14 day isolation

[Alex50]

AIBU to think 14 day isolation isn’t going to work if you don’t get paid? If you are contacted through track and trace or your child has been sent home because someone in there bubble has tested positive. How are people going to manage if they can’t work?

There’s definitely a two tiers society, one that can sit at home and worry about Covid, the other is to worry about Covid plus feeding your family and keeping a roof over your families head. To worry if you catch it you will be blamed for not behaving appropriately, going out and having dinner, when all you’re trying to do is work and feed your family.

@minnieok -it will never work if everyone has your attitude,no. And everyone says they are very careful.

@cologne4711 thank god for you! You are quite right, I must have been completely mistaken when I sat in 3 pubs this weekend, walked in several shops (and out in a hurry) where people didn't have masks on and had to keep moving out of the way of people invading my space indoors.

It's great that where you are everything is just as it should be. Is is possible, just possible, do you think that I wasn't in the same place as you? That my experience is therefore invalidated?

You won’t get people to comply by bullying them, they need an incentive, one being able to pay the bills, especially when new hospital admissions were below 40 for the whole England, 0 in London.

The majority won't isolate. Faced with a choice of either isolating or paying your bills/rent, what would you choose?

If you can afford to go out to restaurants, holidays etc and are worried about being contacted by T&T and not being able to afford to self isolate....then perhaps you should just forgo those treats and save so you have money to cover the event of self isolation !
People saying they can't afford to self isolate but seem to be able to chuck pounds over the top of a bar every weekend

People saying they can't afford to self isolate but seem to be able to chuck pounds over the top of a bar every weekend

The people I know who cannot afford it certainly don't holiday, go to the pub or cinema. They are largely lone parents stuck in NMW jobs and don't have luxuries in their life's - it's pretty much covering the bare basics only.

@Alex50

You won’t get people to comply by bullying them, they need an incentive, one being able to pay the bills, especially when new hospital admissions were below 40 for the whole England, 0 in London.

Ah, but Alex, 'second wave' (the one we've been expecting since May) is coming (never mind that there's a country above England called Scotland, whose schools started a week ago) once English schools go back and we're all going to die this Winter, it's going to be 'heartbreaking' and all manner of ill. We must all plan, no matter if there's no way to do so because you're stuck in some zero hours job on min wage living in overcrowded flatshare. Too bad. You shouldn't have gone to a bar.

@InDeoEstMeaFiducia you're my kind of person.

I don't think all these "second wavers" will be happy until we are all dead.

I'm still waiting for the VE Day, Easter, and packed beaches wave .... 🙄🙄🙄

Yesterday I went to my child's sports club. I was outdoors the whole time. At the end I bought one drink as my child was thirsty. I wasn't allowed inside. The drink was served on a table at the front I could collect it on. But before I was served I had to complete the contact information. Tbh hundreds of people could have bought drinks that day but with none of them inside I don't see how my chances of catching it off them were high. Your average indoor shop would be much more risky. I found it quite intrusive and big brotherish tbh.

@GrapefruitsAreNotTheOnlyFruit

Yesterday I went to my child's sports club. I was outdoors the whole time. At the end I bought one drink as my child was thirsty. I wasn't allowed inside. The drink was served on a table at the front I could collect it on. But before I was served I had to complete the contact information. Tbh hundreds of people could have bought drinks that day but with none of them inside I don't see how my chances of catching it off them were high. Your average indoor shop would be much more risky. I found it quite intrusive and big brotherish tbh.

That's ridiculous.

Where I work coming in to work if you have COVID symptoms or have been told to self isolate is a disciplinary offence. Apart from which, spreading coronavirus at work and thereby risking forcing the business into shutdown is pretty short sighted if you are worried about being paid.

A lot of people on low paid minimum wage jobs have been surviving the same for years. Not entitled to sick pay etc having to take leave or unpaid if they are genuinely sick and they don't do half the moaning of the people who have been in a restaurant 5 nights a week spending money then get contacted by test and trace and supposidely can no longer afford to live.
No one has cared about how unfair it has been to these people for years prior to covid but now it affects the pockets of the well off it has become a huge injustice now

@Porcupineinwaiting

Where I work coming in to work if you have COVID symptoms or have been told to self isolate is a disciplinary offence. Apart from which, spreading coronavirus at work and thereby risking forcing the business into shutdown is pretty short sighted if you are worried about being paid.

All employers should do this. I also think T&T should inform the workplace of people and schools as well to ensure people don’t ignore the self isolation as it suits them too.

@gallbladderpain

If you can afford to go out to restaurants, holidays etc and are worried about being contacted by T&T and not being able to afford to self isolate....then perhaps you should just forgo those treats and save so you have money to cover the event of self isolation ! People saying they can't afford to self isolate but seem to be able to chuck pounds over the top of a bar every weekend

Totally missing the point, aren't you?

You could get contacted by Track and Trace because someone at work has symptoms. Or someone in your child's school. Or at the local GP surgery, or dentist. You don't have to have been to somewhere like a restaurant or bar to end up being contacted or needing to self isolate.

If the government want people to comply, they need to make sure people can still afford to pay their bills and feed their families, regardless of where they were when they were contacted.

The government also need people to go to the pub, to restaurants, to shops, the hairdressers and on holiday because they need people to spend money. We're already in recession. The less people spend, the worse things will be long-term.

Alex50 I think you make a valid point. Both on the two tier society and the need for support (or an incentive). Even in normal times there are people who assume things are someone else's responsibility to do, be it government or others.

It will be even harder for people to self-isolate if it is too cold to be in the garden for part of the day (if they have one), or when the clocks go back and it is dark before teatime.