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This government don’t give a shit about schools or your kids

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noblegiraffe · 20/08/2020 19:11

AIBU to think that the government have fucked up literally everything to do with schools and education this year?

Evidence:

Chaotic school closures and keyworker provision (couldn’t decide what a keyworker was until the very last minute)

Forgot that kids on free school meals would go hungry so heads had to go round delivering sandwiches while the DfE put together an utterly shambolic voucher system that crashed and was pretty unusable.

Issued no guidelines for minimum education requirements during lockdown leading to vastly different provision between schools. Even Ofsted said they couldn’t judge schools on lockdown provision as there were no standards to judge them against.

Had to be shamed into u-turning on their insistence that free school meal children should go hungry during the holidays by a celebrity footballer (well done Marcus Rashford you absolute star)

Fed stories to friendly newspapers about schools re-opening in May to judge public reaction, leading to anxiety and uncertainty among parents and school staff

Announced that primary schools would open to all pupils before the summer holidays, an announcement that had surely not been run past anyone who worked in schools given that under the government’s own guidelines for schools for bubbles of 15 and no rotas, this would require double the classrooms and double the teachers available. Then backtracked on this a few weeks later (getting the friendly press to blame the unions) again creating uncertainty, anxiety and disappointment for parents and pupils.

Ignored education select committee questions about Ofqual’s algorithm when they raised issues in July

Lied and said they didn’t have early access to the data from Ofqual’s algorithm

When Scotland u-turned on their use of an algorithm, instead of making a considered response, came out with the bizarre notion that kids could use their mock grades - a suggestion that had obviously never been put past anyone who worked in schools. Again.

Took 5 days to realise that their mock suggestion created more problems than it solved, then u-turned on awarding CAGs creating problems for Y12 next year.

Fed stories to the friendly press that the unions are blocking the re-opening of schools in September so if it goes tits-up, they can blame them again (unions are asking for a ‘plan B’ in the case of local lockdowns, and for working conditions comparable to those of all other workers, no strike action has been proposed or balloted for so they couldn’t block re-opening even if they wanted to)

Blamed Ofqual for the algorithm they were told to create (prioritising statistics over teacher assessment)

Branded a teacher payrise that was agreed back in January a ‘reward for work during lockdown’, knowing this was incorrect, and deliberately fuelling outrage that they themselves had caused by having no minimum requirements for education in lockdown leading to vastly different provision.

Not funding this payrise so teachers probably won’t get it as otherwise it will lead to redundancies for other staff members due to having to fund it from already dire staffing budgets.

Issued guidelines that said that schools should reopen with increased cleaning schedules, increased handwashing, hand sanitising but providing no extra funding for this.

Instructed heads not to take any measures that would improve safety but would require more space (e.g. use of village halls) or not have pupils in full time (rotas, staggered timetables).

Didn’t realise that kids wouldn’t be able to get to school on public transport under current social distancing requirements as there aren’t enough buses until three weeks before schools reopened, and decided to throw £40 million to LAs to sort this (what? buy more buses?) so that they could blame the LAs when it inevitably goes wrong and kids can’t get to school.

And these are the people currently running a campaign to convince parents that they are capable of re-opening schools safely.

YABU: I have full confidence in the government and am perfectly happy with how things have gone so far

YANBU: It is mind-boggling how incompetent they have been, and how little thought they have given to the education of the nation’s children.

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user1471530109 · 20/08/2020 19:38

In the beginning, I think they had the public onside in sympathy for dealing with such a huge event (pandemic). But the tides have definitely shifted. I haven't heard anyone for weeks stick up for the government and I live in a Tory area i bloody hate that side of this lovely area

This whole fiasco over the exams is unbelievable. One thing after another. Those poor kids. And then they are going to have to deal with the wonderful media downplaying their achievements as they 'didnt sit the exams and results are inflated'. Give them a break!

This whole 'kids don't need masks in school-only everywhere else inside'...Angry.

Appuskidu · 20/08/2020 19:40

[quote Cantaloupeisland]@noblegiraffe don't forget the promised 'massive summer of catch up' that didn't happen. Absolute shitshow[/quote]
And where are we with the millions given to state-sanctioned tutoring agencies which schools can access at a reduced amount of money,...despite not having any spare money with which to do this.

I wonder if Dido Harding is being put in charge of the tutoring agency chain?

hungrywalrus · 20/08/2020 19:41

It’s time that some grown ups were put in charge. Covid will be around for a while and Brexit will be coming very soon. This isn’t good enough. Sure the situation was unprecedented, but you can’t look at this track record and say that they their best. They did really badly and Britain deserves so much better.

Ickabog · 20/08/2020 19:42

Appuskidu

I wonder if Dido Harding is being put in charge of the tutoring agency chain?

Don't give them ideas. Shock

noblegiraffe · 20/08/2020 19:42

THE GREAT SUMMER CATCH-UP

Now called the POSSIBLY NOVEMBER CATCH-UP

Soon to be HOPE YOU FORGET WE PROMISED A CATCH-UP

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flumposie · 20/08/2020 19:44

Spot on. Education and schools don't generate money so the Tories dont give a shit about them.

SomewhereEast · 20/08/2020 19:44

I dislike the Tories intensely and have voted Labour (or Lib Dem - lived in a Tory / Lib marginal for years) every election, BUT...

...the Government forcefully committing to schools reopening fully in September and getting them partially reopened in June is 100% in the interests of my children (youngest got to go back from the start of June & it was soooo good for him and for all of us), so for that alone I'm withholding a YANBU.

Although in fairness it was good to see Keir Starmer come out strongly in favour of a full September reopening too. With the SNP also on board in Scotland that one's increasingly a cross party concensus thing.

Danglingmod · 20/08/2020 19:44

Everything you said.

Plus: no promised laptops
BTec catastrophe
No summer catch-up plan

I can't think of anything they've handled as badly as education. Ok, testing. Track and trace. Care homes. Obviously.

Cawillmay · 20/08/2020 19:46

Yes, thank you @noblegiraffe for laying out this catalogue of failures so clearly. It makes for shocking reading..I think there’s a level of passiveness now at government incompetence due to how long it’s going on and how each decision seems to be worse than the last...but also, in lockdown, the parents of school-age children are doing their best to keep their children mentally and physically healthy, and themselves too, rather than tackling the government on their shambolic performance. That passiveness in itself is dangerous..as someone pointed out, if this had happened in certain other countries, people would be up in arms, out protesting, demanding change. It’s very scary how well they’re doing currently at controlling the narrative around the unions...that they’re deliberately thwarting their efforts to get kids back to school etc. It actually disgusts me.
A plea to those of you who think @noblegiraffe is BU...give your reasons and let’s have a proper debate. What are we missing?!

Appuskidu · 20/08/2020 19:50

@SomewhereEast

I dislike the Tories intensely and have voted Labour (or Lib Dem - lived in a Tory / Lib marginal for years) every election, BUT...

...the Government forcefully committing to schools reopening fully in September and getting them partially reopened in June is 100% in the interests of my children (youngest got to go back from the start of June & it was soooo good for him and for all of us), so for that alone I'm withholding a YANBU.

Although in fairness it was good to see Keir Starmer come out strongly in favour of a full September reopening too. With the SNP also on board in Scotland that one's increasingly a cross party concensus thing.

Opening the schools is not a problem-it’s HOW it was done/is being done.

Talking to heads, teachers and unions about plans whilst they are being made would go a long way to getting schools open in a sensible way. Lying and telling the press that you’re working closely with heads, teachers and unions when you’re not is, unsurprisingly, much less successful.

adawong · 20/08/2020 19:51

It’s time that some grown ups were put in charge
I keep seeing this on MN who exactly do you have in mind?

Iamnotthe1 · 20/08/2020 19:52

@hungrywalrus

It’s time that some grown ups were put in charge. Covid will be around for a while and Brexit will be coming very soon. This isn’t good enough. Sure the situation was unprecedented, but you can’t look at this track record and say that they their best. They did really badly and Britain deserves so much better.
Something that really gets to me is the fact that they openly say that they have done well. They present themselves as genuinely believing that the way they have approached this entire pandemic has been the best possible way.
spandexonmars · 20/08/2020 19:52

I don't think this really has anything to do with the Government. Surely it's the parents responsibility to feed their own kids during school holidays and that is what tax credits/child benefit is meant to pay for (amongst other things).

spandexonmars · 20/08/2020 19:53

Agree on the provision of education though. Totally rubbish.

noblegiraffe · 20/08/2020 19:54

the Government forcefully committing to schools reopening fully in September and getting them partially reopened in June is 100% in the interests of my children (youngest got to go back from the start of June & it was soooo good for him and for all of us)

Do you not think that was a fuck-up too? My Y6 got nearly full-time school from June and my Y2 got nothing and was absolutely devastated. They could have allowed rotas and had every child back in part time which would have been great for both of them, but they decided not to because they prioritised parents of certain year groups going back to work over the education and well-being of all primary kids.

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latticechaos · 20/08/2020 19:54

@spandexonmars

I don't think this really has anything to do with the Government. Surely it's the parents responsibility to feed their own kids during school holidays and that is what tax credits/child benefit is meant to pay for (amongst other things).
Really ignorant post, this sort of post frustrates me as just lala land.
Ladywinesalot · 20/08/2020 19:54

Err, like yeah....

MrsCrosbyNRTB · 20/08/2020 19:55

Absolutely 100% agree with you.

Iamnotthe1 · 20/08/2020 19:56

@Cawillmay

Agree completely about the passiveness. If it carries on like this, we'll become used to their failures and mistakes in the same way that Americans have become used to Trump's incompetence and scandals.

motherrunner · 20/08/2020 19:58

@noblegiraffe You once again articulate so well how (the majority of us) teachers feel.

It’s both saddens and enrages me to see it listed like that. After 20 years of teaching the ‘chip, chip’ approach of taking more away from pupils and adding extra burdens onto staff is taking its toll on me. I love teaching, all I wanted to do, and the happy tears I saw today is what makes it all worthwhile but then I think about how little this Gov gives a shit about us, how they’re prepared to fuck over generations of pupils, make staff and pupils ill and all while creating a narrative that teachers are the poison of society and I think what is the point?

DearTeddyRobinson · 20/08/2020 20:00

Nope YANBU. it's a fucking disgrace. DH and I are madly doing sums to see if we can afford private. Those schools actually seem to have some control over what happens and also have the added commercial pressure. Our RC school did fuck all over lockdown.

NailsNeedDoing · 20/08/2020 20:00

Took 5 days to realise that their mock suggestion created more problems than it solved, then u-turned on awarding CAGs creating problems for Y12 next year.

Can we add to this all the students that have missed out on their rightful university places by using the algorithm in the first place, meaning that they’ve literally screwed up the future chances of all those kids.

Sorry if that’s already been added and I missed it.

Can I ask though why the u turn has messed things up for next years Y13? I’m not disputing it, and can see how they’ve been messed up by losing so much time in a critical year In Y12, but I don’t understand why using CAGs makes a difference to them.

Gancanny · 20/08/2020 20:01

Do you not think that was a fuck-up too? My Y6 got nearly full-time school from June and my Y2 got nothing and was absolutely devastated

My year six and year one child were both eligible to go back but neither of them could because they require SEN provision - one has an EHCP, one is in the process of applying for an EHCP - and the government had suspended the LA obligation to provide relevant support. Apparently inclusion only applies when its convenient. As neither of them could manage in school without support and both of their schools have a policy of exclusion for any child who cannot follow COVID rules - which they cannot follow without support - neither could attend.

Can we add the utter abandonment of children with disabilities and/or SEN to the Shitshow List™️ please?

SchadenfreudePersonified · 20/08/2020 20:03

YANBU - but it is not JUST incompetence - it is corruption, too.

Gancanny · 20/08/2020 20:04

I don't think this really has anything to do with the Government. Surely it's the parents responsibility to feed their own kids during school holidays and that is what tax credits/child benefit is meant to pay for (amongst other things).

There are already many children who go hungry through the holidays. Due to so many people being on reduced incomes that number would have risen this summer. It really is on the government, this summer and every summer.