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CF home buyers

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Teenangels · 28/07/2020 13:04

I am being unreasonable.

Bit of background put my house up for sale, just after lockdown ended.
I had 9 viewing on the first Saturday and 3 offers. All at different levels one at full price from someone with something to sell, one just under the asking price think 10k in a chain, the third offer was 10% off the asking price, chain free mortgage offer in place. The first time buyers also wanted a second viewing before they offered and wanted me to cancel all other bookings so they could get first chance of buying it, they were told to F off. They put in an offer.
We negotiated with the first time buyers and managed to get them to offer 5% of the asking price this was still 40K under the asking price. but we had found a house and for ease went with them but told them that this was a fixed price and there would be no further movement on price from either party.
This was beginning of June, they have had a mortgage offer and surveyor round, all fine house was valued at over their offer, I did not move on our price.
Fast forward to beginning of July another surveyors has come round and found some issues, like moss of the roof I kid you not!! That the electrics are not up to current 2019 regulations, the house was re wired in 2016, that they should check the drainage, and one of the struts in the roof is bending by 5 degrees (this is not a supporting part and there is no movement and if they wanted to replace it, it would cost no more than £50.

My buyer wrote a long email to the estate agent 3.5 weeks after they got the report to say that they wanted a structural engineer to come into the house, a builder and a plumber and electrician and we would have to vacate the house for the day so that they could check everything.
He wants the electrician to take off all the plugs and check the wiring in some of the walls (Channel them out) but not be responsible for any damage. I told them to f off, he wants to check that the electrics are working and safe ( we live in the house with 4 kids).
He is now saying that I have to let him have access.
I have given him access on Thursday to look at the roof, but not to do any electrical work.
I have said that if he plays anymore games the house will be back on the market, I think he wants me to reduce the price, there is no chance.

OP posts:
Celestine70 · 30/07/2020 00:19

I would pull out. They are trying it on. Also they may pull out last minute as they sound the type.

Loreleigh · 30/07/2020 00:19

These potential buyers signal already that they are going to be a major pain in your backside - you had offers at the full price so know you could get it - and unlikely to get the hassle. It is understandable buyers want to know what they are buying and these days most expect to do some work, most want to 'put their stamp' on the place. They are being highly unreasonable and as well as suspecting they are trying to drive the price down even further, they sound the sort that would hide something in a contract, pester you forever afterwards and expect further concessions. You only chose them for a stress-free sale and they are already piling the stress on - this will inevitably get worse if they get to feel they are in a strong position and you are desperate - do not allow this to happen - they will prey on weakness and take every opportunity to render you more vulnerable. I think they are behaving appallingly - there's a big difference between asking for a small squeeze on price or a small favour but what they are expecting is well out of order - they could've used the money they saved on the price of your house to do anything they felt needed doing -I suspect they still want it for their original offer or less and will go to any lengths for this to happen. If you can stand to start the process again I would be inclined to tell the CF blighters to save themselves a big chunk of cash, buy a massive dildo instead and go fuck themselves!

terrimom · 30/07/2020 01:05

You are the owner and do not need to put up with this nonsense. Do what is best for yourself and your family. Tell him no. Period. No explanation, no wrangling. If he wants to move ahead, fine. If not, put the house back on the market. You are in no way indebted to this person. Get on with your life and quit letting him have any say about it.

TeaAndBiscuitsAndWine · 30/07/2020 01:12

That is some serious CFwittery! Not as bad, but I had issues with a very entitled man who wanted to buy a place I decided to sell early this year. Price was low ‘to generate interest’ on the (bad) advice of the estate agent, who said he would then get buyers competing to up the price (then advised I accept the asking price offer that came on the first day in order to avoid having to do any more viewings!) Then the potential buyer announced that he works in finance and knows the market will drop, and that he was therefore dropping his offer by £15k. Estate agent advised that I accept given that if a man in finance said it was a good price then he was probably right. I took it off the market and rented it out instead 🙄

Shewhomustbeobeyed1 · 30/07/2020 01:25

Are your Current “potential” buyers from Australia? It sounds like the kind if thing that’s would be requested here

CoffeeRunner · 30/07/2020 04:47

Good luck with your viewings OP.

The part about only dealing with your non existent husband would have been enough for me to remarket, regardless of the rest!

You’ve been extremely patient!

Yorkshiretolondon · 30/07/2020 08:19

Just state very clearly that They’ve had their survey, and up to now you’ve been accommodating remind them they are getting a deal, then state a date for exchange or it goes back on the market make clear no more negotiations. When your deadline arrives and if things haven’t happened get it back on the market.
When we sold our flat we had a buyer just like this, had a survey but still wanted people to come and check the loft, windows etc even wanted an electrical survey (at our expense) offer was just below asking price... we’d found our new home and we just wanted the sale so we were very accommodating... but each request we met they found something else, it went back and forward for ages because they knew we’d found our new property and were at risk of loosing.... I woke up one morning and just thought no more! Sent an email to the estate agents and said put it back on the market at 9am I’ve had enough. By 10am we’d had a response from the buying telling us they wanted to exchange- I gave deadline and it was met luckily ... but I think I’d come to terms with loosing our future property and they knew!

SoupDragon · 30/07/2020 08:41

When your deadline arrives and if things haven’t happened get it back on the market.

It is already back on the market with viewings booked.

BumbleBeee69 · 30/07/2020 09:04

ok Im speechless at this couple 😱

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Teenangels · 30/07/2020 09:45

@Shewhomustbeobeyed1
No not Australian.

OP posts:
sas1879 · 30/07/2020 10:36

Put it back on the market. Tell them as clearly it's not up to their standards you feel unable to continue with the sale. They have been very rude to you and I would not want any further dealings with them. I dread to think what else they would try and pull.

Middersweekly · 30/07/2020 11:54

Well done OP!
What an out and out sexist dickhead!
So glad you decided to put it back on the market. Get the full asking price too. Don’t do yourself out of 40k.

ThrawnCow · 30/07/2020 12:02

Put it back on the market! Cancel the cheque!

Keepitup · 30/07/2020 12:02

Just think what you've saved your (hopefully nice) neighbours from!

tara66 · 30/07/2020 12:34

Although you hate them (as do we all) - they may still be your buyer if they come up with the money quickly enough. There's no point in actually refusing to sell to them is there? Is one actually allowed to refuse to sell to a particular person if all their ducks are in a row on the day?

TooTrusting · 30/07/2020 13:11

@tara66

Although you hate them (as do we all) - they may still be your buyer if they come up with the money quickly enough. There's no point in actually refusing to sell to them is there? Is one actually allowed to refuse to sell to a particular person if all their ducks are in a row on the day?
Yes you can refuse. There is no binding contract until after exchange of contracts. I've had two house sales fall through at the last minute - one on the actual day of exchange (and they had viewed the house about 10 times including with their builder and various relatives). It's your right to refuse to sell to a particular person. The point is that the indications here are that there are going to be more ridiculous requests and quite likely a last minute gazundering. OP doesn't want to risk that. Were the market much slower she may want to risk it. But the indication is that she will sell quickly to someone else who will be a more reasonable buyer.
Alsohuman · 30/07/2020 13:38

@tara66

Although you hate them (as do we all) - they may still be your buyer if they come up with the money quickly enough. There's no point in actually refusing to sell to them is there? Is one actually allowed to refuse to sell to a particular person if all their ducks are in a row on the day?
Of course you can refuse. One vendor refused to sell to my parents once because he didn’t like my mum’s religion.

I wouldn’t sell to them if I was OP, especially with four viewings from other parties in the offing. Chances are she’ll get an asking price offer from buyers who live in the real world.

GinandGingerBeer · 30/07/2020 13:38

Love how people still cba to read updates even though you can filter to OP posts only Confused
Hope you get offers out of saturdays viewings OP. When we sold our last house a woman reported me to the agent for being rude as I wouldn't let her in.
She landed on the doorstep an hour late after I'd reluctantly agreed an evening viewing keeping my two kids under two up so their room was accessible.
She told me she wasn't actually looking, just getting an idea for her son who might be moving to the area in a year.
I'd left work early, cleaned the bloody house from top to bottomAngry

nightroadworkskeepingmeup · 30/07/2020 13:40

@Shewhomustbeobeyed1

Are your Current “potential” buyers from Australia? It sounds like the kind if thing that’s would be requested here
How so?
FelicisNox · 30/07/2020 15:05

If they are this much trouble now I wouldn't trust them to proceed without issues and I certainly wouldn't put it past them to wait until exchange of contract to threaten to pull out unless you drop X amount: this happened to a friend of mine and she had to do it or risk losing her dream house.

Pull out, put your house back on the market

Longwhiskers14 · 30/07/2020 16:09

Why is no one reading the thread properly?! OP put the house back on the market yesterday and already has four viewings lined up for Sat. 🤦‍♀️

ArnoJambonsBike · 30/07/2020 16:17

@Longwhiskers14 The simple answer is that people are arseholes and think they know better than actually reading and finding out the facts.

I believe a survey was done and 52% of respondents were found to be as described above.

Atadaddicted · 30/07/2020 17:55

@ArnoJambonsBike

The simple answer is that people are arseholes and think they know better than actually reading and finding out the facts.

It’s mumsnet. Chewing the fat really. Not like we’re actually friends or family of the OP or a Doctor reading about a patient etc!

Original poster
Teenangels · 30/07/2020 20:42

@tara66
Of course I do not have to sell to anyone I do not want to. It's an invitation to make an offer, which I can or can not accept.

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Gobbycop · 30/07/2020 20:54

I've never heard anything like this.

An electrician chasing out walls to check wiring lol.

I'm sure you've told them to get fucked by now 😂