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To be shocked at how dystopian going shopping feels now?

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GratefulLove · 11/08/2020 00:22

Today I went shopping in my town centre for the first time since early March. I just could not process how different it all is now. Last time I was in town I remember picking up a box of paracetamol and some hand sanitiser in Boots "just in case" but aside from that it all felt normal albeit a little like the calm before the storm.

Today though. Hand sanitiser everywhere, one-way systems, floor markings. Obviously I knew all this existed from social media and the news but seeing my town, my familiar town so completely different has floored me in a way I didn't expect. Shops selling hand sanitiser and masks - I expected this in Boots and other pharmacies but I didn't expect Primark to have rows and rows of hand sanitiser by the tills. I didn't expect shopping to feel so clinical, it felt like a hospital visit.

I was in one shop and there were a group of young children playing and joking around with each other. They did not have masks on and seeing them playing around just looked so normal and then I looked around and saw all the adults with masks just looking expressionless and almost soulless. It just looked so frightening.

We are months into this pandemic and I still can't believe this is all real. It still feels like a film. I don't know, with the daily conferences now a thing of the past and headlines now involving more topics than just the coronavirus it kind of felt like things were slowly getting back to normal but this really cemented that they are nowhere near normal.

Also I just want to say how much I appreciate all retail workers.

OP posts:
Sorryusernamealreadyexists · 11/08/2020 15:06

I prefer it.

randomer · 11/08/2020 15:06

we don’t know we’re born compared with other generations

A pointless and inaccurate comment. Tell that to parents having breakdowns, A level students, Mums in tower blocks with small children and so on.

heartsonacake · 11/08/2020 15:11

I don't know why people get so offended and annoyed at people for feeling anxious?

OP Because your anxiety does nothing but cause you issues and spread your problems to others. It’s not constructive and it’s not helpful to you or anyone else.

fsklgf · 11/08/2020 15:14

I long for my utopian weekends of mindlessly ambling around crowded shopping malls buying things I don't need, and maskless! With dirty hands! Buying, buying, buying! Participating in the economy! What a true paradise!

alltoomuchrightnow · 11/08/2020 15:15

I never stopped working in retail and it's been hell, I"m doing 11 hours a day 7 days a week right now and I'm pooped.
At least you could keep away from it all.
I would not say expressionless and soulless! I can read people's eyes and expressions with masks on but I'm around it all the time.
It's just what you get used to...

PrettyLittleBrownEyedMe · 11/08/2020 15:29

@aridane When this has passed, what possible motivation could the government have in keeping face coverings (or ‘muzzles’ as we are tons) mandatory?

I explained why I think this in my earlier post. Because this obsession with 'keeping people safe' will extend to all sorts of other diseases. Stats will show that flu/colds etc are also down, and therefore it will be seen as an absolute given that if mask-wearing also cuts down these illnesses too, then why wouldn't we do it? Look how many posters on MN, in relation to all sorts of things, take the view that 'if it saves just one death, it will be worth it', or 'if there's the tiniest risk of ***, why would you do it?' - that mindset will persist if masks become normalised.

Personally I don't believe that all these precautions ARE worth it, but I don't seem to be in the majority.

The second reason is, as I said, that there will be never a good time to remove the mandate.

I am not coming at this from a conspiracy-theory mindset, as I'm not suggesting that the government is planning this deliberately with an agenda, but just that the prevailing mood and the outcomes from the current mask-wearing are not conducive to them ever being stopped. And that's depressing.

randomer · 11/08/2020 15:30

OP Because your anxiety does nothing but cause you issues and spread your problems to others. It’s not constructive and it’s not helpful to you or anyone else

Sometimes there is nobody else to " talk " to. The fear builds up and people want to chat about it. Or in the case of th OP, they return to somewhere and find it changed. Things have changed. My suburban town was just about to become a little more dynamic and now a great deal of it is shut down. More will go, I feel sure. Its sad.

PrettyLittleBrownEyedMe · 11/08/2020 15:32

*when I say 'all these precautions', I'm talking about extreme health and safety generally, not the sanitising/social distancing things specifically, just to be clear

PhilSwagielka · 11/08/2020 15:32

The pandemic will die down. We won't be wearing masks forever.

As for soulless and expressionless, people can still express themselves with their eyes.

Lancrelady80 · 11/08/2020 15:34

@Lindy2

We have family visiting the area and thought we'd go out for a meal and catch up. Couldn't do it as nowhere was willing to seat us together (5 adults plus 4 children)and we would have had to be at separate, socially distanced tables and not allowed to mix between the two at all.

Why did you expect to book for 9 people when it's very widely communicated that tables must be no more than 6?

I'm not sure you've been paying attention to what's actually been happening around the world over the last few months. Things are rather different right now to try to limit the spread of a global pandemic. It's somewhat naive to expect to be able to carry on the same as before.

Oh, of course, a pandemic! Didn't know anything about that til now. So glad you've educated me, I must have been asleep all the time I've been juggling homeschooling, working in school and sorting remote learning.

Foolish me for thinking restrictions were beginning to ease so things could begin to head back towards normal.

As it happened, I thought I remembered something about groups of 6 and searched all over the internet about this when family suggested a meal. Nowhere, inc gov website, could I find a reference to that limit. We were expecting to have to be outside and happy for that.

I'm not upset, bothered or whatever about how things planned out, just pointing out another example of things that were no problem before being difficult now. We will do what needs doing and rightly so, Covid is way more important. But it's not nice doing things so differently from the way we are used to.

PhilSwagielka · 11/08/2020 15:35

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safariboot · 11/08/2020 15:38

If you're healthy you'll get used to it. It's become routine for me now. Mask on, glasses off (because the mask makes them steam up), shop as normal, silently grumble about the number of people not wearing masks.

I don't do as much idle browsing as I used to, because it's not necessary, but I've done it on occasion when I got fed up of being cooped up in the house all the time.

It's unacceptable that Covid-19 has become a license to ignore disabilities though.

MarshaBradyo · 11/08/2020 15:42

Pretty it’s not going to happen, we won’t wear masks when this dies down, it’s not worth feeling depressed about it.

PhilSwagielka · 11/08/2020 15:43

@safariboot

If you're healthy you'll get used to it. It's become routine for me now. Mask on, glasses off (because the mask makes them steam up), shop as normal, silently grumble about the number of people not wearing masks.

I don't do as much idle browsing as I used to, because it's not necessary, but I've done it on occasion when I got fed up of being cooped up in the house all the time.

It's unacceptable that Covid-19 has become a license to ignore disabilities though.

That is a valid point. Not allowing people to sit down is a shitty thing to do. Elderly and disabled shoppers do need a break sometimes. I've had to sit down on bad days.
Aragog · 11/08/2020 16:17

And yy re the expressionless faces - just darting and furtive eyes

But surely farting and furtive eyes would be showing an expression or emotion?

If the faces were expressionless wouldn't the eyes just be blank, staring unfocused straight ahead perhaps?

I've discovered that you can tell a lot about people hair through their eyes and forehead.

I've seen people playing online with children 'guess my emotion' type games whilst wearing masks. It's surprising how well attuned we can become if we focus more careful on eyes - a lot of emotion can be shown just through the eyes.

Aragog · 11/08/2020 16:19

Do those of you saying it's not forever really believe it's not going to be forever?

Of course it won't be forever. Pandemics have never lasted forever yet.

We will either learn to treat it more effectively, including longer term issues or we will develop a vaccine. Maybe both as we are already working well towards both.

And failing that we'd learn to live with it somehow.

HeIenaDove · 11/08/2020 16:35

@StormTreader Dystopian is an overreaction? Really?

graziadaily.co.uk/life/in-the-news/sex-advice-coronavirus-risk/

Noextremes2017 · 11/08/2020 16:54

It’s all part of the Government’s plan to keep people living in fear in the hope that if they are scared they will be compliant.
A lot of very ‘over the top’ rules and regulations drawn up by petty Government officials who get a kick out of being ‘important’ as long as the ‘crisis’ continues.

Quaagars · 11/08/2020 16:57

But surely farting and furtive eyes would be showing an expression or emotion?

Farting eyes Grin

FluffyKittensinabasket · 11/08/2020 16:58

alltoomuchrightnow - you’re working 77 hour weeks with no days off? That’s crazy!

KatherineJaneway · 11/08/2020 17:04

Do those of you saying it's not forever really believe it's not going to be forever?

Yes. Things will change. Masks will likely become more common even after the pandemic, but it won't become the norm. I'll stop wearing one as soon as it is allowed.

wanderings · 11/08/2020 17:13

I don't believe that the pandemic will last for ever. But I do believe that if we are not careful, and don't watch this matter like hawks, and are too accepting, some of the government-imposed restrictions and laws (including mask laws) might last MUCH longer than the pandemic.

Another government slogan was "be vigilant". We shall be vigilant.

Aragog · 11/08/2020 17:14

Oops - why does autocorrect just change anything and everything?!?!

PhilCornwall1 · 11/08/2020 17:15

And people are saying this covid shit isn't getting weird? Hmmm ok then.

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-wear-a-face-mask-during-sex-and-avoid-kissing-to-reduce-covid-19-risk-charity-says-12046999

randomer · 11/08/2020 17:16

farting eyes has cheered me up !