To think the monarchy will end with the death of Queen Elizabeth 2

[Gingertea2020]

As an Aussie am curious to know if British monarchy can really prevail beyond life of Queen.

Recently there has been the biography of Megxit and details, intricate, of the fall out between the two Princes and their wives.

Added to this there is the Prince Andrew saga.

With all that is happening in world, will it really continue ?

I can’t imagine a Prince Charles.

I genuinely wonder why the British bother with it all.

The Spanish Royal family don’t have much inherited wealth.

@Gingertea2020

Can’t imagine a Prince Charles as King.

Plus I really feel for the women of the royal family.

It seems no lessons have been learned since Princess Di

The pressures are enormous. That both Duchesses are under scrutiny, and putting out fires while raising children seems untenable.

It is hard to imagine anyone else ruling our country as the current Queen has ruled the country for as long as most of the population can remember.

And with Charles now in his 70s he will be much older than any other monarch who has ascended the throne.

I supported Meghan at the start and thought here we go an indep woman who has made her own money etc
I was also incredibly supportive and a big fan. Until I saw her swanning around like a celeb and having ridiculously expensive baby showers. Inviting celebs to her wedding instead of family. Making ridiculous demands and upsetting the staff. Behaving disgracefully towards the rest of the RF. Moaning about the restrictions of being a senior royal. Lecturing people on flights etc whilst flying around in private jets. She was just a complete diva and not behaving like royalty. It was clear she had no interest in humility or service, she just wanted to be an A list celeb. So I, like many others, totally went off her and was glad when she left.

JayAlfredPrufrock

They will going forward if the 75million that the current King's father procured passes down the line.

Hmm, wonder who put that idea in his head? Funny that he’s been happy for the last 30-something years and just suddenly decided to quit now.

Who put the idea in his head...? I wasn't aware that 35 year old men weren't capable of making their own decisions.

Harry has made various comments over the last several years about being unhappy, about not wanting to be a royal, and about walking away. If getting married and starting a family helped him to sharpen up those ideas about getting out then good for him.

Wish you were right OP but the Brits are a nation of forelock-tuggers and the show will go on, at vast expense...

Sadly, I agree.

The loose cannon that Harry gradually turned into has gone off with a dull splutter and buggered off. Fair enough.

But the thing i really can't stomach is the idea of queen bloody camilla. I mean really? Nothing makes a bigger mockery of the monarchy than this.

They're all much of a muchness to me. Well, Anne comes off as quite sensible and as far as I know only one of them went on telly claiming not to sweat, but that aside none seem particularly more or less to be making a mockery than any of the others. With that in mind, I'm wondering what is it about Camilla that does it?

Nah they’ll keep going for bloody ever no doubt

Because I’m a geek, I’m thinking about the logistics (is that the right word?) ... anthem, stamps, bank notes, post boxes... (not that I imagine many new ones will be made) but as he will be Charles III, they will say CR or CiiiR?

I do love that his current title in full is...

His Royal Highness Prince Charles Philip Arthur George, Prince of Wales, KG, KT, GCB, OM, AK, QSO, CC, PC, ADC, Earl of Chester, Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Carrick, Baron of Renfrew, Lord of the Isles and Prince and Great Steward of Scotland ... Breaker of chains etc. Very Daenerys Targaryen

Prince Charles has actually hinted in the past that he'll take the regnal name of King George. Coz of the beheading etc.

Oh really, interesting... that would be George VII?

Current stamps, banknotes and postboxes will all stay in circulation/in situ. There is sometimes a misapprehension that a change of monarch will mean replacing everything, but that's only when you're trying to deny the previous monarch even existed for ideological purposes. There were still Royal Mail postboxes out there with George's royal initialisms into the 21st century, and if we hadn't had decimalisation, we would still see coins with George on, too. Currently we have coins with three (unless it's more) different portraits of Elizabeth in circulation.

Charles will have to sit for portraits in the first month of his reign (if they haven't already got them all ready) and the production line for coins and banknotes will be altered. They seem to change the tails side for the 50pence coin every other week, so they're well practiced at that.

Op, as an Aussie, May well see the end of the Monarchy in her lifetime (in Australia) I can’t imagine we will get rid of it here but I can easily imagine Australia having a referendum & deciding they don’t want Charles as their head of state.
The vote in 1999 was quite close (about 55% keep v 45% get rid if I remember rightly) Those numbers could easily swing as Charles is nowhere near as popular as the Queen

The thing i really can't stomach is the idea of queen bloody camilla. I mean really? Nothing makes a bigger mockery of the monarchy than this

I happen to agree, but what really fascinates me is this story folk seem to have swallowed about Charles "slimming down the monarchy"
Granted Harry's gone and Andrew's in the doo-doos, but that was hardly Charles's choice - so what is he being credited for?

And even if he invites fewer family onto the balcony in future to incease the focus on himself is he going to cut his ridiculous number of staff? Give up some of his income or pay more tax? Start using scheduled airlines more, or mainline trains instead of the royal coach?

As if ...

Current stamps, banknotes and postboxes will all stay in circulation/in situ. There is sometimes a misapprehension that a change of monarch will mean replacing everything, but that's only when you're trying to deny the previous monarch even existed for ideological purposes

Oh I know, I meant any new ones, so new notes or stamps made and any new post boxes (if they do make any new ones?)

I wonder if Camilla would be Princess rather than Queen when Charles is King, like Prince Phillip isn’t King? I get that was for hierarchy reasons but it might appease the public who hate the idea of Queen Camilla, like they never call her Princess of Wales even though technically she is

I think the plan is Princess Consort.

Current stamps, banknotes and postboxes will all stay in circulation/in situ. There is sometimes a misapprehension that a change of monarch will mean replacing everything, but that's only when you're trying to deny the previous monarch even existed for ideological purposes. When I was a child, pre-decimalisation, one of the joys of coin-collecting was you could find George VI and V, Edward VII and Victoria coins in your small change - and- if you were really lucky Edward VIII. And my home town still has a postbox marked VR

Currently we have coins with three (unless it's more) different portraits of Elizabeth in circulation

It's actually four, though some of the decimal coins were in circulation early. Here they all are: www.royalmint.com/discover/royalty/the-royal-portraits/

PotholeParadise Charles actually had a "coin portrait" done for a commemorative one for his 70th birthday - I think it was said at the time that this would be used on all the usual coinage when the time comes

Charles can't slim down the monarchy for long seeing as William is having children as if he needs spare kids to create alliances with neighbouring countries.

Maybe he thinks he will. Is this William's form of Brexit preparation?

Alsohuman

No of course it isn’t, in answer to your last comment, although that’s what you initially implied.

I didn't imply anything, but it's not a problem that you "initially" didn't get it at all, it can happen to all of us

Charles slimming down the monarchy doesn't mean his kids having fewer kids. It just means only certain people in the lineage will receive Crown funding.

So the head of the Crown, the immediate heir, and the next in line (say). Charles would have him, William and possible George funded. The Princess Royal position is currently filled by Anne who does a fabulous job of representing the Roayl Family so it's possible that Charlotte may be funded and raised to fill this role eventually. However none of her children, nor Louis and his children would be.

Prince Philip isn’t king because then he would technically outrank the Queen. Charles wouldn’t be in that situation with Camilla. Though I think she’s sensitive to public opinion and would style herself as Princess to avoid any public backlash.

Imagine it though. Fifty years time, William is on the throne and at least one of his children will have been designated the 'royal wastrel'. If MN is still around, we will be arguing on how much tax payers' money came from the King for the Wastrel's holidays!