CF home buyers

[Teenangels]

I am being unreasonable.

Bit of background put my house up for sale, just after lockdown ended.
I had 9 viewing on the first Saturday and 3 offers. All at different levels one at full price from someone with something to sell, one just under the asking price think 10k in a chain, the third offer was 10% off the asking price, chain free mortgage offer in place. The first time buyers also wanted a second viewing before they offered and wanted me to cancel all other bookings so they could get first chance of buying it, they were told to F off. They put in an offer.
We negotiated with the first time buyers and managed to get them to offer 5% of the asking price this was still 40K under the asking price. but we had found a house and for ease went with them but told them that this was a fixed price and there would be no further movement on price from either party.
This was beginning of June, they have had a mortgage offer and surveyor round, all fine house was valued at over their offer, I did not move on our price.
Fast forward to beginning of July another surveyors has come round and found some issues, like moss of the roof I kid you not!! That the electrics are not up to current 2019 regulations, the house was re wired in 2016, that they should check the drainage, and one of the struts in the roof is bending by 5 degrees (this is not a supporting part and there is no movement and if they wanted to replace it, it would cost no more than £50.

My buyer wrote a long email to the estate agent 3.5 weeks after they got the report to say that they wanted a structural engineer to come into the house, a builder and a plumber and electrician and we would have to vacate the house for the day so that they could check everything.
He wants the electrician to take off all the plugs and check the wiring in some of the walls (Channel them out) but not be responsible for any damage. I told them to f off, he wants to check that the electrics are working and safe ( we live in the house with 4 kids).
He is now saying that I have to let him have access.
I have given him access on Thursday to look at the roof, but not to do any electrical work.
I have said that if he plays anymore games the house will be back on the market, I think he wants me to reduce the price, there is no chance.

Speak to your husband 😮😮😮

That would absolutely be the last straw and I'd make sure they knew full well that their sexist bullshit is what lost them their house!

I had one of these - had to sell house quickly - divorce still living together - had 7 offers and accepted one 35k over asking as they were cash buyers - they were not. Buyer had a disabled husband and asked if I would allow a builder to come in and have a look at converting downstairs - no problem said I - unfortunately they had 4 builders lined up and it took 6 hours. Then asked if I would allow them to start the conversion, after exchange but before completion - no you can't. As it turned out, they didn't complete on the day and I had to put my stuff in storage and stay overnight in a hotel (had to buy knickers - everything packed). Cost me £1000 extra - storage, 2 removals instead of 1 - hotel - they refused to pay so took them to small claims and won - very stressful. Beware if they are being difficult before exchange.

We’re buying and selling at the moment. A few issues came up on survey, we are asking for a contractor to go round to get an idea of how much it will cost us. Not to negotiate a discount, just because we want to know we’re not going to have to shell out £30k in the first year. But we’re not asking for anything invasive (eg survey recommends we check floors underneath the floor coverings, we’re not expecting to lift them), that’s ridiculous.

Oh my word. After that little gem, I absolutely would be straight back on the market! Wonder how they’ll react to that...

First time buyers are a pain in the arse.

I had similar, their surveyor said the roof would possibly need replacing in 10-15 years (um, like all roofs then?), and they wanted £10k off as a result. I just said no. I got a roofer friend to look, and replace a couple of broken tikes while up there, and he said it was fine

They also saw a small pane of glass, double glazed, that was 'blown', and asked for £5k off and said they would overlook it if I agreed to the move date they wanted. The move date they wanted was the one date I could not do (I had an exam, immovable) and I was totally flexible about every other date.
I got the pane replaced myself (suggest you do the same with the ceiling strutt), cost about £25 and totally took the wind out of their sails - the glazer was stunned anyone would bother replacing it, it was about 20cm square!

Anyway, just keep saying no. And, 'if the house isn't suitable for you, we're happy to put it back on the market'.

Why doesn't England move to the Scottish system - houses are advertised as either fixed price, offers or offers over.

Once a verbal offer is made it is locked in, if the buyer pulls out then the bill for re-advertising falls to them.The verbal offer also blocks gazumping. Once final checks are completed then the full offer goes in giving a move-in date and that is fixed too once accepted.

@Teenangels

It just gets better, because I have refused their demands to come and do the electrics they have asked that the estate agent speaks to my husband.

Good luck with that one.... I don't have one.

The house is going back on the market. I am done with these stupid fuckers.

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Oh my god that’s priceless!

I need to know what you said to them in response to the 'speak to your husband' comment.. and their response!

What planet are they ON? I wish I were a fly on the wall to see their faces when they realise they have lost the house through being arseholes!

(Yeah im pretty mean today, shit day, shit week, need cheering up!)

Wow what a fucking cheek!!

I'd love to see the EAs face when they were asked to go and speak to your husband because the pesky woman won't bow to their demands!

First time buyers are buying a house worth £800,000?

misses point

indeed - what a mortgage that must be? wow

Once a verbal offer is made it is locked in, if the buyer pulls out then the bill for re-advertising falls to them.The verbal offer also blocks gazumping. Once final checks are completed then the full offer goes in giving a move-in date and that is fixed too once accepted.

Not true anymore cd until the missives are signed then there is very little come back. You could technically take them to court but it wouldn't be recommended. On our last sale (about 2003/4) we had first buyer pull out to go buy something else and then we had to reject a 2nd buyers offer as they were failing to progress. We put the price up and sold in a few days to a 3rd on the stipulation that they had to complete missives quickly.

Speak to your husband? Only if you can speak to their mum.

I sold a house a year ago. The first couple to see it put in an offer under price (inexpensive 2 bed terrace in a okish part of a notorious town, not expensive and priced to sell) we asked for a little more and settled on an amount. Surveys done, contracts sent via solicitors. I signed mine and gave it back. Date set for exchange.

The day before exchange I got a call from a very apologetic estate agent. They wanted £10k off or they didn't want to proceed. waffle, waffle, brexit, waffle.

I said I would allow the 2k drop to their original offer but no more and we had to exchange immediately. If they weren't happy with that the agent should use my exact wording and tell them 'to get to fuck'. She did She felt the 10k was testing the waters and there was no guarantee that they wouldn't try for more if they succeeded.

Took a few months to get a buyer. And the market slumped and I probably lost 10k but I loved that house and I wouldn't have been happy for the original buyers to have it to live in after their CFery.

Back on the market is the best way to deal with this. It's a pity that it's not more straightforward.

I would put it back on the market and not accept a lower price so you aren't losing out on the fees you have already paid out on. They are probably over enthusiastic but they are taking the piss.

Christ they sound infuriating. Asking to speak to your husband ffs, what a misogynistic wanker. I’m glad you’ve put it back on the market. It’s the only way to deal with people like this, showing them that having a shitty attitude doesn’t get them their own way.

We asked to check electrics on our ftb house a few years ago. DPs cousin is an electrician so they previous owners let us pop round one night. Popped a few light switches and sockets off, but it wasn’t to try to renegotiate price it was just so we knew if we needed to budget a rewire in. Luckily we didn’t!

It’s not totally impossible for first time buyers to be buying an £800,000 house - they may have come into an inheritance that has allowed them to put down a big deposit. Or they may have very well paid jobs to cover a big mortgage.

@elfycat

I sold a house a year ago. The first couple to see it put in an offer under price (inexpensive 2 bed terrace in a okish part of a notorious town, not expensive and priced to sell) we asked for a little more and settled on an amount. Surveys done, contracts sent via solicitors. I signed mine and gave it back. Date set for exchange.

The day before exchange I got a call from a very apologetic estate agent. They wanted £10k off or they didn't want to proceed. waffle, waffle, brexit, waffle.

I said I would allow the 2k drop to their original offer but no more and we had to exchange immediately. If they weren't happy with that the agent should use my exact wording and tell them 'to get to fuck'. She did She felt the 10k was testing the waters and there was no guarantee that they wouldn't try for more if they succeeded.

Took a few months to get a buyer. And the market slumped and I probably lost 10k but I loved that house and I wouldn't have been happy for the original buyers to have it to live in after their CFery.

Back on the market is the best way to deal with this. It's a pity that it's not more straightforward.

I had exactly the same experience years ago. Wanted another reduction the day before exchange. I told him to get stuffed. His mortgage offer was about to expire, he’d shelled out survey fees and had to pay the solicitor who’d put him up to it.

We exchanged the next day as planned.

@Teenangels

It just gets better, because I have refused their demands to come and do the electrics they have asked that the estate agent speaks to my husband.

Good luck with that one.... I don't have one.

The house is going back on the market. I am done with these stupid fuckers.

How fucking dare they! Speak to your husband? What is this, 1950?

I cannot believe they wanted you to leave the house for a day so they could possibly damage your walls checking electrics that were done to standard only four years ago. They are the worst kind of FTB/CFs! So glad to hear you're putting the house back on the market.

@FizzyGreenWater

Or just send a message back:

'There is no husband. And as a result of that sexist piece of claptrap, there's now no house for you, either.'

Fizzy wins mumsnet responses for today.

Kitncaboodle, love it 🤣

They sound like they are on a price reduction mission.

This ‘ you need to vacate the house business’. A definate no to that.

Wiring - a receipt from the electricians who did the job should suffice. Or they could buy a £10 test plug and try it in everysocket.

Threaten to put it back on the market.

I've bought and sold houses 5 times and NEVER had anyone ask to be allowed to damage my house in this way! They would have got very short shrift if they did.

@burdog

I did think that.

@Teenangels

It just gets better, because I have refused their demands to come and do the electrics they have asked that the estate agent speaks to my husband.

Good luck with that one.... I don't have one.

The house is going back on the market. I am done with these stupid fuckers.

Wow! You, little woman, couldn’t possibly know the ins and outs of selling a house or the electrics so I will need to speak to your owner husband.

No doubt they will gazunder you and try and drop the price on the day of exchange. Happened to us once. Still grates now, nearly 20 years later. Pull out, you had plenty of interest.