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I have unfollowed them this morning. I know why would they care!?! Why do I need to tell Mumsnet? Why?? But I just want to grumble about some things!

They have seemingly made a good life financially from their YouTube blogs. I presume it's from them. I used to like the odd picture. Watch the odd video. In recent weeks they have done some bits and bobs to the garden. Absolutely fine. They put artificial grass down. Got the kids a new play park. Then fast forward a couple of months they have got a mini bar and a hot tub. Started rolling my eyes at them. Especially because they had someone trying to break in not long ago. But they still continue to tell the world what they own.
Last week the kids got a large rabbit hutch and some new pets. I saw it but scrolled past and didn't watch the video. Then the next day I was watching my Instagram stories and sue had wrote on a video that she wanted to thank everyone for their kind words and "Ellie" was feeling much better.

I read some comments (being nosey) as to what had happened to her daughter. It turned out the public had written some unkind things about the rabbits and their diet. This had led to one of her younger teens being upset. But it's ok!! Because sue sat with her and read the nice comments out and she felt happier!

what was going through my head whilst reading these comments was.....maybe it's time you stopped exposing your children to the public! Why is she allowing the public to make her kids sad? For the sake of freebies, attention and the feeling of being important? Because yes she's had 22 children and it was an interesting watch. But somehow she's completely lost her senses. She's turned her children into a TV show! She films all their birthdays. She shows everyone every single item they own. Toys/clothes etc. She's constantly accepting gifts from strangers!

I know I've followed them and for a long time I had no issue with it. But these kids are not celebrities. They have had their whole lives given to the world to judge. They are not going to live an adult life of luxury. The money will die off eventually. Then all these kids will be left with is the embarrassing reminders that everyone was watching their every move from the day they were born. They are now having to deal with abuse from the public and sue still can't stop because she loves that she can now get her hands on expensive items. I really hope they stop soon for those kids.

As a mum myself I just don't understand how she can do it! Why can't those poor children have anything without her telling the world

I await a hundred posts saying you are too invested in this. But it really was unnecessary stress for her kids. I also don't think sue considers the risks of showing people what you own. Let's hope people don't start attempting to break in more often! That would have been enough for me to stop.

Her and her husband are awful.

Yeah, it’s fucking weird to pimp your kids out like that. But then other weirdos love to watch it, don’t they? 😂

Her husband effectively groomed her.

She's obsessed with babies and as soon as they are out of the newborn stage, immediately wants to get pregnant again. I do not believe that her or her husband manage to spend effective 1-2-1 time with each of their children.

Likewise I do not believe that the pie shop generates sufficient income to support that size of family without state assistance. Not that it bothers me, but they are the ones that have made a huge deal over the years of being financially independent. That shop must be selling some magical pies.

She needs to be very careful. She's inviting allsorts of people into their lives. She has turned completely materialistic. People with 2 children can't afford the lifestyle they have. They've got money for everything now it seems. But it's not enough to protect those children. They are not the Beckham's. Those kids won't be multi millionaires when they are older. They will most likely be in a standard job. She really needs to think of their mental health. It does appear the girls perform more than the boys.

Completely agree with you. My kids are not on social media at all so I always have a negative reaction to people who post absolutely everything about their children online.

I watched the programmes on tv and found them interesting to a degree but I certainly wouldnt have followed a daily/weekly blog.
I agree the pie shop cant make enough money to keep 20-odd people esp as they say the only benefit they get is CB so £50k or less for that many people plus animals doesnt add up.
I'm just surprised how many people would want to watch daily/weekly vlogs.

Yeah. My page is private so only my family and close friends can see pictures. I don't think sue realises the dangers.

I think it's the first time in her life she's not just been a mum and had something else to do in life. Getting loads of messages and fuss from the public is going to give her a buzz. Being able to afford stuff she couldn't give her older kids. But now you can see she's obsessed with possesions. She's teaching her kids to be materialistic too. So thatl be them in debt when they are older and the blogs don't pay off.

I always find it weird when people send gifts for one of her kids. What is that all about?

...and that their kids are ok with it.i have fb and put family pics on occassionally but the older my DC get, the less they permit me to put on sm. They certainly wouldnt want to be filmed every week.

I find the whole situation grotesque frankly but then again, they lost me at "Sue was 13".

Agree with her not using kids for SM income but also think no one should.

I don't follow anyone like that.

Adults get the choice. personally I think because children can't have SM until 13 no adult should be able to profit from using a child under 13 on SM.

@Tappering Magic pies I agree.

Yep. It has taken me a while because I don't focus on them all the time. But lately I just think every video she posts is about luxury items. Expensive birthday presents and the next big spend.

It just bothered me to realise the young lass had been subjected to the public's opinions. Really sue should have realised the public didn't need to get involved with a rabbit hutch.

Right from being little we were taught about strangers and not telling people what you have in your house. I hope it never happens but when you live how they do. They tell people when they are on holiday and everything. It's awful really.

YANBU. Their whole family set up is just so unhealthy. Noel gives me the creeps.

That said the situation might work itself out, Sue is what - 45? She wont biologically be able to have kids for too much longer, and once the youngest is out of the baby stage and a few more have flown the nest, nobody will be interested in them any more. I reckon there will be a pregnancy announcement by Christmas though.

I've never watched any of their videos but I have seen the tv programmes. My FB is very private and my children have never had their photos on social media until they have been old enough to decide for themselves, one has decided to use it, the other has said no photos ever, I don't even mention their name. I suppose Sue needs validation, either that or it brings the money in but those children should not be cash cows.

The "stuff" won't be bought - an awful lot will be free and given to them for publicity for the shop/manufacturer giving it.

I’m amazed that Sue and her husband look so well to say they have had 22 kids. I’m amazed that she has managed to conceive and carry all those kids without any major complications to herself or the baby. I like the family from the episodes I’ve watched.
I think they both definitely have some mental health as it’s not normal to have all those kids...... what made me sad is some time ago one of the daughters left for Uni and then & Ended up moving back home to help out with the family. I mean I would love to hear from the older kids in 10 years time what they thought of their “family life” in reality.
Parents can be selfish and I don’t believe just because your the one procreating this gives you the right to inflict child after child on your other kids!

Yeah but I think her kids under 10 are the money makers unfortunately. Then the teenaged girls like being filmed it seems. But they are young and nieve. They will probably regret it when they are older. But also when these kids leave home they are not going to be able to live in a huge home with a hot tub unless they work hard. So I can just see them struggling when they go into the real world. I think once the babies at school they won't be able to do much anymore.

I wonder if they realise when they are older that their mum was doing it for her own reasons and not with their best interests at heart.

If I had such a large family my days would be so hectic. I wonder how she even finds time to film everything. My two won't shut up when I ring my mum for ten minutes.

It's very sad. I have only really thought about it recently and it's just unfair. I have always thought does she give those young boys much time. The ones around 7-9 years. It does seem very much focused around the girls.

@Bananabread8

I agree totally. I was the same. Interested in what they do. How they get out the door for school. How they food shop. Where they keep all the toys and how they cope with the washing. But back then they were having to manage! They were normal like everyone else. I also think energy wise wow how does she do it. I have been exhausted this year having two kids. So I would love abit of her energy to keep going.

Sue's well and truly forgotten herself in my view. She's obsessed with this new lifestyle . Freebies and Holidays. Enough money to buy luxury items for the garden. That wasn't how it was for her 5-6 years ago when she went on Tele. They had to budget. Now she's showing off every week about something new.

Her fifth? Grandchild is due soon. Surely it's time to stop having kids.

I would love to hear from the kids about what life is really like. I am from a big family and hated it and would never put my kids through that so will be interesting to see how many children the kids have.

I've only heard of these people from reading about them on Mumsnet. They sound awful. But the problem is that everyone who has watched their YouTube or whatever has contributed to the situation, it's a vicious circle. The parents have exposed their children and the people watching have given them the incentive to expose their children. And on it goes.

They're social media "influencers" so will be getting freebies on a daily basis. Just like the slebs who are given expensive clothes to wear and travel writers who don't have to pay for the top hotel suites they write about.

@isabellerossignol

I've only heard of these people from reading about them on Mumsnet. They sound awful. But the problem is that everyone who has watched their YouTube or whatever has contributed to the situation, it's a vicious circle. The parents have exposed their children and the people watching have given them the incentive to expose their children. And on it goes.

They do come across as nice to be honest that’s the thing. I’m not sure who is the ring leader of wanting the babies the most I’m assuming it’s sue as it’s her body. I just think some kind of therapy is urgently needed. Surely the Drs have warned her.

Yeah that's the trouble. I've also contributed to it in that respect. But I followed them at a time when I thought she would post the odd thing when it was Interesting. I also liked Noel's cooking vlogs. So that was adult based. I copied some of his recipes. But then they got very money money money and less focused on the adult side of things. Now it's just ridiculous. They can afford far too much now. I mean we would all love a chance to give our kids holidays and hot tubs and things. But not at their expense.

It's like she needs educating about safety.

She's been a mum since 1989 and that's the year I was born. So yeah she's been a mum to young children for 31 years. That's a long time to stay in the shattered, nappy and toddler stage. I don't think she will have anymore now. But her kids will probably stay home and have babies. I presume the one that's pregnant now will stay with them. That's another thing. The one that is pregnant is still like a child herself. She's late teens I believe. She's pregnant. She's living at home. She's surrounded by her siblings. Wouldn't it be healthier for her to be independent and raise her baby in a home that's just for them. That kid will be surrounded by kids that are it's aunties and uncles. Thats a really weird way to grow up isn't it.
How that girl will be a mum properly when she's still living home with her own family I don't know. Just little things like having her own space and time to bond. Being able to feed and change the baby and then have peace for herself. She will still be under their roof with their rules. Will she be washing her own babies clothes and things? Or will sue do all that for her. It's a weird situation. I know many do live at home with their first baby. But they don't usually live with 20 other kids.

There’s a family called the Inghams who are equally as bad 🙄 Both grind my gears.

I agree with you. But not just with her. But all of them! It doesn't matter whether you have 1 or 22 children, they shouldn't be plastered all over a public social media to be judged.
It is the same with Danny from Mcfly and Gerogia (more so her) they use Cooper to get freebies and likes etc... and plaster him all over the Internet.
Sacconejolys. And don't even get me started with 8 passengers. They are the worst!

I respect people like Ore Oduba who has a little boy and they don't show his face at all. Respecting his rights to privacy.