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This government don’t give a shit about schools or your kids

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noblegiraffe · 20/08/2020 19:11

AIBU to think that the government have fucked up literally everything to do with schools and education this year?

Evidence:

Chaotic school closures and keyworker provision (couldn’t decide what a keyworker was until the very last minute)

Forgot that kids on free school meals would go hungry so heads had to go round delivering sandwiches while the DfE put together an utterly shambolic voucher system that crashed and was pretty unusable.

Issued no guidelines for minimum education requirements during lockdown leading to vastly different provision between schools. Even Ofsted said they couldn’t judge schools on lockdown provision as there were no standards to judge them against.

Had to be shamed into u-turning on their insistence that free school meal children should go hungry during the holidays by a celebrity footballer (well done Marcus Rashford you absolute star)

Fed stories to friendly newspapers about schools re-opening in May to judge public reaction, leading to anxiety and uncertainty among parents and school staff

Announced that primary schools would open to all pupils before the summer holidays, an announcement that had surely not been run past anyone who worked in schools given that under the government’s own guidelines for schools for bubbles of 15 and no rotas, this would require double the classrooms and double the teachers available. Then backtracked on this a few weeks later (getting the friendly press to blame the unions) again creating uncertainty, anxiety and disappointment for parents and pupils.

Ignored education select committee questions about Ofqual’s algorithm when they raised issues in July

Lied and said they didn’t have early access to the data from Ofqual’s algorithm

When Scotland u-turned on their use of an algorithm, instead of making a considered response, came out with the bizarre notion that kids could use their mock grades - a suggestion that had obviously never been put past anyone who worked in schools. Again.

Took 5 days to realise that their mock suggestion created more problems than it solved, then u-turned on awarding CAGs creating problems for Y12 next year.

Fed stories to the friendly press that the unions are blocking the re-opening of schools in September so if it goes tits-up, they can blame them again (unions are asking for a ‘plan B’ in the case of local lockdowns, and for working conditions comparable to those of all other workers, no strike action has been proposed or balloted for so they couldn’t block re-opening even if they wanted to)

Blamed Ofqual for the algorithm they were told to create (prioritising statistics over teacher assessment)

Branded a teacher payrise that was agreed back in January a ‘reward for work during lockdown’, knowing this was incorrect, and deliberately fuelling outrage that they themselves had caused by having no minimum requirements for education in lockdown leading to vastly different provision.

Not funding this payrise so teachers probably won’t get it as otherwise it will lead to redundancies for other staff members due to having to fund it from already dire staffing budgets.

Issued guidelines that said that schools should reopen with increased cleaning schedules, increased handwashing, hand sanitising but providing no extra funding for this.

Instructed heads not to take any measures that would improve safety but would require more space (e.g. use of village halls) or not have pupils in full time (rotas, staggered timetables).

Didn’t realise that kids wouldn’t be able to get to school on public transport under current social distancing requirements as there aren’t enough buses until three weeks before schools reopened, and decided to throw £40 million to LAs to sort this (what? buy more buses?) so that they could blame the LAs when it inevitably goes wrong and kids can’t get to school.

And these are the people currently running a campaign to convince parents that they are capable of re-opening schools safely.

YABU: I have full confidence in the government and am perfectly happy with how things have gone so far

YANBU: It is mind-boggling how incompetent they have been, and how little thought they have given to the education of the nation’s children.

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FrippEnos · 23/08/2020 21:10

StaffAssociationRepresentative

TBH, if that is Clavinova's idea of best practice she had better stay where she is as she wouldn't cope in any other school.

SmileEachDay · 23/08/2020 21:12

I don’t think Clav is a teacher Fripp.

Clav? Are you?

Iamnotthe1 · 23/08/2020 21:14

[quote StaffAssociationRepresentative]@Clavinova - its ok we know how to get stuff from DfE etc

Really patronising giving us examples of best practice. We all know what they are but state schools do not have the funding[/quote]
To be honest, I do take umbridge with the assumption that what the private schools are doing must be better by sheer virtue of the fact the privates are doing it.

The actual data does not support the idea that live lessons were the best educational delivery. Actually, that acolade went to recorded videos that the children could watch at their leisure, multiple times and then submit work through an online learning platform and get feedback on it. Live lessons were best for one group: parents. It took the children out of the equation for set times during the day. This is one of the reasons that privates were still able to charge their fees during the second half of the spring term and the first half of the summer term (and second for secondaries).

The assumption that state schools are always worse then private is deeply flawed. Where I teach, the top performing primary is a LA state school and the top performing secondary is an academy trust state secondary. This is in a region with multiple privates to choose from at both levels.

Clavinova · 23/08/2020 21:16

Clav? Are you?

No.

SmileEachDay · 23/08/2020 21:18

Thought not.

Clavinova · 23/08/2020 21:27

The idea that students cannot pass the virus on to staff is a myth as shown by recent infections of staff by students.

I don't think the recent infections have shown us anything definitive - other than the fact that some schools in England/Scotland have had clusters of 6 or 7 members of staff testing positive - which would appear to indicate they passed the infection among themselves.

SmileEachDay · 23/08/2020 21:29

Clav

What is your job?

FrippEnos · 23/08/2020 21:30

SmileEachDay

I apologise to all my fellow teachers.

WhyNotMe40 · 23/08/2020 21:31

There is evidence of student to teacher transmission

This government don’t give a shit about schools or your kids
Iamnotthe1 · 23/08/2020 21:34

Thank you! I was looking for that but couldn't put my finger on it.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 23/08/2020 21:38

@Clavinova

Clav? Are you?

No.

Bloody hell! Hope you are not DfE otherwise we are getting the pitchforks out
noblegiraffe · 23/08/2020 21:39

Hope you are not DfE

She isn’t.

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Clavinova · 23/08/2020 21:39

There is evidence of student to teacher transmission

I haven't seen that - do you have a link?

What is your job?
LLB without being too specific.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 23/08/2020 21:41

So nothing in the cut and thrust of a secondary school?

Ah well thanks for the links to the ever changing DfE guidelines 😂

WhyNotMe40 · 23/08/2020 21:41

@Clavinova

There is evidence of student to teacher transmission

I haven't seen that - do you have a link?

What is your job?
LLB without being too specific.

www.gov.uk/government/news/study-finds-very-low-numbers-of-covid-19-outbreaks-in-schools
SmileEachDay · 23/08/2020 21:44

Law?!

That explains them excellent Google work. The lawyers I know are all lightening fast with that stuff.

Not totes sure it qualifies you to tell state teachers how to do things but whatever floats your boat 🤷🏻‍♀️

Piggywaspushed · 23/08/2020 21:50

It is interesting that people seem to accept that staff pass it amongst each other at school, but children must be passing it amongst each other in the community. That makes no sense whatsoever.

noblegiraffe · 23/08/2020 21:51

Ask what her DH does

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SmileEachDay · 23/08/2020 21:52

I’m guessing he’s a teacher.

Headteacher?

Clav?

Clavinova · 23/08/2020 21:57

SmileEachDay
That explains the excellent Google work.

Is that a compliment? Grin

WhyNotMe40
Thanks for the link - however, I would still point out;

"Outbreaks involving staff-to-staff transmission were most common" - which I think should be a priority consideration.

Northernsoulgirl45 · 23/08/2020 21:59

Shock Horror dd3 teacher was caught sat on her arse in the garden. She was reading a story to her class on video.
I found provision to be good in my dds school. Hell they even set work for the year 11s and provided feedback.

SmileEachDay · 23/08/2020 21:59

Is that a compliment?

It is if you think endless and impressively fast Googling Is a good way to have a discussion.
😊

Now. Husband is a....

Clavinova · 23/08/2020 22:00

Ask what her DH does

Very much involved in education at a senior level.

SmileEachDay · 23/08/2020 22:02

He’s a Head.

Private?

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 23/08/2020 22:02

@SmileEachDay

I’m guessing he’s a teacher.

Headteacher?

Clav?

No way! Not the one who is an HT who parachutes into ‘failing schools’ and sacks all the staff and buggers off himself before the next inspection!