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To feel sorry for Scottish children?

715 replies

silver3 · 10/08/2020 11:58

Imagine having to go back to school in this suffocating heat in new blazers and school shoes. I know September can be warm too but, it seems to me, there’s nearly always a heat wave like this in mid-August. My DC have been sleeping in the basement on and off for weeks because their bedrooms are like saunas. Schools don’t always have air-conditioning. AIBU to think Nicola Sturgeon should just push the start of term back to Sept?

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2bazookas · 10/08/2020 14:51

@LadyOfTheImprovisedBath

I believe term dates relate to historic farming and related child labour which could surely be reviewed now.

They keep talking about doing this - latest thing is them again looking at changing A-level results and Uni start dates -so people apply with their actual results.

More news for you. Scottish schools don't do " A levels."
LouScot · 10/08/2020 14:53

To be fair to op, it's genuinely roasting here
in the centrak belt just now. Seriously, phone is saying 18!! I know that's a whopping 12 degrees lower than you'd expect what with it being in the 30s in London Confused but yes, almost wanted to take my clothes off! I sat outside with my cuppa until the sun went away..

Like almost every other poster has said, our weather is remarkably different. Our summer is in May normally when we sometimes reach the tropical temperatures of mid 20s for a day or two.

silver3 · 10/08/2020 14:54

Ok you clever physicist you , but I think you understand what I mean.

Normally, if you watch the weather in summer if it’s day 34 in London, it might be maybe 25 in Edinburgh. So cooler yes, but still warm. Then it might be 18 in Orkney, something like that.

I’m sorry if I’ve been guilty of over-estimating Scottish average temperatures, but worse things do happen, to be fair.

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Dugsbollox · 10/08/2020 14:55

It is very, very rarely 25 in Edinburgh!

DanniArthur · 10/08/2020 14:55

Has Scotland not noticed any changes in the summers then?
I see what you mean OP. Yes I do agree that the temperatures seem to have risen due to climate change. I'm in Glasgow and have noticed it more in April/May, which have became very warm, sunny months for us the past few years. This year we reached 29 degrees which is VERY warm in scotland.

Womencanlift · 10/08/2020 14:56

I am a Scot living in London and I often have to defend the London-centric view that comes out of the media to my Scottish friends and family.

However I can’t defend you OP. It would have taken you less time to look at bbc weather than to write your post if you were that concerned about the poor kids. As a pp said it’s ignorant comments and posts like this one that make people outside of the boundaries of the M25 give up

GingerScallop · 10/08/2020 14:59

This made me laugh. I wonder why the UK bothers with schools and an education department. Schools are such a dangerous place for children! So what, too hot now for kids. Then it will be too wet in Autumn. Then too cold and dark in Winter. And surely in Spring it will be too beautiful to spend time time in class. In between all that, there are crises and pandemics. Lock up the kids

Wheresthebiffer2 · 10/08/2020 15:01

It's 21c in my part of the Highlands today, and I'm roasting. Grin

SD1978 · 10/08/2020 15:03

Yeah- it's really not that big a deal. If it gets warm, blazers can be removed. I'd probably have a better understanding of the Scottish/English weather differences.

silver3 · 10/08/2020 15:09

Ok so I’ve been to the Lake District a few times and it does feel like a totally different climate, yes. I’ve been there when it’s rained for 5 days solid and it’s about 19, when SE England its about 35. That was last summer, I think. But, then people say, “Oh you just came on a bad week,” or “It was glorious here just before you came.” And they are locals so I take their word for it. Same with Scotland. I have experienced it to be distinctly cooler / rainier, but still, I wouldn’t extrapolate it’s always like that all the time because people tell me the weather is not too bad and “oh typical Londoners who think it’s the Arctic north of Manchester” or some nonsense. So you can’t win.

Anyway, may I sincerely and unreservedly apologise once again to anyone outraged or offended that I thought it was probably warm in Scotland this week.

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ComeOnBabyPopMyBubble · 10/08/2020 15:10

In defence of the OP, there is a heat wave down south. Neither the people or the buildings/infrastructure are equipped to deal with it so brains are melting just as much as train tracks.

Not a lot of thinking going on today in my flat, which is 25 degrees and still much cooler than outside.

The mugginess doesn't help either. Everything feels...moist.

ChangeThePassword · 10/08/2020 15:18

Anyway, may I sincerely and unreservedly apologise once again to anyone outraged or offended that I thought it was probably warm in Scotland this week

It has been warm in Scotland this week, certainly where I am.

IsaLain · 10/08/2020 15:20

It is warm here! But not sweltering "kids cant cope in school" heat. It's just nice (although its getting more close feeling which matches with the predicted rain and thunderstorm).

PollyPelargonium52 · 10/08/2020 15:22

Not just the south that is hot. Midlands here and 29 degrees.

Augustseemsbetter · 10/08/2020 15:23

I wrapped myself in a blanket to watch TV one night last werk.

It WAS slightly muggy overnight recently.

That's about it for a heatwave Sad.

Wheresthebiffer2 · 10/08/2020 15:26

I'm impressed you know the Scottish schools have different term times and holidays from England.

jerometheturnipking · 10/08/2020 15:29

This is why DS will be wearing shorts and no jumper on Wednesday if it’s warm 🤷🏻‍♀️

Dissimilitude · 10/08/2020 15:29

The temp differential between the south east and Scotland has been mad, I was just talking about it at work today with colleagues. It's quite often 10-15 degrees of difference.

You wouldn't think 3-400 miles would make all that much difference, but it does!

AuntyMabelandPippin · 10/08/2020 15:38

@FlamingoAndJohn Sun's finally out so yes!

merrymouse · 10/08/2020 15:42

The London basin is often 5 degrees hotter than the rest of the south east, and anyone who lives on the coast anywhere in the UK knows that the weather 5 miles inland can be completely different.

Candyflosscookie · 10/08/2020 15:46

I'm approximately 500 miles further up the country than a good friend of mine. The temp differences are often 10 degrees or more when we are chatting about our plans for the day. It was a pleasant 22-23 over the weekend and today it's 18c and overcast.

Our best weather is usually May/early June with sometimes a nice spell in September. April this year had a good spell too. July and August can be quite hit n miss and usually wetter.

Pillypocket666 · 10/08/2020 15:47

How can it only be 18 in Glasgow when it’s mid 30s here? Sorry, I had just assumed it myst be about 30 up there.
Pish aff and stop being smug.

Only kidding but it really - last year was a fabulous summer but it's maybe 16 where I am and it's been raining. Even if it gets that hot in Scotland (rarely) the bairns just man up and get on with it :)

HaudMaDug · 10/08/2020 15:57

[quote AuntyMabelandPippin]@FlamingoAndJohn Sun's finally out so yes![/quote]
Calm yersels an keep yer simmit on!

HaudMaDug · 10/08/2020 15:59

I'm just lighting the fire. Its no that warm. Grin

LadyOfTheImprovisedBath · 10/08/2020 16:00

@2bazookas More news for you. Scottish schools don't do " A levels."

I'm astounded anyone don't know this - though perhaps given the entire thread I shouldn't be.

If they didn't before this last week scottish Higher have been in national UK news since they got their results.

I therefore assumed it was bloody obvious this was a recent example of how there always talk of changing terms - across the UK -and occionally small local experiments but nothing ever really happens.

Though we used to live next to Lecistershire which had different term date to our county and Health Minister seemed unware of that.

Scotland has many differences that crop up regularly on here - differnt legal and hosue buying systems for example.

Incidentally I'm in wales where education is under the devolved government and the edcuation system is increasingly seperating from England. So no idea how the proposed timetable A-level/Uni start date changes would play out here as the A-level system is different but many Welsh/English students cross borders for education as well.

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