14 day isolation

Alex50 · 2020-08-17T08:16:23+00:00

AIBU to think 14 day isolation isn’t going to work if you don’t get paid? If you are contacted through track and trace or your child has been sent home because someone in there bubble has tested positive. How are people going to manage if they can’t work?

morning17 · 17/08/2020 09:19

You are assuming that track and trace actually contact you, but if so, YANBU.

minnieok · 17/08/2020 09:31

I agree, I'm very wary about completing it consequently. We have already had Covid so are likely immune plus are being fairly careful in restaurants etc. At the services they had a scanner this for track and trace and we did ignore it, we couldn't risk being told to isolate when the chance of being in contact was close to non existent just because someone came through that day who may have not even been there at the same time/area.

dwiz8 · 17/08/2020 09:43

@minnieok

I agree, I'm very wary about completing it consequently. We have already had Covid so are likely immune plus are being fairly careful in restaurants etc. At the services they had a scanner this for track and trace and we did ignore it, we couldn't risk being told to isolate when the chance of being in contact was close to non existent just because someone came through that day who may have not even been there at the same time/area.

SoupDragon · 17/08/2020 09:51

Track and Trace won't work when you have idiots who ignore it, no.

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Alex50 · 17/08/2020 10:06

It’s just not going to work, that and furlough ending, how are people supposed to pay there bills?

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ineedaholidaynow · 17/08/2020 10:22

Hopefully parents won’t be so slack as you @minnieok if their child is meant to be self isolating but send them into school anyway, but I assume they will.

There was a thread about this yesterday about parents needing a plan B if the bubbles burst and children are sent home for 2 weeks. It got quite nasty but it is the reality that many people face. I assume all the people in the workplaces that have been identified as having high levels eg M&S factory will have had to send workers home even those who have tested negative so they have the 2 week incubation period at home, and they won’t get paid as they are not actually ill.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 17/08/2020 10:25

There needs to be far harsher penalties for people who ignore and don’t isolate when contacted or follow quarantine after trips etc. Sad though that people just don’t do it to ensure the safety of others.

This pandemic has been with us for a while so every adult knows they may fall ill or need to self isolate and should have been ensuring they have the means to do that along with supplies in.

Maybe instead of encouraging people to spend or travel, the message should be on personally responsibility and savings. So many don’t have savings yet waste so much on alcohol, trips etc.

TSSDNCOP · 17/08/2020 10:27

I'm on holiday and have been to 3 pubs to eat this weekend. Not one asked us to sign in so T&T would have no chance.

AuditAngel · 17/08/2020 10:28

Track and trace are trying, but people don’t answer their calls, (BIL is working for them), I often don’t answer if I don’t recognise the number.

I am aware of a person who returned from Spain on aTuesday and posted pictures on a Saturday of them out with friends. During the quarantine period. Idiots like her will be spreading the virus.

TSSDNCOP · 17/08/2020 10:29

These 3 places also all told me they're booked solid for the Rishi dinners so they're happy to take business from the pandemic.

ineedaholidaynow · 17/08/2020 10:31

@TSSDNCOP I am amazed that is still happening, with the news that many outbreaks seem to be happening in pubs (or maybe that is why they aren’t asking!) but I would have thought the Government would have made it mandatory and with proof of address so no made up contacts.

Iwantacookie · 17/08/2020 10:38

Agreed with not being asked for track and trace details when I've walked into 2 separate restaurants.
I'm prepared to give my details but if noones taking them it's not much use.

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Alex50 · 17/08/2020 10:49

It’s all very well people saying you should follow the rules but if you can’t pay your rent if you’ not working, what are you supposed to do? Furlough ends in October, then with evictions starting again end of August, I don’t know what people are expected to do? Only the well off can sit at home and worry only about Covid.

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LibrariesGiveUsPower · 17/08/2020 10:56

Even worse for self employed. I’m planning on not going anywhere or seeing anyone basically once my business can reopen. I can’t risk loosing more income. As a newer business I’ve had no support this far anyway so gov aren’t going to pay me sick pay if I have to self isolate for two weeks.

Obviously I’m responsible, but I can wager There will be other self employed or small businesses desperate enough who will ignore self isolation instructions and just crack on with it.

dwiz8 · 17/08/2020 11:00

@Alex50

It’s all very well people saying you should follow the rules but if you can’t pay your rent if you’ not working, what are you supposed to do? Furlough ends in October, then with evictions starting again end of August, I don’t know what people are expected to do? Only the well off can sit at home and worry only about Covid.

Covid isn't a new thing anymore

It's called planning, if you are so reliant on an income and can't work from home don't put yourself at risk of being contacted and asked to quarantine. My neighbour is currently having to do that. Not nice but people need to take some personal responsibility

TSSDNCOP · 17/08/2020 11:04

@ineedaholidaynow me too. But tis truth.

SoloMummy · 17/08/2020 11:18

@minnieok

I agree, I'm very wary about completing it consequently. We have already had Covid so are likely immune plus are being fairly careful in restaurants etc. At the services they had a scanner this for track and trace and we did ignore it, we couldn't risk being told to isolate when the chance of being in contact was close to non existent just because someone came through that day who may have not even been there at the same time/area.

Then you shouldn't be eating out.

LonelyFromCorona · 17/08/2020 11:19

How do they even enforce this. If you come home from France, how do they actually make you isolate? Surely can just go to work as normal, and unless colleagues know you have been to France, who's to know?

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Alex50 · 17/08/2020 11:23

@dwiz8 how can you do that when you have school age children? What a patronising post. Not everyone can work from home and not everyone can plan for a pandemic. I can see you telling all the newly made homeless it’s your own fault for not planning probably 😡

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Alex50 · 17/08/2020 11:29

I meant properly

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dwiz8 · 17/08/2020 11:30

[quote Alex50]@dwiz8 how can you do that when you have school age children? What a patronising post. Not everyone can work from home and not everyone can plan for a pandemic. I can see you telling all the newly made homeless it’s your own fault for not planning probably 😡[/quote]
My neighbour has school aged children and is doing just so. She can't risk not being able to work.

Covid has been around for months now. People need to adapt if they need to

OverTheRainbow88 · 17/08/2020 11:34

@minnieok

So you’ve had it... you can get it again so it’s totally Irrelevant to the rest of the population that you’re immune... so people like you are potential serial spreaders.

People with your attitude is why we are fucked

glitterelf · 17/08/2020 11:37

My husband and I are both self employed so we will get nothing should we need to self isolate, however we've known from the start of this pandemic what we could be facing should we have to isolate. We've saved money as we haven't been going out, had our holiday refunded and saved that too so we have covered ourselves.
The reality is that for me I will have to isolate at some point due to the nature of my work and it will impact us but not as harshly as if we hadn't saved.

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Alex50 · 17/08/2020 11:37

But when they go back to school my daughter will be in a bubble of 280, i’m at work, my husband is out at work meeting people, following the rules, we could be contacted not because we’re going socialising because we have to work and my daughter has to go to school, like many families. Not everyone has savings because they can’t afford to save as they can just about pay there bills, you sit in your Ivory tower, you have no idea how difficult people are going to find this. Eviction or go to work what would you choose?

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glitterelf · 17/08/2020 11:46

I won't be able to work as I would be putting too many other people at risk!! I'm a childminder so chances are that it will be one of the families that use my services that are not being careful or following the rules that aides the spread.

When my child returns to school that will also increase our risks. It's not simply a choice of work or eviction and there are people asking the gov to increase the no eviction like Scotland and Wales.

With all the talk of a second wave when the first began did you not think or try to plan ahead ?