To think schools should not reopen in Sept?

[SusanFrimp]

I think that schools should not fully reopen in September and instead be partially reopened to some years. It is just not safe enough to reopen yet. I'd say December at the latest for full reopening. If they can't reopen other smaller places, how can they reopen schools with 1000's of kids? AIBU?

In RL all teachers and children I know want to go back full time to school. I don’t know anyone who is considering keeping their DC’s at home.

LaurieMarlow
Plenty more examples where that came from. It sounded awfully familiar to me.

and they are all problem with your schools.
And if we look further the lack of guidance from the government but it seems that it is easier just to blame the schools.

Schools were open for vulnerable children all the time, unfortunately the majority of them did not attend, no matter how hard the schools tried to encourage the families.

Also the fact that children were killed cannot be blamed on schools.

[quote FrippEnos]**@ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia

Are you aware that the same newspaper was using the Geoff Barton quote out of context to say that unions were obstructing the opening of schools?[/quote]
Thanks for the heads up and pointing that out.

I tend to scan and speed read material from the whole rainbow of viewpoints and (hidden) agendas so will be on notice to look at this with more vigorously.

Some of the stuff online - you could not make it!

With best endeavours I think neutral position works best and try to analyse and navigate the minefield as I see fit. I am also looking at this from an open international multilingual prospective and most international friends, family and business colleagues, associates and clients think we Brits are not doing that great (apart from those based in USA and Brazil) and can't understand why UK Covid data is so shocking.

And if we look further the lack of guidance from the government but it seems that it is easier just to blame the schools.

Well, I’m not sure who else I’d blame for our school thinking ‘two twinkl worksheets a week, no feedback, no response to queries or requests for more’ was sufficient educational provision for my child.

I agree the provision from some (I would say most, but accept that's anecdotal) schools has been atrocious. It's certainly been the case for the two schools our children go to-and one of my sons is about to start year 11.
That said, the government is mainly to blame for their lack of guidance. If they had made a certain level of online provision compulsory we would be much better off, and children who don't have access to the internet could have been targeted in a meaningful way with small group catch up sessions on return.
What I do place at the door of the schools is the complete lack of contact from some schools. Neither of my children are classed as vulnerable (one has severe social anxiety worsened by months off school, but not classed as vulnerable). Notwithstanding that both had only one call from the school, and that just a few weeks before the end of term. Not good enough in my view-presumably there were some teachers who were not teaching key workers' children who could have called? Again though there should have been clear guidance and expectation set on this by the government.

That means that you still have a problem with your school.

As for the work, many schools were waiting for more guidance that never came.

Having said that some schools haven't seemed to have bothered.

But most schools have.

I’m sure others have said this but....YABU to ask a question that’s been asked a million times before on here. Go to the coronavirus section and read some posts.

FWIW I think YABU about the schools too. We need to get back to normal at some point and frankly education is important. You can’t put back new intakes so it needs to press on.
IF cases increase dramatically then maybe another lockdown will happen, when and if that happens talk about it then.

Not read the entire post but this is the strongest I’ve felt in writing YABU ever. Feel free not to send your own children to school but don’t bring the rest of our children down with you 🙄

csigeek
IF cases increase dramatically then maybe another lockdown will happen, when and if that happens talk about it then.

This is why we are in such a mess now, it is the job of the government to sort out plans for what might happen.

They have had since 20th of March to do something about this and they have done fuck all. Even the promised laptops and tutoring has not appeared.

Do you really want them to do everything at the last minute?

@BellsaRinging that is very poor of your school. I am a governor and the Governing body challenged the SLT what they were doing in respect of contacting families including ones not currently identified as vulnerable, and our schools were contacting them at least weekly, more if they had not received any work from in the week, and that was mainly to check they were ok, not to chase for work. There were also visits to some families where work/food hampers were being dropped off, so visual and verbal contact (from the end of a drive) could be made.

Yet again ANOTHER thread about Covid and schools, SERIOUSLY?

ENOUGH.

Children are in the least at risk category (underlying issues not withstanding) and normality needs to resume: safely, preferably with masks in situ but resume none the less.

As previously stated, bills and mortgages need to be paid, folks need to retain jobs and kids need an education.

I deregistered my DD and she will be in a home schooling program which she started in June: not because of the pandemic but because of the woeful education she was receiving.

If you feel that strongly do the same.

My child’s school last school year when classes could start returning, took a few grades at a time. The building it small and since they split up many of the classes with more students, a few grades including my son’s never returned because they were using it for the other classes. My son hasn’t seen the inside of a classroom since March.

Nah sod that, my son needs to start his full time reception place come September with some days of after school club. I work full time and don't have a job that I can dip in and out of. My services run as usual so with respect the education sector needs to get up and get on.

I get the feeling that those not really affected by covid think it’s all fab. I personally know a sadly growing list of young healthy people affected and killed by covid so I’m very worried. Scares me a lot as an immune compromised person. No idea what to do about my kids and schooling now

@Vinomummyinlockdown people don't think it's "all fab" but some of us don't have the luxury of being able to home educate our children properly. I work out of the home and need to carry on doing so if I want to keep my house and feed my child. Coronavirus is not the only thing that matters.

Parents I know don’t have a choice about whether their DC’s should return to school. With two full time working parents, there isn’t a choice. You can’t work from home with young children at home.

Honestly the virus is here for the medium term, it's just not realistic to keep kids off until it's deemed 'virus safe'.
A few months I got over but they need to get back now.

Waxonwaxoff0 I get that but a dead parent can’t earn anything and that’s what I would be facing. My illness is bad enough / life threatening WITHOUT covid as a factor. What shall I do?????? Get fined? Great. We should at least have a choice.

I agree that parents should be given the choice, what I don't agree with is people saying schools shouldn't open at all therefore removing the choice for those of us who do want our children to go back.

I’ve Deregistered my youngest 2 - one is yr 6 but can get a priority sibling place at his brothers school When we return. Older is in last year of Prep but has a secure place for Yr 9. Taking a year out with lots of relaxation and some home/online tutoring. Everyone had called different situation, you just need to do what’s best for you. Can’t expect schools to close when the majority want them to open? Even though it would suit me if they did!

Today's news - 97000 children in US got Covid in July

Israel school reopening led to second wave

Hey ho we have Gavin Williamson saying it's safe without any evidence

The UK isn’t the US. There are lots of faults with how the UK have dealt with Covid but it’s not out of control as in the US.

If somehow we could have an interim period over the winter months (worst for nhs, flu etc) where those who CAN home school keep kids off if they want and those who can’t keep them off, place kids in school maybe we would get through this better? I don’t want to home school but I am seriously scared for my life. Just a normal flare for me can me ICU without covid as a factor so I need to try to balance things. This would not scare me so much if I didn’t know too many people affected. Normally I’m more relaxed.

@Vinomummyinlockdown I think surely that would be a better option. If some people do want to or need to keep their children home then why not allow them to do so, better for them and better for the staff and children who do need to be at school as there will be less children in.