To worry most people won’t ever ‘get it’

[OverTheRainbow88]

All the marches, Protests etc and people still don’t seem to understand!

Will they ever?

Umm.. what about the ginger mermaid whose hair is too fluffy? Is that one not offensive too then? People with ginger hair have been mocked relentlessly for decades, yet no one seems to be claiming that that's prejudiced.

This reminds me of the BLM Vs the all lives matter.

No this really doesn't. I have 3 children, 2 with really beautiful red hair. However since they were babies I've had to face comments about how awful if is, 'they'll hate it when they're older', 'they can dye it' etc. After my first red haired child I remember saying to a friend, who is black, I hoped my second child would be a red head too. I remember her clearly saying 'most people would wish for the opposite' and 'they'll get picked on when they're older'. I was really shocked that it was seen as acceptable to say this over something that a person can't help - and also is very beautiful. I realise some people might think red hair isn't lovely just as some might dislike afro hair. I still don't understand why picking on people with red hair is acceptable.

YANBU

Some people will never “get it”, because they simply have no desire or will to “get it.”

Not race, but sexuality related.

My girlfriend’s 91 year old grandfather who grew up in the US Bible Belt was initially disgusted by the idea of having a gay granddaughter.
However he soon saw how badly this was affecting his relationship with her and other family members, started to think that maybe there’s more to what had been drilled into his brain for, at that stage, 86 years. So one day he decided he wanted to “get it” and now, he does and has attended the last 4 pride parades in his nearest city.

Some people however are content living in their bubble and have no desire to leave it.

PutBabyInTheCorner oh gosh. You can’t possibly be comparing the plight of black people the plight of redheads? Surely you see how ridiculous that is?

“I still don't understand why picking on people with red hair is acceptable.”

It’s not, but even if we pretend that people picking on people red hair is on a par to racism... it’s not the texture of red hair that’s criticised, it’s the colour, so fluffy doesn’t bring the same connotations.

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I'm not comparing it to the plight of racism.
I'm saying some forms of bullying are still very much seen as acceptable.
People would rightly be horrified if a child was picked on at school for being black. If it's for having red hair however it's seen as funny and something they should put up with.

I agree, putbabyinacorner.

It's not nice to say mean things about red hair. From the way you write it, the hair sounds gorgeous!

However racism goes further and deeper I reckon.

But all pain hurts.

I haven't read all the threads on this post but in my opinion, this is ridiculous! I'm not black but have "fluffy" (actually it's meant to be curly but the humidity we're currently experiencing makes it frizzy) hair. The t-shirt is hardly racist for that reason alone and for heaven's sake, it's based on a children's book!!! The phrasing is part of a story.....end of!

I’ve not read the whole post and I’m not black but... both statements sum up your whole post quite nicely.

@OverTheRainbow88

I’ve not read the whole post and I’m not black but... both statements sum up your whole post quite nicely.

How??? There have been black people posting that they think it's ridiculous and white people posting that they agree with you. Sorry, but your statement above just comes across as racist at worst and a big chip on the shoulder at best.

@OP are you black? Sorry I haven't once see you mention it on this whole thread?

@OhReallyThen

Yes I have mentioned , my children’s dad is from Nigeria.

My dad is Israeli and my mum is dual heritage- Her mum is black and dad is white.

@Staffy1

It is frustrating when someone jumps on a posts, admits they’ve not read through it properly then declares it ridiculous .

If @trixie1970 Would have read it through and realised others experiences she/he may not think it is as ridiculous as previously thought.

So I am looking for my trainers sock for running and found a pair of lovely fluffy winter socks that don't belong to me. Is it wrong to say "These are not my socks, they are too fluffy!".

Our sensitive has became more racist than ever.

@Worstyear2020

So I am looking for my trainers sock for running and found a pair of lovely fluffy winter socks that don't belong to me. Is it wrong to say "These are not my socks, they are too fluffy!".

Our sensitive has became more racist than ever.

Well, if fluffy socks are any other colour than dark brown or black, apparently it’s ok...But if they’re dark in colour, you’re racist for not jogging in them...😉

I see we have geniuses here.

OP, well done for 'hosting' still, especially the very very clever ones among us.

I see the 'undercover moaners' are still out here moaning about people moaning. They can't help but dig up the thread after days of moving on silence to get their tuppence froth on.

But who am I to stop fellow moaners, albeit still in disguise, though? Carry on.

My last point on this is comparing the experiences of a person to that of an inanimate object, such as, a sock is insulting at best.

OP I think most of them DO get it, they just don't want to acknowledge racism as they know a reordering would remove a lot of their privilege. They understand well that a true meritocracy would necessitate them ceding a fair few rungs.

They know. They're holding the territory.

I think it is a terrible message that the book is giving. I like Usborne usually, but they're aren't a particularly inclusive publisher nor one who are sensitive to race. I like this series when it describes animals but regardless of the racism, I don't like how this particular book describes the mermaids by how they look. It's reductive and we should be moving away from this with children.

Could it not be as simple as including BAME representatives in marketing consultation if as a business you really want to be inclusive? Otherwise it just looks as though you're playing at it and are clueless.