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This government don’t give a shit about schools or your kids

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noblegiraffe · 20/08/2020 19:11

AIBU to think that the government have fucked up literally everything to do with schools and education this year?

Evidence:

Chaotic school closures and keyworker provision (couldn’t decide what a keyworker was until the very last minute)

Forgot that kids on free school meals would go hungry so heads had to go round delivering sandwiches while the DfE put together an utterly shambolic voucher system that crashed and was pretty unusable.

Issued no guidelines for minimum education requirements during lockdown leading to vastly different provision between schools. Even Ofsted said they couldn’t judge schools on lockdown provision as there were no standards to judge them against.

Had to be shamed into u-turning on their insistence that free school meal children should go hungry during the holidays by a celebrity footballer (well done Marcus Rashford you absolute star)

Fed stories to friendly newspapers about schools re-opening in May to judge public reaction, leading to anxiety and uncertainty among parents and school staff

Announced that primary schools would open to all pupils before the summer holidays, an announcement that had surely not been run past anyone who worked in schools given that under the government’s own guidelines for schools for bubbles of 15 and no rotas, this would require double the classrooms and double the teachers available. Then backtracked on this a few weeks later (getting the friendly press to blame the unions) again creating uncertainty, anxiety and disappointment for parents and pupils.

Ignored education select committee questions about Ofqual’s algorithm when they raised issues in July

Lied and said they didn’t have early access to the data from Ofqual’s algorithm

When Scotland u-turned on their use of an algorithm, instead of making a considered response, came out with the bizarre notion that kids could use their mock grades - a suggestion that had obviously never been put past anyone who worked in schools. Again.

Took 5 days to realise that their mock suggestion created more problems than it solved, then u-turned on awarding CAGs creating problems for Y12 next year.

Fed stories to the friendly press that the unions are blocking the re-opening of schools in September so if it goes tits-up, they can blame them again (unions are asking for a ‘plan B’ in the case of local lockdowns, and for working conditions comparable to those of all other workers, no strike action has been proposed or balloted for so they couldn’t block re-opening even if they wanted to)

Blamed Ofqual for the algorithm they were told to create (prioritising statistics over teacher assessment)

Branded a teacher payrise that was agreed back in January a ‘reward for work during lockdown’, knowing this was incorrect, and deliberately fuelling outrage that they themselves had caused by having no minimum requirements for education in lockdown leading to vastly different provision.

Not funding this payrise so teachers probably won’t get it as otherwise it will lead to redundancies for other staff members due to having to fund it from already dire staffing budgets.

Issued guidelines that said that schools should reopen with increased cleaning schedules, increased handwashing, hand sanitising but providing no extra funding for this.

Instructed heads not to take any measures that would improve safety but would require more space (e.g. use of village halls) or not have pupils in full time (rotas, staggered timetables).

Didn’t realise that kids wouldn’t be able to get to school on public transport under current social distancing requirements as there aren’t enough buses until three weeks before schools reopened, and decided to throw £40 million to LAs to sort this (what? buy more buses?) so that they could blame the LAs when it inevitably goes wrong and kids can’t get to school.

And these are the people currently running a campaign to convince parents that they are capable of re-opening schools safely.

YABU: I have full confidence in the government and am perfectly happy with how things have gone so far

YANBU: It is mind-boggling how incompetent they have been, and how little thought they have given to the education of the nation’s children.

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PumpkinPie2016 · 20/08/2020 20:41

YANBU, it's absolutely appalling. There are literally no words at times.

I know @noblegiraffe you are a teacher too, as am I, and several others on here and I'm sure that like me, you have found trying to work through it all to be horrendous. I feel like the last few months have been spent largely trying to cope with the government's random announcements/u-turns rather than being able to focus purely on educating the childrenSad

I feel like next term is going to be so hard with trying to follow the 'guidance' schools have been given while focussing on education and settling both staff and pupils back into schools.

yawnsvillex · 20/08/2020 20:42

And people still ask why I send DC to private school.

Appuskidu · 20/08/2020 20:44

I feel like next term is going to be so hard with trying to follow the 'guidance' schools have been given while focussing on education and settling both staff and pupils back into schools

Whilst being simultaneously blamed for anything that goes wrong in schools, in the media and on social media, despite having no control over any aspect of it anyway!

downwardspiral1 · 20/08/2020 20:47

They are truly awful but that’s to be expected. The default is that they are a populist right wing campaigning propagandist government, and as such they are not interested in governing. It goes against the nature of the beast. What’s even more worrying is that a few more slogans and they would probably be voted in again.

latticechaos · 20/08/2020 20:48

@yawnsvillex

And people still ask why I send DC to private school.
Yes, I hear you.

I couldn't, I just couldn't (I went to one) but I sometimes wish I did.

Clavinova · 20/08/2020 20:49

Issued guidelines that said that schools should reopen with increased cleaning schedules, increased handwashing, hand sanitising but providing no extra funding for this.

School districts in the US appear to have saved money during lockdown - but not schools in the UK?

"The Princeton Public Schools [community school district] saved about $1 million for the 2019-20 school year due to COVID-19.Remote instruction meant the district did not need to spend as much on transportation, substitute teachers, supplies, and other items."

planetprinceton.com/2020/06/23/princeton-public-schools-saved-about-1-million-due-to-covid-19-but-some-board-members-say-they-found-out-too-late/

"Jersey City schools to use cash saved during COVID-19 shutdown to reduce next year’s tax increase."

"realistically there is going to be money saved while schools are closed."
“You have to think about the supplies, the field trips…over time these are payments that we don’t have...substitute teachers….all those costs will not be occurring,”

www.nj.com/hudson/2020/03/jersey-city-schools-to-use-cash-saved-during-covid-19-shutdown-to-reduce-next-years-tax-increase.html

blackwych · 20/08/2020 20:49

Totally agree with you OP. I would like your list of evidence to be on the front page of every newspaper.

downwardspiral1 · 20/08/2020 20:50

(The school I work at is setting up rotas in all but name. We have a government of incompetent fools, but luckily many competent responsible people in the real world.)

yawnsvillex · 20/08/2020 20:51

@latticechaos I understand and respect that. I have friends who say the same.

Thanks to @noblegiraffe great post I now have the exact answer and reasons why I do.

Wannakisstheteacher · 20/08/2020 20:52

It's the year 12's and 10's I feel sorry for. Now it seems every child taking exams this year have actually been allowed to have the horrifically over inflated teachers grades - which were so unrealistic they had to create the algorithm in the first place - what will happen in the next few years when they compete against kids with lower grades, which they actually earned!?

Oldbagface · 20/08/2020 20:52

Couldn't agree more.

monkeytennis97 · 20/08/2020 20:54

@blackwych

Totally agree with you OP. I would like your list of evidence to be on the front page of every newspaper.
Hear hear
Iamnotthe1 · 20/08/2020 20:55

@Clavinova

Unfortunately, as school buildings have still been open, they've not saved that much on overhead costs. They've also lost out on several income streams such as hire of the building/grounds by other groups and before and after school care. These streams are usually what keep the schools afloat. Resource spending has also increased as each child needs their own of everything rather than sharing.

It's also worth noting that schools in the UK are limited in what they can 'carry over'. Anything over a certain amount is clawed back from the school at the end of the financial year. That's true even if that money is funds that the school has raised themselves through income streams.

mummag · 20/08/2020 20:56

I don't think spouting nonsense about over inflated teacher grades does anyone any good, as it is not true. I do however feel that next year's gcse and a level candidates will have a roller coaster ride in terms of education. It's all very sad.

noblegiraffe · 20/08/2020 20:58

School districts in the US appear to have saved money during lockdown - but not schools in the UK?

Hi Clavin Williamson $1 million for an entire school district would be how much per school?

Schools here, unlike the US, remained open, but I think the money they saved on loo roll will probably be needed for the GREAT SUMMER WINTER TBC CATCH-UP won’t it, seeing as the press releases neglected to mention that schools would have to pay 25% of the costs themselves, right?

Good to know that’s the only bit of my OP you could pick at though!

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spanieleyes · 20/08/2020 20:59

@Clavinova
We don't pay transport costs, that is down to the LA
We don't pay supply staff unless it's covered by insurance, we have no supply budget as it is.
The money we have saved on consumables has been spent on additional photocopying to send home to home learners.
We have still had to pay for local authority services, specialist teachers, speech and language etc even though we have been unable to use them so I now have a backlog that I am going to have to cover next year.

Amiable · 20/08/2020 21:02

This government has shown they don’t give a flying fuck for anyone other than themselves and their high-earning/money-laden buddies.

cookiemon666 · 20/08/2020 21:04

My daughter with additional needs is due to take her GCSE'S next year. She has been badly let down, not by her school who have been amazing. The bloody government all need sacking

Pumpkinnose · 20/08/2020 21:05

This post is one of the best I’ve ever read on here.

Can someone please tell me why they’ve got a stonking decent lead still in the polls. The way they’ve got the majority of the Press in their pocket should be illegal..

Clavinova · 20/08/2020 21:05

Iamnotthe1
Slightly out of date figures (2015-2016) - no savings here?

"Spending on supply teachers rises to £1.3 billion."
"Local authority maintained schools spend greater share of budget on supply teachers than academies, according to figures published today" [2017]

Cookiecrisps · 20/08/2020 21:07

@Clavinova the school I work at school was open every week day including all the Easter and May bank holidays for KW children and then for the returning year groups from June 1st so needed heating, lighting and food provided etc. No TAs or teachers could be furloughed and we can’t afford supply teachers in normal times so no cost saving there. Costs incurred were actually increased due to masses of photocopying and stamps to send remote learning packs home, gallons of hand sanitiser needed, digital thermometers needed purchasing and additional hours for cleaners needed paying all coming from our existing budget.

Your links are to school in the USA so not relevant to my school.

Areyouactuallyseriousrightnow · 20/08/2020 21:07

Sorry have RTFT but am sure someone had mentioned- the mysterious case of the disappearing laptops, summer schooling provision, tutors etc etc

Khadernawazkhan · 20/08/2020 21:08

What utter drivel. Look at the unions who have shown just how much they despise children and use any crisis to hold the country to ransom. They are wicked.

malificent7 · 20/08/2020 21:08

Yanbu and yet people will still vote for them "coz communism dosn't work." ( head/ hands).Confused

Danglingmod · 20/08/2020 21:08

Yes, just being open to KW children meant exact same spend on electricity, cleaning, etc (and primaries were fully open from 1st June - not to all students, but every single classroom in use). MORE money was spent on photocopying and postage, sending work packs home to students with no tech, there was no saving from supply (most schools can't afford supply anyway), lost revenue from lettings and canteen (food thrown away), and schools don't personally pay for transport (LEA does) or trips (parents do).

So, no, there were no savings from March-July.