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to civilly ask you to use your cars less

564 replies

mosquitofeast · 28/07/2020 11:16

My last thread was deleted because I was not being "civil" enough, I don't actually think it is a subject there is much room for civility in, but I will try!

My last post was to try and answer some questions about me. Here they are

I think I have answered these.

No I am not a strict vegetarian. I don't buy milk or dairy, but eat it in other peoples houses,

no I don't fly,

foodmiles, well, I take them into consideration, but they are not the only indicator of the environmental impact of food. Tomatoes grown in a heated greenhouse 2 miles away might have more environmental impact than tomatoes grown outside in Spain, and flown in.

I have 2 adopted children, 1 is an adult no longer living at home I currently have 3 foster children, but that is likely to change this week

Yes I have a pet, it came with one of the adopted children.

No I don't smoke

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vodkaredbullgirl · 28/07/2020 15:46

I definately cut down using the car, go to work and back (work nights, work is 8 miles away). I dont go to the supermarket, get deliveries. Not seen my parents for nearly a year, as they live far away and have been shielding. My eldest has not been to work since lockdown, used to drive her there.

K4fkaesque · 28/07/2020 15:48

Just read your first sentence and voted YABU. Moving on.

Nicknacky · 28/07/2020 15:52

This thread has been entertaining!

derxa · 28/07/2020 16:13

Hilarious

cologne4711 · 28/07/2020 16:13

I drive unnecessarily all the time. All the time. Because I'm lazy and it makes long boring chores into shorter boring chores

Honest and relatable.

But maybe a lot of us could make our boring chores easier by cycling instead of driving. And I will mention the Highway Code changes again - make it easier for people to cycle and walk, and make it less convenient to drive, and you will engineer a change in behaviour. It's what the Dutch have done.

Changes to Highway Code are here: www.cyclinguk.org/sites/default/files/document/2020/07/highway_code_10_changes_0.pdf

Only one I don't agree with is "filtering" which I still think is "dangerous undertaking".

gokartdillydilly · 28/07/2020 16:29

As I said to a previous OP on a strangely similar subject, you would do well to get off your arse, get off MN and use the time instead to play with your kids (however many you may or may not have) instead of coming on here, being all goady and preachy.

I will not defend my use of my car because a) it doesn't warrant, and b) you don't deserve, an explanation.

doityourselfnow · 28/07/2020 16:35

@AldiAisleofCrap I think you embarrassed OP off the thread Grin

ZeldalovesLink · 28/07/2020 16:36

why would I feel defensive? What reason has anyone given for driving that would "open my eyes"?

I don’t know why you feel defensive, but you clearly do. I would hazard a guess that it’s because it only took a couple of comments for you to realise that your high horse is a very small Shetland pony, and you’re in no position to be casting judgment on others. Therefore you have had to create a fictionalised account of someone who is sooooo environmentally conscious they they walk five miles to work in the morning at 5am rather than drive a car on an ‘unnecessary journey’.

People have given you plenty of reasons why they drive shorter distances - lack of time, lack of public transport options, lack of safe footpaths, other priorities, etc. You’ve indicated that nothing could open your eyes to the reasons why some people choose to drive. Your myopia is your own problem, not anyone else’s.

AldiAisleofCrap · 28/07/2020 16:38

@AldiAisleofCrap I think you embarrassed OP off the thread grin that’s a shame it’s quite an entertaining thread.

countrygirl99 · 28/07/2020 16:39

Air pollution is a significant risk factor for Covid so I hope all the mask advocates are working out how they can use their cars less or it's a bit hypocritical slagging off anyone who can't wear a mask.

gokartdillydilly · 28/07/2020 16:42

I foster 6 slave chilllldren/drug addicts as well as 5 children under 2.5 and three dogs. I walk 156 miles daily and work 27 hours a day, carry my weekly shop in a 278L rucksack on my back, sometimes I use a granny trolly if I've got extra foster kids on the go.

No, that's not true either Hmm

doityourselfnow · 28/07/2020 16:43

That's all very Nobel @gokartdillydilly but you're not a vegan! Nowhere near on par with the OP!

Desiringonlychild · 28/07/2020 16:45

@countrygirl99 I don't drive and wear a mask. I also live in London, my area has good air but where I work in the City is extremely polluted. Cities tend to be more polluted but people there are less likely to drive (only 1 in 2 households in London own a car). The places with lovely countryside air have terrible public transport so everyone drives.

I see this thread as OP telling everyone to move to the cities and towns.

Leostar · 28/07/2020 16:46

I remember you.

You had a previous thread about walking to work 3hrs a day and doing 16hr days everyday, moaning about how awful being a teacher was, much worse than any lazy NHS worker at the peak of covid

You got called out as BS on that thread as well

gokartdillydilly · 28/07/2020 16:47

@doityourselfnow

I'll have you know, I've just gone vegan. I have luzzed my leather loafers into the lake too, but now need to start my 47 mile walk home SHOELESS.

ShutUpaYourFace · 28/07/2020 16:50

I had a dream. I was married with 2 kids by 25 (this was back in 1985) I would live in a nice big house, near a local school be a SAHM walk kids to school everyday with dog. Shop locally and have all the time in the world to do all things I wanted. Reality = Unmarried (but still with childhood sweetheart) 44, 2 kids and a dog, ok house nothing to shout about but still cost the earth. Work work work, to pay for ok house = No time to walk kids to school (or dog) no time to walk and pick kids up from school. Get Up, school, dog sitter work then from work, school, dog sitter Home = knackered.
I hardly get time to shop and if I biked it I would be 6ft under by now! I need my bloody car so jog on and leave us busy working people alone.

doityourselfnow · 28/07/2020 17:03

@gokartdillydilly you've redeemed yourself!

mosquitofeast · 28/07/2020 17:36

[quote allfalldown47]@mosquitofeast I asked you sometime ago and you didn't reply.

Absolute bullshit then.

No social worker would even consider a single parent, who works up to 80 hours a week (not including the 10 mile walk) to care for such vulnerable children.

How do you get from school, to the various appointments you mentioned your foster children have?
Do you walk from your school, to their schools, onto their appointments and then back to your respective schools afterwards. All on foot, yes?
You must have an incredibly supportive head, especially as they have to pay extra to keep the building open for you most days to accommodate your exceptionally long day.

Reported and please don't start another thread.[/quote]
well, its not my problem if you are unaware of how such systems work, is it. Social services certainly do use single parent teachers as foster carers. You can accept it and learn something, or not, its up to you, not my problem. And no, if you read what I said, you will see I only stopped using public transport during the pandemic. Because I didn't and don't feel safe on the bus. My school day is not particularly long, for a teacher, and the school building is not opened specifically for me. It is open, and full of teachers, anyway.

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Mothermorph · 28/07/2020 17:38

Sunshine124

I'm wondering what sort of childcare regularly opens at 3.30am to enable OP to leave this early? Breakfast club starts at 7.45 in my local area and I think most day nurseries are open from 7.30.

Nicknacky · 28/07/2020 17:38

I will say it again. You are potentially endangering any young person by posting as you are. It’s outrageous if you actually are a foster career.

mosquitofeast · 28/07/2020 17:41

@ZeldalovesLink

why would I feel defensive? What reason has anyone given for driving that would "open my eyes"?

I don’t know why you feel defensive, but you clearly do. I would hazard a guess that it’s because it only took a couple of comments for you to realise that your high horse is a very small Shetland pony, and you’re in no position to be casting judgment on others. Therefore you have had to create a fictionalised account of someone who is sooooo environmentally conscious they they walk five miles to work in the morning at 5am rather than drive a car on an ‘unnecessary journey’.

People have given you plenty of reasons why they drive shorter distances - lack of time, lack of public transport options, lack of safe footpaths, other priorities, etc. You’ve indicated that nothing could open your eyes to the reasons why some people choose to drive. Your myopia is your own problem, not anyone else’s.

I am not defensive at all, and no one has given me any reason for a unnecessary journey. I completely accept that there are sometimes valid reasons, such as safety, disability, etc. I do not accept that lack of time is a valid reason, or personal preference, or shopping or weather. Some people have trapped themselves into needing to rely on a car, because they have set their lives up that way. I accept it is difficult to unravel if you have done that. On the other hand any one of you could have a vertigo attack and lose your license tomorrow, so sometimes people do in fact have to change pretty fast!
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mosquitofeast · 28/07/2020 17:42

@Mothermorph

Sunshine124

I'm wondering what sort of childcare regularly opens at 3.30am to enable OP to leave this early? Breakfast club starts at 7.45 in my local area and I think most day nurseries are open from 7.30.

I don't go in that early if I have children staying with me. Obviously. I just have to work more at night or other times to keep up
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mosquitofeast · 28/07/2020 17:43

@Nicknacky

I will say it again. You are potentially endangering any young person by posting as you are. It’s outrageous if you actually are a foster career.
no I am not endangering anyone. Of course, I wouldn't do that. No one can identify me or my children from this,
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mosquitofeast · 28/07/2020 17:44

@Leostar

I remember you.

You had a previous thread about walking to work 3hrs a day and doing 16hr days everyday, moaning about how awful being a teacher was, much worse than any lazy NHS worker at the peak of covid

You got called out as BS on that thread as well

You have got me muddled up with someone else
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Nicknacky · 28/07/2020 17:45

Yes, you are. I would be very surprised if foster caters aren’t warned (or even forbidden) from revealing information online about their care.

Especially if you have trafficked victims in your care.