive. But goodwill towards schools is now in pretty short supply from what I see. Many parents have struggled massively to homeschool kids whilst being furloughed/made redundant/having huge pay cuts. Sympathy will be minimal.

What’s wrong with all of this is the fact that schools were closed and they’ve been at home for 6 months. Many kids will struggle to go back even if it were going back to the usual way of things. It’s going to be very different and quite stressful. The government have stated that they expect the very highest levels of good behaviour and that incidences of disruption will be dealt with “robustly”, and what’s to blame? According to the government any problems with settling or behaviour will be due to the poor parenting during lockdown.
Returning to school is the best thing for our kids long term, they should never have been subjected to this in the first place. They’ve been let down and now face lots of new rules and zero tolerance for the difficulties they experience

I don't think our kids are being under the bus. I think schools and teachers are. . .

Chris Whitty isn’t a politician.

I am merely saying find a way to get schools open safely and securely . Always blaming the government is wearing a bit thin!

You don’t understand how schools work. They are publicly funded and the DfE are “in charge”. We have to work within their guidance.

You seem to think that teachers should be just getting on with things autonomously.

Windyjuly
Thank you for your comments.

I think I have posted already that I am undecided about masks in the classroom for pupils - perhaps because the school day is longer in the private sector - ds2 (recently turned 12), is often at school from 8am - 5.30, although he does get a fairly long lunch break and one after-school activity is a sport. I have no objections to teachers wearing masks, in fact I suggested they wear them in the staffroom and the school office.

Mistlewoeandwhine

Hope your DC is completely better :(

So much denial in this thread. Kids will go back to school this will push the R number up and there will be outbreaks which will lead to the shutting down of schools in a localised way. People who say we should not have shut down schools seem to be forgetting how much worse our death rate was than all the countries who shut down earlier than us.

YABU and I'm sick of these constant school threads.

Have you nothing more interesting to do with your time?

YABU and I'm sick of these constant school threads

Don’t open them then 🤷🏻‍♀️

Have you nothing more interesting to do with your time?

As a retired teacher I am well aware that there will be parents who will send their sick children into school because they don’t want to take time off work without giving a second thought to the impact it will have on others. All children and staff should have their temperature taken on arrival in school and sent home if unwell.

In our district, there are 3 positive cases (not deaths) per 100,000 people a week for the last few weeks, we have been frightened senseless!

Autumn/Winter is around the corner, will you be keeping them off for seasonal flu? A few children die every year from that too just like a few died from C-19 again with underlying conditions...

If your child is on the do not go out list/isolation due to serious underlying conditions then discuss it with your medical team that is treating them...

My otherwise v healthy 14 yr old was one day away from being hospitalised from Covid. I cried, he was so ill. I’m sick of people minimising the risk

That must have been horrible and I hope he's ok now.

Children can get really ill from chickenpox, it can be fatal, yet the risk of catching chicken pox at school is seen as completely normal and acceptable.

Of course they had shut. You can't have a lockdown with parents moving around taking DC to school.

What @ReefTeeth said

@PumpkinPiloter

So much denial in this thread. Kids will go back to school this will push the R number up and there will be outbreaks which will lead to the shutting down of schools in a localised way. People who say we should not have shut down schools seem to be forgetting how much worse our death rate was than all the countries who shut down earlier than us.

Sweden didn't close their schools at all...

To date:

5,813 people have died

of those, 1 (one) child has died aged between 0 to 9yrs...

www.statista.com/statistics/1107913/number-of-coronavirus-deaths-in-sweden-by-age-groups/

Sweden is no example on deaths.

@latticechaos - it is sn example - 8th highest death rate in the world

And with their PM saying they got it wrong

Appreciate this doesn’t for the narrative of the OH LOOK AT SWEDEN brigade

(per million that is!!!)

Sweden is a totally different society - it’s not an especially helpful comparison. It’s also disingenuous to pretend they carried on as usual - post 16 provision was shut and school looked very different - part time for the majority:

www.tes.com/news/have-swedish-schools-really-carried-normal

Sweden’s community transmission and death/per capita have been much higher than its Nordic cousins - one could suggest this is down to their decision to not lock down more comprehensively.

Sweden's death numbers are irrelevant because their population is only 10 million as opposed to our 60 million.

6k out of 10 million isn't that much lower than our 45k out of 60 million.

Not to mention their demographics are completely different, they're much less densely populated, etc.

Now on the news it is even being reported that teachers must take every measure possible not to bring coronavirus into school !!! So, as usual, it will be the teachers' fault for any outbreaks.