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to civilly ask you to use your cars less

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mosquitofeast · 28/07/2020 11:16

My last thread was deleted because I was not being "civil" enough, I don't actually think it is a subject there is much room for civility in, but I will try!

My last post was to try and answer some questions about me. Here they are

I think I have answered these.

No I am not a strict vegetarian. I don't buy milk or dairy, but eat it in other peoples houses,

no I don't fly,

foodmiles, well, I take them into consideration, but they are not the only indicator of the environmental impact of food. Tomatoes grown in a heated greenhouse 2 miles away might have more environmental impact than tomatoes grown outside in Spain, and flown in.

I have 2 adopted children, 1 is an adult no longer living at home I currently have 3 foster children, but that is likely to change this week

Yes I have a pet, it came with one of the adopted children.

No I don't smoke

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mbosnz · 28/07/2020 17:47

I do not accept that lack of time is a valid reason, or personal preference, or shopping or weather.

Sadly (or, from my perspective, thankfully), it isn't up to you to determine what constitutes a valid reason for another adult with full capacity to use their personal property in a perfectly lawful manner. I really do rather think, no one gives a flying fig what you think they should or shouldn't do, nor should they, and that, on the whole is what somewhat grinds your gears. Smile

Koennt · 28/07/2020 17:49

I judge anyone who is able bodied and uses a car for journeys of less than two miles unless they're carting something extremely heavy around. However, I wouldn't dream of telling them this because it's none of my business.

mbosnz · 28/07/2020 17:51

Judge away! We all judge other people, we all have our pet hates and peeves. But to think we should expect or even ask others to conform to the way we would prefer them to live their lives on such matters. . . well. . .

mosquitofeast · 28/07/2020 17:51

@Nicknacky

Yes, you are. I would be very surprised if foster caters aren’t warned (or even forbidden) from revealing information online about their care.

Especially if you have trafficked victims in your care.

no I am not, nothing I have said is identifying
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mosquitofeast · 28/07/2020 17:54

@mbosnz

I do not accept that lack of time is a valid reason, or personal preference, or shopping or weather.

Sadly (or, from my perspective, thankfully), it isn't up to you to determine what constitutes a valid reason for another adult with full capacity to use their personal property in a perfectly lawful manner. I really do rather think, no one gives a flying fig what you think they should or shouldn't do, nor should they, and that, on the whole is what somewhat grinds your gears. Smile

my gears are not grinding? at all. I wouldn't be replying if I wasn't happy for people to disagree with me, would I?

But for people who say they have no time, and have convinced themselves that is true, I have given details of how busy my own life is. It is just a cultural attitude, in many cases, that driving is a necessity. In many cases, it jsut isn't, it is a habit

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allfalldown47 · 28/07/2020 17:54

@mosquitofeast
I absolutely will continue to call bullshit about your whole 'tale'

I can't imagine a social worker on the planet, placing such vulnerable children, with a single parent who works full time (and apparently 60+ hrs)

Yes of course single people can be foster carers but not people who have so little spare time.
Presumably a large part of your waking hours are spent walking to and from work etc?

This is getting boring now. Being lied to by a stranger online is frustrating, your story is so far fetched but obviously you can keep telling us it's all true Hmm

AnnaMariaDreams · 28/07/2020 17:54

I’d love to.
Covid 19 means I will be driving rather than taking the train to work because public transport doesn’t feel safe.
I was supposed to go on 3 holidays abroad this year, 1 long haul so I guess that helps.
We’re driving to go on holiday in the Uk instead though.

DeltaFlyer · 28/07/2020 17:54

Yes in yesterday's thread the op stated she didn't want people to drive as it affected her 5 children's asthma. She was asked about her environmental impact of having 5 children and she stated contraception failure.

mosquitofeast · 28/07/2020 17:56

@Koennt

I judge anyone who is able bodied and uses a car for journeys of less than two miles unless they're carting something extremely heavy around. However, I wouldn't dream of telling them this because it's none of my business.
That's fine, but it does affect everyone, so in that sense it is everyone's business. If you don't want to say so, that's fine too. I do want to say so, and I have done. ( but hopefully civilly)
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Nicknacky · 28/07/2020 17:56

It doesn’t matter if you think it isn’t identifiable. As you should know, child trafficking victims recruited into cannabis cultivation’s are at risk from organised crime groups and you are entrusted to keep them safe.

And yet you are online talking about it.

allfalldown47 · 28/07/2020 17:56

And to echo others, if this was true, you would be on extremely dodgy ground.

Your post is incredibly outing. How many people foster, teach a ridiculous amount of hours, are single and walk 10 miles a day?

If you genuinely were fostering trafficked children, you wouldn't even mention it on here, let alone reveal so much other detail!

ZeldalovesLink · 28/07/2020 17:57

My school day is not particularly long, for a teacher, and the school building is not opened specifically for me. It is open, and full of teachers, anyway.

My mother, brother and husband are all teachers. Two of my closest friends from university are teachers. My cousin is a teacher. I occasionally teach extra curricular classes in my field in a private school near to where I live.

I have never known a teacher routinely work an 80 hour week, or require to start work at 5am. It’s simply not credible. You’re actually asking us to believe that you work 16 hours a day, and fit into the remaining 8 hours no less than 10 miles or walking, grocery shopping (on foot), sleeping, socialising, and caring for a pets and children.

You should have done your sums before starting this thread and come up with a more plausible number.

mosquitofeast · 28/07/2020 17:57

@DeltaFlyer

Yes in yesterday's thread the op stated she didn't want people to drive as it affected her 5 children's asthma. She was asked about her environmental impact of having 5 children and she stated contraception failure.
you have got me muddled up with somebody else. Possibly somebody else that was posting on my thread yesterday, I don't know, I didn't get to read it. I have never had a contraception failure. My children don't have asthma. All are fostered or adopted
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MsTSwift · 28/07/2020 17:57

I cycle whenever I can only use car for supermarket and longer journeys or if a particular side of town that is incredibly hilly I am quite fit but can’t take on those hills...

mbosnz · 28/07/2020 17:58

Well, how seriously can you take anyone that can't keep a count of their kids, however fictitious they might be?

Mydogisthebestest · 28/07/2020 17:58

Don’t know one teacher there from 5am.

Mum a teacher. Aunt a teacher. Best friend a teacher. Loads of other teacher friends. Not one. Not one. Starts at 5am every day.

Especially not single parents.

And I can’t see that being allowed for a foster carer

mosquitofeast · 28/07/2020 17:59

I have never known a teacher routinely work an 80 hour week, or require to start work at 5am. It’s simply not credible.

with respect, you don't know what you are talking about then. You have "never known" of something quite common.

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Nicknacky · 28/07/2020 17:59

It was you that posted about your contraception failure. I read it and I always have the OP posts highlighted so it’s easy not to confuse them.

Toomboom · 28/07/2020 18:01

If you live in a rural area with very little buses then you have no choice but to use a car. We are lucky to get one bus an hour through our village, and these stop before 6pm, none at all on a Sunday.
I would never have been able to get my son to his hospital appointments by public transport --- hospital 45 miles each way.
I would never be able to visit my parents on public transport, or it would take me hours to do so. it would be getting a bus from the village [ if running ], getting a train [ once an hour ] to a different station, changing trains into London, then having to get a train out to Cambridge, then get a bus to their village [ if running ]. This would take at least 8 hours. I will drive and it takes me two.

It's great if you live in a city and have everything at your disposal, but a lot of us aren't that lucky.

LastRoloIsMine · 28/07/2020 18:01

you have got me muddled up with somebody else. Possibly somebody else that was posting on my thread yesterday, I don't know, I didn't get to read it. I have never had a contraception failure. My children don't have asthma. All are fostered or adopted

I also saw that thread and you did indeed say contraception failure and you said the pollution was unfair on your dog.

Mydogisthebestest · 28/07/2020 18:02

Well, if you’re a teacher starting at 5am regularly you must be really crap at your job. Because I know not one teacher who does this and I must know at least 50 well enough to know when they’re starting work. (Used to work in a school. None of our teachers started at 5am)

allfalldown47 · 28/07/2020 18:03

If your working hours are true, I strongly suggest you seek help.
If anyone at my school was working anything like those hours, senior management would be offering extra training and finding ways of helping someone who is clearly struggling!

DeltaFlyer · 28/07/2020 18:03

You're the muddled one op

DeltaFlyer · 28/07/2020 18:03

@Nicknacky

It was you that posted about your contraception failure. I read it and I always have the OP posts highlighted so it’s easy not to confuse them.
Same here.
LastRoloIsMine · 28/07/2020 18:04

I live opposite a primary school and an Academy and neither have ever been open at 5am.

The earliest the caretaker opens the gates is 7am. And there is only 1 way in to the car park.