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AIBU to want to change DS surname?

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PandaEyed13 · 23/08/2020 04:04

Hellooo! My background in brief is I have a 9 year old from a previous relationship and a 3 year old with my current partner. We've been together 5 years, my older DS has my surname and younger DS has my partners surname.

I always wanted youngest DS to have my surname too, a double barrel, but for some reason I agreed to just give him my partners surname. I guess at the time it seemed fine because OH proposed when I was 6 months pregnant so it did (again at the time) seem a case of 'well I'll have OH name too eventually so why not,' and I went with it. OH did very very much want for DS to have just his surname but I wasn't under duress or threat from OH to do so, or anything like that, I do need to be honest and make that point.

But almost instantly I regretted it. Something just didn't feel right, I put it down to wanting him to share at least part of a name with his older brother and feel connected with each other. It was a niggling regret that grew and grew over time. So I started broaching the idea of adding my surname to his name too, just putting the feelers out. Immediate shut down from other half. No. Wholehearted no. 100% no. Just no. I tried a few times over the last 3 years to bring it up and I get shut down every time.

Now youngest DS is starting school in 2 weeks and it's something I seriously would like to do now. School will allow us to use whatever surname we'd like whether it's their legal name or not, they're quite liberal and free thinking nowadays what with gender neutrality and none binary and identification matters becoming more and more accepted.
Couple this with the fact that me and OH came to the realisation a few months ago that we have no plans to marry any time soon. We've been engaged for 3 years and haven't so much as even glanced at a wedding magazine or a bridal anything in that time, and upon chatting about it we came to the conclusion that we're really happy as we are and that we actually may not marry at all! Who knows, we'll see, maybe/maybe not, etc, etc!

So I don't even want to legally change DSs name now at this point, I just broached the topic of using a double barrel surname for him at school so that he shared a name in part at least with his brother, and also with me as I'm the parent that will be picking him up and dropping him off every single day, me at all the parents evenings, school plays, getting him midday if they call that he's sick, it's all on me baby, school will be my thing and OH will literally never be there due to his new job and the hours he works. 8:15am to 5:30pm.

We had a row and a half tonight. Still no. Absolutely no. I explained my reasons that I just want that familial link to myself and his brother while in that setting, and also a little for reputation reasons too. Times are modern but I'm starting fresh with a new class of parents in 2 weeks time and I'll be the one with 2 kids to different dads and different surnames, who's partner may as well be phantom because he's never going to be there. But he literally doesn't care, it all got very ugly. Apparently I've had my own way giving him his first name and now I'm trying to manipulate my surname into the mix too. He's so offensively against adding my surname that I'm confused and shocked and extremely peed off. He understands fully that I don't want to remove his surname, I just want to add mine, yet he has no explanation as to why he's so dead against it, he had no reasons that he could articulate as to why it was a dead no. I honestly feel offended at this point so I press more as to why my name is apparently dirt and why he's against it and it came out, like a dude in the 50s, it boiled down to 'he's mine. He has my name, you take the father's name and that's how it should be.' It's like a claim he's making on DS. Like a territory. I walked out to bed, he's sleeping on the couch (his choice) and it's unresolved.

I'm laying here feeling unheard, offended, disrespected and a bit like I want to leave him. I just feel personally insulted by the refusal to allow a part of my name too. He's acting like we're not together anymore and I'm trying to change DS name after a separation, there's a hint of venom and resentment from him that I would expect to see if the situation actually was like that. But it's not! We're supposed to be happily together! So why can't younger DS have mine and older DS name as well as his, why is it the worst thing that could happen?!

It shouldn't matter, I know, but it does.

AIBU? We've had silly arguments in the past about 'couple things' and said 'that's it, I'm off' and of course we don't leave, we never mean it, just a daft row about dishes or unpicked up socks. But something in me now feels offended and insulted at the core in a way I haven't felt before in the relationship. As though maybe his reaction alone is a deal breaker. If I can't add my name, well I made my bed in agreeing 3 years ago so I'll deal with it - that's not the deal breaker. It's his refusal, regressive attitude, downright offensive and disrespectful shutdown towards me and the deadset refusal to even consider including my name when he knows how much it means to me. I got barked at that I've been dropping hints for 3 years and hasn't he made it clear enough that he isn't interested, so I need to drop it.

Again, AIBU? Genuinely, I'm not sure if I am here. I know he is, am I as well?

xx

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Sarafive · 23/08/2020 14:47

Jeez, I would just do it. Do you need his signature? I'd tell him it was a deal breaker. Modern times. Recognise you both as parents. Good luck.

PeanutDear · 23/08/2020 14:48

I'm not saying I agree with the way your partner is being with this, I don't at all.

I just don't think your reasoning is any better than his. He doesn't want to change it because of some old school 'he's my son, he has dad's name' way of thinking, but your reason for changing it is just as old school imo. You're bothered about what people at the school gates think about you because you have two children by two different father's.

PiataMaiNei · 23/08/2020 14:49

If you have any more DC with him, which I wouldn't, exercise your right as an unmarried mother to choose the child's name yourself and use your surname.

FortniteBoysMum · 23/08/2020 17:09

Nope your not. This is exactly why I doubled my youngest sons name. 12 years together it still causes issues with him saying he should have his only. Like because even his friends think so. News flash my kid so they can fuck off. Anyway it looks like we split up yesterday because he didn't like my attitude over the weekend. My attitude was due to his actions. But now I'm looking for a house as he wants us out. Trying to work out how to unravel 12 years and how I will afford deposit furniture etc as house is his. The one thing I have that I am glad of is both kids have my name even if one also has his. Shows I was correct listening to my instincts. Good luck and listen to your head.

Sorberret · 23/08/2020 18:50

Your dp sounds extremely immature and unreasonable but unfortunately you went along with him 3 years ago and gave ds his name so it sounds as if dp thought the name issue was done and dusted so to speak and is annoyed at you bringing it up again.
YANBU to want ds to have your surname. I hate that old wife and children taking the man's name no question asked, it's archaic! All my dc have double barrels despite being married, his parents don't like this btw! I wonder if he proposed to you because he thought you'd just automatically go along with ds having his surname? If you ever do break up definitely add your name to ds if only making it easier if your travelling abroad.
Ps don't worry about what the other parents think of dc having different names - I have no idea what all the surnames are of the children in the same class as dc let alone their siblings!

FizzyGreenWater · 23/08/2020 19:22

Honestly? With the picture you paint of your ridiculous 'bantz' so-called partner who is quick enough to switch to be aggressive and manipulative when it's something he wants - I would simply go to court.

As you are not wanting to CHANGE the name but simply add to it, there is a good chance a judge would agree with you - especially when it would create a link name with the child's only sibling.

Then you calmly tell Mr Bantz that his choices are - agree to the name addition, or you'll pay to go to court for it, and as a result, you'll probably split up. The outcome from that will be, ironically, that he'll probably see a lot less of his son who, if he ever does get to the point where he recognises a surname, will possibly identify more with the one he shares with you and his brother, rather than the dad who isn't there much. In the meantime, by the way - there are a few phonecalls to be done here - and here - and some stuff to research and fill in to maybe get some additional support... you can make the calls please, it's easier if the parent who shares a surname does it. And clearly as he's so hung up on the surname his child shouldn't even have (as you are not married) then he also clearly needs to do some more of the daily care - he's clearly feeling insecure over his place in his child's life if he's so aggressive about ANYONE encroaching on his precious surname territory...

Really though, he is touchy about it I suspect not so much because it is your name, than because it's the name that your son has - another man's child. He sees it as ownership - 50-50 names at the moment - 'This one's mine'. Make sure you do tell him that the quickest way for him to lose out there, and REALLY become the one 'ousted', will be if you split... because name or not, he does fuck all for his child day to day.

His attitude sounds horrible, he sounds a nasty twat really.

So offer him those options and then don't piss about - straight to court.

reginaphalangeeee · 23/08/2020 19:45

How would other school parents even know they have different surnames? I knew some of my son's friends surnames but no idea if their siblings had different surnames or not. Never even gave it any thought.

Barrowmanfan22 · 23/08/2020 20:34

@heartsonacake

I think if you agreed to this three years ago, but have been repeatedly subtly mentioning it over that time then of course he’s going to be annoyed, because he’s going to feel like a matter he thought was sorted just isn’t.

Whatever the surname is, you’re still a woman with two children to two different dads; nothing can change that.

What a rude comment!Angry
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