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To think Boris has got what he always wanted?

103 replies

Regulus · 31/07/2020 18:11

Boris has been vocal on his admiration for Churchill, he grew up wanting to be a PM, he wanted to be remembered like Churchill, he wanted to make history. Without doubt he's done it, there has been no one since Churchill who has done as much to fill history books. OK so he wanted to Get Brexit Done rather than a pandemic and I know that's out of his hands but isn't this the biggest lesson in 'be careful what you wish for?'

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Mittens030869 · 01/08/2020 07:29

He will make history, as the PM during the COVID-19 pandemic who allowed the UK to have the highest death rate in Europe. Not exactly something I'd want to be remembered for.

Of course he also nearly made history as the only PM who died whilst in office, and because of his own stupidity for shaking hands with COVID patients.

WellIWasInTheNeighbourhoo · 01/08/2020 08:57

He'll make history in exactly the same way his mate Trump will, as an embarrassment (at best).

Callipygion · 01/08/2020 11:18

Have the people defending our ‘great leader‘ (sarcasm intended) watched that twitter link posted up thread? And are you all Daily Mail readers by any chance?

wowfudge · 01/08/2020 11:32

I am happy I played no part in him becoming PM. He's incompetent and an embarrassment. By the end of the year a no deal Brexit will be added to his list of "achievements". It takes a special kind of megalomaniac to get elected then fail to perform quite so spectacularly and fail to deliver for those who voted for his party. I suspect he lacks the self awareness to realise his shortcomings as a leader.

Whatisthisfuckery · 01/08/2020 11:38

Johnson will go down in history without a doubt. He’ll be remembered as the PM who crashed the UK out of the EU, destroying the fragile peace in NI and decimating the entire UK economy. Not to mention presiding over the largest global pandemic in 100 years and making a disastrous mess of it. I’m sure he’ll add to his illustrious list of clusterfucks before he’s either deposed or voted out, destroying and disbanding the NHS being uppermost in his legacy I’m sure.

BJ wanted the grand platform and the Churchillian speeches, he did not and does not want the actual business of running the country. The history books will not be kind to him, and neither will the British public by the time he’s done taking our country back and turning it into a poverty stricken shithole.

He’ll probably succeed in curtailing immigration though, as nobody will want to come here.

VinylDetective · 01/08/2020 11:39

I suspect he lacks the self awareness to realise his shortcomings as a leader

I suspect he’s surrounded by sycophants who constantly tell him how wonderful he is. MN seems to be teeming with people who claim to believe it, just think what it’s like among those with vested interests.

wanderings · 01/08/2020 11:42

Tony Bliar liked playing with his toy soldiers, sending them out to his war. Boris is enjoying playing with his toys: manipulating the people of England, like a child directing the citizens of Legoland (my brother and I used to do this. Blush )

The only soundbite of Boris's I'll remember is yesterday's "squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze the brakes". (vomit)

I heard a programme on Radio 4 about Dominic Cummings, who allegedly said when recruiting for the civil service "I want people who are a bit weird, have imagination, and unusual ways of thinking. I don't want confident public school bluffers." Too bad that he works for one!

PerkingFaintly · 01/08/2020 12:01

Dominic Cummings is, himself, a confident public school bluffer. The sort who thinks himself a rebel because he doesn't wear a tie.

Piglet89 · 01/08/2020 12:05

Oh my Christ, as Pamela from Gavin & Stacey night say. Don’t start me on Cummings.

wowfudge · 01/08/2020 12:39

I'm very sceptical about Cummings - not least because he's spent time living and working in Russia.

PerkingFaintly · 01/08/2020 12:48

I suspect he lacks the self awareness to realise his shortcomings as a leader

See, I think that's an excellent description of Trump.

I don't think it's a description of Johnson, who has actually bragged that he's lazy and gets other people to do the work.

I think Johnson's self-aware, selfish and cynical. He never had any intention of leading; getting his name on the door was all he wanted. He's like a person who pays someone else to take an exam or fiddle the timings in a race heat: the cheat's under no illusion that they understand the topic or can run faster than anyone else, but that's not what matters to them.

SabrinaThwaite · 01/08/2020 12:49

Nice bit of nepotism to add to the mix, elevating his brother to the HoL.

Piglet89 · 01/08/2020 13:24

@SabrinaThwaite I mean - just SHAMELESS. The brass neck of it.

Mittens030869 · 01/08/2020 13:45

Well he nearly paid the price when he ended up in intensive care.

LockdownLump · 01/08/2020 14:02

Boris Johnson could not give one shiny shite about the people in this country.

He cares about his mates and their businesses.

Anyone who thinks any different, is absolutely fooling themselves.

Does anyone really think he cares about old people and BAME people dying? He could not give less of a fuck.

RedRumTheHorse · 01/08/2020 14:18

@SarahBellam

He’s a fucking twat faced puppet who is nothing more than a mouthpiece for that haunted spoon, Dominic Cummings. The very fact that Boris didn’t ditch him after the whole COVID dash to Durham shows how dependent he is on him. Boris likes being PM in the same way that a 4 year old likes being a train driver. He likes the fun and saying choo-choo but he has no fucking idea how to get people from A to B safely. He’s held up by that rag bag cabinet, almost completely devoid of talent, who are there purely because they support Brexit. I’ve voted conservative before, but this shower of inept fuckwits are so bad that if I’d had the chance I’d take back that vote I’d do it. Get rid of Boris. Government needs a grown up right now.
He claims to be a scholar of history. If he is he would have got Cummings to resign and then brought him back a few months later like Blair did with Mandelson.
rose69 · 01/08/2020 14:56

Yes if his aim was to turn this country into a laughing stock.

CountreeGurl · 01/08/2020 15:57

He will be remembered as worst ever PM, who presided over thousands of unnecessary deaths and perhaps the break up of the union. I honestly can't believe he is still in post after the handling of the pandemic and his illegal porouging of Parliament, he doesn't even have the decency to resign.

Danetobe · 01/08/2020 17:11

I’ll concede he will be remembered as the PM during Covid 19 and when the U.K. left the EU, but TBH I find him a bit meh. He’s not slimey enough to really detest (like Cameron - who I think was worse). Johnson is just incompetent, and is in his job because of the times. Seriously he would never be PM without the Brexit shit show. His lack of talent and reliant on lying (how many kids in poverty are there Johnson??) and dodgy back room deals is being laid bare. He’s not even good at that really. I wish he’d go back to journalism and let more experienced professionals run the country.

Pobblebonk · 01/08/2020 17:18

Ultimately Johnson is going to be remembered as one of the most corrupt PMs we have ever had. The evidence that is currently coming out about the number of government contracts that have gone to friends of the cabinet, or friends of Cummings, is absolutely shocking - and that's just the evidence they haven't managed to bury. There's a lot worse to come.

DGRossetti · 01/08/2020 17:25

But imagine school children 50 years from now doing British Politics.

In Russian ?

itsgettingweird · 01/08/2020 18:08

@Pobblebonk

Ultimately Johnson is going to be remembered as one of the most corrupt PMs we have ever had. The evidence that is currently coming out about the number of government contracts that have gone to friends of the cabinet, or friends of Cummings, is absolutely shocking - and that's just the evidence they haven't managed to bury. There's a lot worse to come.
And I understand some of those have been hide financially and haven't actually produced results?

Not the wisest move when economy is already struggling

wanderings · 01/08/2020 18:31

I sometimes wonder what sort of job Tony Blair (whom I loathed with a passion) would have made of the whole thing. He would probably have been much more decisive, and would have absolutely REVELLED in the power trip of being able to tell people what to do on such a big scale; and the possibility of cancelling Christmas would have been his wet dream.

VinylDetective · 01/08/2020 19:09

If Blair had been PM during a pandemic, the communication would have been a hell of a lot clearer and more consistent, that’s for sure.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 01/08/2020 19:59

@VinylDetective

If Blair had been PM during a pandemic, the communication would have been a hell of a lot clearer and more consistent, that’s for sure.
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